(04:40:58) tinypoodle: :-$
(04:41:18) tspier2: tinypoodle, that reminds me of a Linux prompt.
(04:41:33) tspier2: troy@slackware:-$
(04:41:49) tinypoodle: oh
(04:42:05) tinypoodle: in my client is emoticon
(04:42:16) tspier2: Oh
(04:42:18) silasj: oh
(04:42:47) tinypoodle: tspier2: and i dont deal with linux prompts like this
(04:43:08) Twey: Lol
(04:43:15) ***tspier2 pokes Twey
(04:43:18) tspier2: Where have you been?
(04:43:18) tspier2: :)
(04:43:20) tinypoodle: tspier2: mine always lke this: sh-3.00#
(04:43:29) Twey: Trying to sleep :-)
(04:43:33) Twey: Heh
(04:43:35) tinypoodle: no $, but #
(04:43:36) Twey: Mine's very purty.
(04:43:41) Twey: Little ASCII roses and things
(04:43:44) tspier2: Ah, I have one like :-$ and one with $
(04:44:01) Twey: tinypoodle: I hope that by that you're saying that you've set your user prompt to display #.
(04:44:02) tinypoodle: root alays gets #
(04:44:16) Twey: 'Cause if you're root all the time, you need a serious course in computer security. :-)
(04:44:16) tinypoodle: no, always root
(04:44:26) tspier2: tinypoodle needs Linux help.
(04:44:27) ***Twey tuts.
(04:44:28) tinypoodle: Twey: huh?
(04:44:29) Twey: Aye.
(04:44:38) tspier2: You never run as root, unless you need to do something involving the system itself.
(04:44:46) tspier2: I only run as root when I want to install software or change a config file.
(04:44:46) Twey: To do otherwise is a security risk.
(04:44:57) tinypoodle: Twey: i run a single user sys
(04:45:01) Twey: That's what makes *nix different from Windows.
(04:45:05) Twey: Doesn't matter
(04:45:24) tinypoodle: Twey: you dont get it
(04:45:27) Twey: Any program run as root can compromise the whole system if cracked
(04:45:43) tinypoodle: Twey: no other user possible than root
(04:45:57) Twey: You mean you actually run in single-user mode?
(04:46:02) tinypoodle: no
(04:46:11) Twey: Well then.
(04:46:14) tinypoodle: i dont *run*
(04:46:30) tinypoodle: system is designed to have only root
(04:46:36) tinypoodle: by design
(04:46:37) ***Twey shudders.
(04:46:38) Twey: That's like
(04:46:39) Twey: DOS.
(04:46:42) tspier2: Then you shouldn't use it.
(04:46:44) tspier2: That's just asinine.
(04:46:52) tinypoodle: huh?
(04:46:55) Twey: The only time that would be acceptable
(04:46:59) tspier2: Server
(04:47:03) tinypoodle: spoiled kids...
(04:47:05) Twey: Is if the machine was totally cut off from the outside world
(04:47:13) Twey: No internet, LAN, nothing.
(04:47:20) Twey: Then it'd be OK to do that.
(04:47:24) tinypoodle: Twey: thats windows
(04:47:35) Twey: You might as well be running Windows
(04:47:37) Twey: Security-wise
(04:47:42) tspier2: Seriously.
(04:47:51) tinypoodle: Twey: a lot of non bloated systems are like that
(04:48:05) Twey: Not ones whose owners have any sense.
(04:48:19) tinypoodle: pffff....
(04:48:21) Twey: Go on, go into #gentoo and ask why you shouldn't run everything as root.  I dare you.
(04:48:32) tinypoodle: hey
(04:48:39) tinypoodle: no choice !!!
(04:48:58) Twey: tinypoodle: Is it someone else's machine?
(04:49:05) tinypoodle: why ?
(04:49:08) tinypoodle: nope
(04:49:19) Twey: Because that's the only reason you couldn't set it up to run properly.
(04:49:29) tspier2: tinypoodle, get a real system.
(04:49:34) tinypoodle: set it up ?
(04:49:47) tinypoodle: it is designed so
(04:49:52) Twey: The way you're talking makes it sound as though the distro is built to only allow use by root
(04:50:03) tinypoodle: now you got it 
(04:50:05) Twey: In which case you need a new distro.
(04:50:07) tinypoodle: finally
(04:50:21) tinypoodle: many distros are like that
(04:50:32) Twey: What distro is it?
(04:50:36) tinypoodle: puppy
(04:50:50) Twey: That's a LiveCD distro...
(04:50:52) tspier2: Puppy Linux sucks.
(04:50:59) tspier2: Get Ubuntu, and learn Linux.
(04:51:03) tspier2: Then try Slackware or Gentoo
(04:51:12) tinypoodle: regular install
(04:51:14) ***Twey agrees.
(04:51:19) tinypoodle: ext2
(04:51:23) tinypoodle: TROLLS
(04:51:30) Twey: tinypoodle, no.  Not good at all.
(04:52:07) Twey: Look
(04:52:10) Twey: Take me up.
(04:52:13) Twey: Go into #gentoo.
(04:52:19) Twey: Tell them this.
(04:52:25) Twey: Then call us trolls.
(04:52:29) tinypoodle: (04:50:59) tspier2: Get Ubuntu, and learn Linux. <--- right, from all the distros, ubuntu is the only one i am unable to learn
(04:52:43) tspier2: Wtf is a troll?
