[02:12] Lucas Brown: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/3029275137_53755421fc_b.jpg
[02:13] Joseph Costa: hold on let me grab my own image
[02:15] Joseph Costa: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/3nigma_DE/proof.jpg
[02:16] Joseph Costa: proof that a computer can recognize physical memory
[02:16] Joseph Costa: and only use so much of it
[02:17] Lucas Brown: so your claim is hinging on this: the MacOS can only use 8gb on ram.
[02:18] Lucas Brown: correct?
[02:18] Lucas Brown: while its lunacy to presume that a company that controls every aspect would offer an amount of ram that isnt supported
[02:18] Joseph Costa: im not entirely sure, i believed it was 6gb, with the math saying its 8gb
[02:18] Joseph Costa: lol its lunacy to presume they want more money? yes totally
[02:19] Joseph Costa: you realize that at a point they make something close to 400% profit for each gb of ram since producing it in bulk is cheaper
[02:19] Joseph Costa: especially with 4gb sticks
[02:19] Lucas Brown: it makes more sense with custom PC systems but Apple wouldn't offer hardware that isnt utilized by its operating system. thats stupid, and even if it did no one would buy it and plenty have
[02:20] Joseph Costa: your assuming that people understand what we are talking about
[02:20] Lucas Brown: Mac Pro buyers do
[02:20] Joseph Costa: many, yourself included, read the paragraph about supporting hardware slots up to 32 gb
[02:20] Joseph Costa: and that windows can support 128
[02:21] Joseph Costa: and believe it
[02:21] Joseph Costa: and your also saying, by supporting the documentation, that windows is more powerful than mac
[02:21] Joseph Costa: which simply isnt true
[02:22] Lucas Brown: you have no argument.
[02:22] Joseph Costa: documentation from the company is a murky business
[02:22] Lucas Brown: you have zero evidence
[02:22] Joseph Costa: i have no argument that agrees with you, which basically means you reject it
[02:22] Lucas Brown: to have an argument you need evidence to support it
[02:22] Lucas Brown: and you have none
[02:22] Joseph Costa: well i apologize for dealing with personal experience
[02:22] Lucas Brown: i have three sets of documented evidence that support my claim
[02:22] Joseph Costa: im sorry i dont have an expensive piece of paper
[02:23] Joseph Costa: you have 3 sets of evidence that you have carefully ignored certain facts
[02:23] Joseph Costa: so that they supported what you said
[02:23] Lucas Brown: there is no need to be sarcastic with me
[02:23] Lucas Brown: we arent 10 years old
[02:23] Joseph Costa: i agree
[02:23] Joseph Costa: so stop having selective reading
[02:24] Lucas Brown: you have failed to show what part of the MacOS documentation and the Vista documentation i am selectively missing
[02:24] Joseph Costa: It can also enable computers to crunch twice the data per clock cycle
[02:24] Joseph Costa: if 32 bit can only handle 4gb
[02:24] Joseph Costa: that means 64 bit can handle 8
[02:25] Lucas Brown: that is not evidence
[02:25] Lucas Brown: thats presumption
[02:25] Joseph Costa: and you selectively forgot to read the part about it being windows documentation
[02:25] Joseph Costa: therefore making it null and void
[02:25] Joseph Costa: and probably full of spyware
[02:25] Joseph Costa: im presuming that because it says it works twice as fast
[02:25] Lucas Brown: so because microsoft says it it is inherantly not true
[02:25] Joseph Costa: that if it previously could hold 4 gb
[02:25] Joseph Costa: it can now hold 8
[02:25] Joseph Costa: 4 x 2 = 8
[02:26] Lucas Brown: so working twice as fast means its theoretical limitations are not the same as its physical ones?
[02:26] Lucas Brown: the theoretical 32bit limitations are 4gb and so are the physical ones
[02:26] Joseph Costa: alot of things are possible in theory
[02:26] Joseph Costa: if the hardware can handle calculations from 4gb and it doubles its power
[02:26] Joseph Costa: that means it can handle calculations from 8
[02:27] Lucas Brown: you cant be serious
[02:27] Lucas Brown: youre presuming
[02:27] Lucas Brown: that when hardware gets more powerful
[02:27] Joseph Costa: im presuming that 4 x 2 is 8?
[02:27] Lucas Brown: 32bit systems will be able to handle more than 4
[02:27] Joseph Costa: .....you have no idea how the hardware even works do you?
