[23:37:30] <roamer323> okay - I can follow the storeGBeans 
and loadGBeans in Configuration .   But can you please tell me 
what are the input, output and purpose of 
GeronimoServiceFactory?  thx
[23:39:31] <dain> looking....
[23:40:24] <dain> ah it is really GeronimoUtil that does that work
[23:40:39] <dain> ignore GeronimoServiceFactory
[23:41:28] <dain> ok well you do need to look at createService 
method of GeronimoServiceFactory
[23:42:22] <dain> the conversion code assumes that you are 
using the NamedConstructorArg and LifecycleDetector 
BeanFactoryPostProcessors
[23:43:00] <roamer323> okay - I still don't understand one 
thing....
[23:43:26] <roamer323> I can get name and type info on 
attributes of a gbean from gbeandata - but how do you get the 
"initial value" back?
[23:43:49] <roamer323> do you perform a getAttribute() on the 
actual "live" gbean?
[23:50:00] <roamer323> I am just thinking that a gbean may 
have changed the property value after it is set by builder and 
before it is persisted to config store.
[23:50:34] <roamer323> is that explicitly forbidden somehow?