(04:52:45) Twey: It was only an example.
(04:52:51) Twey: He meant a user-friendly distro in general.
(04:53:12) Twey: tspier2: Big mountain demon.
(04:53:17) ***silasj awat brb
(04:53:18) Twey: With sharp teeth.
(04:53:23) tspier2: I got that, but what is a troll online?
(04:53:26) Twey: Lol
(04:53:29) tinypoodle: (04:51:03) tspier2: Then try Slackware or Gentoo <--- i have taken slack apart and put it together again
(04:53:36) Twey: Someone who deliberately starts arguments
(04:53:39) tspier2: And yet you use Puppy linux?!?!
(04:53:41) tspier2: Ah
(04:53:46) Twey: ...
(04:54:07) Twey: "I used to be a bank manager."
(04:54:16) Twey: "So I'm going to give out my credit card details to everyone."
(04:54:24) Twey: "And I'm right doing it."
(04:54:55) tinypoodle: puppy i am following on and off since 3 years and since 10 months is my primary working sys
(04:55:27) Twey: It's not meant to be a primary working system.
(04:55:40) tinypoodle: yes it is
(04:55:54) tinypoodle: Twey: what makes you say that ?
(04:56:35) tspier2: I've used Puppy. It is meant for getting back into a system on a hdd, once it fails.
(04:56:48) tinypoodle: Twey: i know professional programmers which use puppy as primary system in privat
(04:56:54) tspier2: I've used Linux for only two years, and I know better than to run as root all the time, and use a live CD, that is installed on a hdd.
(04:57:04) Twey: *I'm* a professional programmer.
(04:57:09) Twey: Don't try to pull that one on me.
(04:57:10) tinypoodle: right
(04:57:17) Twey: Look.
(04:57:28) Twey: Just go into any collection of Linux users
(04:57:43) Twey: And ask them why it's an absolutely ridiculous idea to run as root all the time.
(04:57:58) tinypoodle: hey
(04:58:13) Twey: You evidently don't believe anything I say.
(04:58:17) Twey: So go and ask a majority.
(04:58:46) tspier2: Exactly.
(04:58:58) tinypoodle: if we dont have the same idea in a question of *opinion*, the way you talk makes you sound like a troll
(04:59:11) tspier2: tinypoodle, if telling the truth makes us trolls, then we are proud to be trolls.
(04:59:13) tinypoodle: and its OFF-TOPIC
(04:59:57) Twey: You can't say that after discussing it for... fifteen minutes
(05:00:00) tinypoodle: yes, by definition a troll always thinks he *owns* the truth
(05:00:18) Twey: That just sounds like you've noticed you're losing and want to change the subject.
(05:00:34) tinypoodle: its off-topic anyway
(05:00:49) Twey: So go to #gentoo.
(05:00:55) Twey: Or do Puppy have an IRC channel?
(05:00:59) tspier2: tinypoodle, we are telling the truth; you just won't accept it. You only run as root, when you need to do something involving the system. That's the whole point of making regular users, so you don't fuck up the system.
(05:01:04) tspier2: Yep
(05:01:05) tspier2: #puppylinux
(05:01:11) tinypoodle: i wouldnt bother abot #gentoo
(05:02:01) tinypoodle: for the last time, i have sure used more than 10 single user systems
(05:02:23) tinypoodle: all your talk applies to multi user systema
(05:02:53) tinypoodle: you are comparing apples and peers, without understanding the differents
(05:03:24) tspier2: pears
(05:04:07) tinypoodle: tspier2: LOL
(05:04:19) tinypoodle: dr. freud
(05:04:56) tinypoodle: apples and pears are not the same, neither are apples and peers, so its the same
(05:05:11) tspier2: You have no idea what you are talking about.
(05:05:43) tinypoodle: why you try to insult me for my conscious *choices* ?
(05:08:53) ***Twey yawns.
(05:08:59) Twey: Well that was boring.
(05:09:03) tspier2: What a bunch of douches
(05:09:17) ***Twey shrugs.
(05:09:24) Twey: They'll find out soon enough.
(05:09:32) mode (+b alienjeff!*@* ) by tspier2
(05:09:39) tinypoodle: except from trolling now you are also stalking !
(05:09:47) tspier2: tinypoodle, you're a complete idiot.
(05:09:49) Twey: I don't see that there's any point wearing our keyboards trying to tell them.
(05:09:58) Twey: tinypoodle: You're the one who said it was off-topic for this channel, not us.
(05:10:14) ***tspier2 gives up
(05:10:29) tinypoodle: yeah but that makes you then troll here and in chan of my dist
(05:10:53) Twey: I don't think you understand what trolling is.
(05:11:05) tspier2: He obviously doesn't understand Linux either.
(05:11:07) tspier2: LOL!
(05:11:28) Twey: What we were attempting to do, by means of logical arguments, was to persuade you of our point of view -- in other words, hold a discussion.
(05:12:11) tinypoodle: thats what trolls often claim
(05:12:15) Twey: What you were attempting to do, by means of ad-hominem attacks and attempting to change the subject, was turn it into an argument because you knew you couldn't counter our points -- in other words, trolling.
(05:13:01) tinypoodle: spectie: ping!
(05:13:19) Twey: Starting here: 02:47 <@tinypoodle> spoiled kids...
(05:13:31) tinypoodle: uhuh