[02:27] Lucas Brown: dude you are being rediculous
[02:28] Lucas Brown: it was nice talking to you
[02:28] Lucas Brown: goodnight
[02:28] Joseph Costa: you can have all the power you want in a system but its only going to run as fast as its slowest piece of hardware
[02:28] Joseph Costa: meaning you can have 128gb of memory
[02:28] Joseph Costa: but no modern processors can handle more than 8
[02:28] Joseph Costa: lol ok night man
[02:29] Lucas Brown: btw
[02:29] Lucas Brown: cite that preposterous claim please
[02:30] Joseph Costa: -.-
[02:30] Lucas Brown: humour me
[02:30] Lucas Brown: i wanted to go to bed
[02:30] Lucas Brown: but with a statement like that
[02:30] Lucas Brown: i gotta see where youre coming from
[02:30] Joseph Costa: i dont have a cite, i would assume you knew that 32 bit can handle 1 processor
[02:30] Joseph Costa: 64 bit can handle two
[02:30] Joseph Costa: after that
[02:31] Joseph Costa: processors simply become more cores
[02:31] Joseph Costa: to run calculations through
[02:31] Joseph Costa: if each processor handles 4....that means
[02:31] Joseph Costa: two processors would run 8
[02:31] Lucas Brown: each core handles 4
[02:32] Joseph Costa: lol okay i want to see you run 8gb of ram
[02:32] Joseph Costa: on a dual core processor
[02:32] Lucas Brown: with that claim you are also making the assumption that until we reach 128 we are limited at 8gb
[02:32] Joseph Costa: no im assuming until we have operating systems that can actually handle more than 2 processors
[02:33] Joseph Costa: without turning the extras into more cores that just run calculations
[02:33] Joseph Costa: we are limited to 8gb
[02:33] Lucas Brown: my bosses mac has 4 processors
[02:33] Lucas Brown: it has 4 quad core 3.4ghz
[02:33] Joseph Costa: alot of computers do
[02:33] Lucas Brown: so the OS can handle it
[02:33] Joseph Costa: its just turning the other processors into extra cores
[02:33] Joseph Costa: lol go to bed man
[02:33] Lucas Brown: or apple wouldnt make it
[02:34] Lucas Brown: no this is hillarious
[02:34] Joseph Costa: its pointless to argue hardware when your the av guy
[02:35] Lucas Brown: what makes that pointless
[02:35] Joseph Costa: whats hilarious is that your going to assume that a company is only going to sell what their hardware is limited
[02:35] Lucas Brown: i think its pointless to argue when you have no evidence to backup preposterous claims
[02:35] Joseph Costa: because they are assuming that all customers know what any of it means :D
[02:35] Lucas Brown: they would get sued by those that do
[02:36] Joseph Costa: why?
[02:36] Lucas Brown: because its false advertising
[02:36] Joseph Costa: they never once claimed that their operating system supports it
[02:36] Lucas Brown: their machine supports it
[02:36] Joseph Costa: they simply stated that the hardware slots were there
[02:37] Lucas Brown: your flawed reason is absolutely hillarious
[02:37] Joseph Costa: anyway, we are resorting to just saying POPPYCOCK and PROPOSTEROUS
[02:38] Lucas Brown: i could say gross
[02:38] Lucas Brown: if you'd have me rather
[02:38] Lucas Brown: but excuse my diction
[02:38] Joseph Costa: i could say ignorant and uninformed documentation skiddy, if you will excuse my diction
[02:38] Joseph Costa: but anyway
[02:38] Joseph Costa: go take a hardware class
[02:39] Lucas Brown: go take a philosophy class and learn reason outside of circularity.
[02:39] Joseph Costa: im sure they offer one in san antonio somewhere that can talk about DOS - THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL
[02:39] Joseph Costa: lol nice reference to circular logic
[02:39] Joseph Costa: not that you know what circular logic is
[02:39] Joseph Costa: but nice reference
[02:40] Lucas Brown: are you seriously saying im a retard
[02:40] Joseph Costa: im saying you are talking about a subjective you are woefully ignorant of
[02:41] Lucas Brown: i absolutely am not
[02:41] Lucas Brown: and its pobjective dipsit
[02:41] Lucas Brown: shit*
[02:41] Lucas Brown: objective*
[02:41] Lucas Brown: lmfao
[02:41] Lucas Brown: keyboard fail
[02:41] Joseph Costa: yay name calling!!
[02:41] Joseph Costa: lol go to bed
[02:41] Lucas Brown: ok dad
[02:41] Joseph Costa: neither of us is going to agree
[02:42] Lucas Brown: can i call you SARCASM BOY!
[02:42] Lucas Brown: the sarcastic super-prepubescent
[02:42] Joseph Costa: sure if you have an undesirable need to sound like a retard without involuntarily slapping your arm against your chest whilst you stutter
[02:43] Lucas Brown: how clever
[02:43] Lucas Brown: anyway im out
[02:43] Joseph Costa: night man