Oct 29 11:30:07 * Ohmu (n=spud@59.161.149.142) has joined #vbox Oct 29 11:30:26 * __coredump__ has quit (Remote closed the connection) Oct 29 11:30:26 oh :) Oct 29 11:30:28 Hi all, I've just installed VirtualBox and downloaded the iso for XP. Can anyone help me thru getting a virtual XP running on my Ubuntu desktop? I'm a little stupid, but keen to learn. Oct 29 11:31:40 Ohmu: just checking... I assume you have an MSDN account or something to download an XP iso? Oct 29 11:32:33 JshWright: I think he's downloade the ISO already Oct 29 11:32:50 JshWright, I torrented it. I have the serial from my XP CD but the CD is b0rked. Oct 29 11:33:20 these days you have so many "cool" apps (once executed, the mess up os) I trust the host but if vbox has access to host (through flaws like blaster worm type) it can be little complicated for users... michael Oct 29 11:35:04 Do I need to create a partition with the ISO in it, or just a folder? And where will it put the virtual XP? Do I have to specify a partition for that? Or a folder? Oct 29 11:35:50 Ohmu: create a new VM (just follow the wizard), then in the setting for that VM you can attach the iso as the VM's cd drive Oct 29 11:36:11 start the VM and go through the install as normal Oct 29 11:36:16 Ohmu: there's a user manual as well which explains these quite a bit. Oct 29 11:36:41 Ohmu: should be installed already with VBox, if not u can download it from virtualbox.org download section Oct 29 11:37:21 Ohmu: yes the user manual is a very good start... very good and loads of valuable information Oct 29 12:00:18 guys, I've followed the wizard, and when it finished, I set up all the other things like 'shared folder' in the options. But now it says my VirtualXP is 'Powered Off' and right-click-restart is greyed out. and on the right panel, 'cd/dvd rom' is 'not mounted' even tho I specifically set it to the xp.iso.... whats going on? Oct 29 12:03:24 Ohmu: have you started the VM? Oct 29 12:04:06 JshWright, I don't seem able to. its greyed out. Oct 29 12:05:06 try double clicking on the vm Oct 29 12:05:37 no luck. and everything but 'show log' is greyed. and the logfile doesnt exist. Oct 29 12:07:11 oh. just had to restart it. Oct 29 12:13:42 I'm getting this error: VirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic.. I'm not sure to install modules-generic or modules-386 or something else ... ? Oct 29 12:13:50 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox#USB Oct 29 12:15:39 Ohmu: You run Ubuntu? Please install the dkms package. After that, please do '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root. Oct 29 12:19:39 fmehnert, cool. what on earth does that do? it is made by dell??? Oct 29 12:19:42 it'll still throw a warning when you start VBox Oct 29 12:20:19 Ohmu: The DKMS package is indeed something what Dell proposed. This package keeps track of kernel changes and will recompile kernel modules on demand. Oct 29 12:21:40 fmehnert, did you mean /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start ? Oct 29 12:22:09 I meant the dkms package. /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is part of the VirtualBox package. Oct 29 12:22:11 fmehnert, so when a new ver of the linux kernel comes out, it auto-grabs it and recompiles my kernel? Oct 29 12:22:49 Ohmu: No. If a new kernel is installed on your system, the vboxdrv module will be adapted to that new kernel. Oct 29 12:24:57 fmehnert, oh. so DKMS makes sure bvoxdrv gets recompiled whenever the kernels updated, and vboxdrv is the 'engine' that makes the linuxkernel act as the VM ...? Oct 29 12:25:43 Yes, except that vboxdrv is not the engine but only a small part of the VMM which is necessary to access some functions of the kernel to make the VMM work. Oct 29 12:26:37 so its the interface between the VMM and the kernel? Oct 29 12:27:16 (if you don't mind me 'parity checking' to make sure I understand...) Oct 29 12:27:40 Ohmu: that's correct Oct 29 12:28:40 great! and it looks like /etc/init.d/vboxdrv is a daemon (everything is a daeomn in init.d??) ... so I need to start it every time I load VirtualBox? Oct 29 12:29:08 and it'll sit in the background waiting for kernel-updates. Oct 29 12:29:12 it start start when you boot Oct 29 12:29:24 why doesn't VirtualBox simply check for kernel updates every time it's executed? Oct 29 12:29:32 why is a daemon needed? Oct 29 12:29:37 with dkms, it does Oct 29 12:30:04 it's not a "daemon", /etc/init.d/vboxdrv ensures the kernel module is loaded Oct 29 12:30:35 "(12:28:49 PM) JshWright: it start start when you boot" <-- "start start"? wtf? Oct 29 12:31:35 Actually dkms is the proper abstraction to keep track of kernel upgrades on different Linux distributions. Oct 29 12:32:41 why is vboxdrv loading on boot, and not when I start VirtualBox? Isn't this inefficient? Oct 29 12:33:11 Ohmu: Keep a Linux Journal handy to read while your machine boots. Oct 29 12:33:30 ggeller, :) Oct 29 12:33:36 ggeller, I have a guitar Oct 29 12:33:53 Ohmu: That's a permission problem. Oct 29 12:34:26 fmehnert, OH! only root can load kernel modules! Oct 29 12:35:52 spud@spud-laptop:/dev$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv start Oct 29 12:35:53 * Starting VirtualBox kernel module vboxdrv Oct 29 12:35:53 * No suitable module for running kernel found. Oct 29 12:36:08 (hope 3 lines is ok..) Oct 29 12:36:20 Ohmu: Please do 'setup', not 'start' Oct 29 12:36:46 (You have to do this once, dkms will do something like this on a kernel update) Oct 29 12:36:51 spud@spud-laptop:/dev$ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup Oct 29 12:36:52 * Usage: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv {start|stop|restart|status} Oct 29 12:36:59 I got that, so I tried start instead Oct 29 12:37:16 Ohmu: Oh, in that case you have the OSE version. So you have to install the proper ose-modules. Oct 29 12:37:39 ? OSE version ? Oct 29 12:37:44 * Ohmu heads off to package-manager Oct 29 12:37:54 Which distro is that? Oct 29 12:38:07 fmehnert, Ubuntu Oct 29 12:38:22 And what does 'dpkg -s virtualbox' say? Oct 29 12:38:55 spud@spud-laptop:/dev$ dpkg -s virtualbox Oct 29 12:38:56 Package `virtualbox' is not installed and no info is available. Oct 29 12:39:11 virtualbox-ose? Oct 29 12:39:17 And what does 'dpkg -s virtualbox-ose' say? Oct 29 12:39:33 same Oct 29 12:39:59 huh? I just *ran* virtualbox??? Oct 29 12:40:20 If you run it, what does the about dialog say about the version? Oct 29 12:40:53 says its 1.56 OSE Oct 29 12:41:18 OSE == open source edition I guess Oct 29 12:41:31 Good. There you are: You have to install the proper ose modules according to your kernel. Oct 29 12:44:39 do I do i386 or generic? Oct 29 12:45:19 I get the modules *and* the guest modules? Oct 29 12:45:31 no, the guest modules are for VBox guests Oct 29 12:45:54 Is my virtualXP a Vbox guest? Oct 29 12:46:05 yes Oct 29 12:46:09 k Oct 29 12:46:19 you need to install the virtualbox guest additions in the guest Oct 29 12:47:34 so that'll be a windows binary... Oct 29 12:47:46 yes Oct 29 12:48:44 ok for mykernel ver, I've got 386,generic,openvz,rt,server,virtual. Do I need all these packages? Oct 29 12:48:59 no, what's your uname -r Oct 29 12:50:02 2.6.24-21-generic Oct 29 12:50:07 I did that already Oct 29 12:50:12 then you'll need the generic ose module Oct 29 12:50:34 why not i386? Oct 29 12:50:48 because you're using the generic kernel Oct 29 12:51:02 the module obviously needs to match the kernel Oct 29 12:51:06 * Ohmu slaps self with a fish Oct 29 12:51:13 ok Oct 29 12:57:10 ok got a new error...: The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect.. Oct 29 12:57:40 where's the vboxusers groups thing? Oct 29 12:57:44 sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a `whoami` Oct 29 12:57:55 copy and paste that command to add yourself to the vboxusers group Oct 29 12:58:07 you'll need to log out and log back in for it to take effect Oct 29 12:58:39 * lelikvb has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) Oct 29 12:59:22 ok. is this like .... theres different groups on my linux - and vbox has created another? I'm not aware of groups Oct 29 12:59:39 currect Oct 29 12:59:44 s/u/o/ Oct 29 13:00:06 * qbmaniac (n=miffe@207.248.42.1) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:00:49 s/u/o/? superuser / user / other? Oct 29 13:01:15 how do I see all the groups? Oct 29 13:01:41 heh, no... "substitute 'o' for 'u' in my last message" Oct 29 13:01:49 cat /etc/group Oct 29 13:01:54 'gropus' doesn't contain Oct 29 13:01:57 ok hehe Oct 29 13:01:57 thx Oct 29 13:03:52 * sidmori_ (n=sidmori@75.149.75.137) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:04:17 * michael-vb (n=michael@nat/sun/x-721e51cd5fc2bc99) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:04:17 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to michael-vb Oct 29 13:04:55 * Vsugi has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Oct 29 13:07:15 * balboah has quit () Oct 29 13:07:17 * Ohmu logs out Oct 29 13:07:27 * hwilde (n=hwilde@64.58.242.11) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:07:30 * poetzsch_ has quit ("Leaving") Oct 29 13:08:13 * ringo999 has quit ("leaving") Oct 29 13:08:56 hello vbox Oct 29 13:09:27 I have a computer with two harddrives. on hd1 there is windows vista 64bit. on hd2 there is ubuntu 8.04 64bit Oct 29 13:09:29 * Ohmu_ (n=spud@59.161.152.133) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:09:40 what is the best/easiest/fastest way to vbox these so I can go into Ubuntu, and then virtualize Vista Oct 29 13:10:54 * codehai (n=codehai@cable-81-173-134-244.netcologne.de) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:11:05 * lelikvb (n=Lelik@nat/sun/x-c7d51a05d96c8a8c) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:11:05 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to lelikvb Oct 29 13:11:44 anybody out there ? Oct 29 13:12:02 OMG it's working! Oct 29 13:14:06 thankyou ppl so much for the patient guidance! Oct 29 13:15:31 this software is mindblowing Oct 29 13:16:02 have to go to bed now. dang. tomorrow XP! Oct 29 13:16:05 again thanks Oct 29 13:16:07 nn Oct 29 13:16:19 * Ohmu_ has quit ("There is no technical problem that cannot be resolved with a sufficiently large hammer") Oct 29 13:17:12 * michael-vb|away has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) Oct 29 13:19:58 * ringo999 (n=ringo999@c-ce1670d5.018-2-6d6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #vbox Oct 29 13:20:24 * michael-vb is now known as michael-vb|away Oct 29 13:21:19 hi, using macosx host, debian guest: does seamless mode work ? X -version gives me 7.1.1, yet seamless mode is not available...Any idea? 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