Jul 16 00:47:57 <rp4k> wow this is so weird
Jul 16 00:48:03 <lilstevie|3G[s]> it is
Jul 16 00:48:03 <LEFBE> Hi all (again :) )
Jul 16 00:48:10 <prodigy60> ohai LEFBE
Jul 16 00:48:15 <sarah> yeah its probably gonna be that way for a long time to come
Jul 16 00:48:28 <rp4k> my phone wont restore with custom fw 
Jul 16 00:48:31 <rp4k> and i dont know why ..
Jul 16 00:48:52 <rp4k> itunes just sits at preparing iphone for restore.
Jul 16 00:49:07 <prodigy60> chendo, oddly, my phone is STILL working, i dont understand how or why, but it's working. thanks again.
Jul 16 00:49:18 <sarah> rp4k: i'd help you but i've stopped caring
Jul 16 00:49:23 <chendo> lol, no problem
Jul 16 00:49:25 <rp4k> why
Jul 16 00:49:27 <rp4k> :(
Jul 16 00:49:33 <chendo> just promise to unban me if hozy bans me ;p
Jul 16 00:49:34 <sarah> read the logs
Jul 16 00:49:44 <rp4k> i dont have logs
Jul 16 00:49:45 <chendo> prodigy60, i got tipped off when i was dmesging when it happened
Jul 16 00:49:45 <prodigy60> chendo, i dont even think he has privs anymore
Jul 16 00:49:46 <sarah> i'm sure ctrlfreq will help you
Jul 16 00:49:48 <prodigy60> he shouldnt
Jul 16 00:49:49 <chendo> oh awesome
Jul 16 00:49:59 <rp4k> nah he will say ask in channel
Jul 16 00:50:00 <rp4k> lol
Jul 16 00:50:04 <sarah> oh well
Jul 16 00:50:08 <sarah> sorry
Jul 16 00:50:13 <chendo> yeah, it was disassociating then reassociating
Jul 16 00:50:20 <chendo> and at work it was fine, but at home it wasn't
Jul 16 00:50:23 <sarah> i've given till it hurt
Jul 16 00:50:27 <chendo> so i figured the only thing it could be was encryption settings
Jul 16 00:50:38 <sarah> i can't any more
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Jul 16 00:50:57 <lilstevie|3G[s]> he's glined chendo
Jul 16 00:50:58 <bryn> Morning all
Jul 16 00:51:06 <prodigy60> chendo, yeah... weirdness.
Jul 16 00:51:06 <chendo> lilstevie|3G[s], haha what?
Jul 16 00:51:08 <chendo> what for?
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Jul 16 00:51:11 <prodigy60> lilstevie|3G[s], glined? seriously?
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Jul 16 00:51:16 <lilstevie|3G[s]> no idea
Jul 16 00:51:18 <prodigy60> what's that about?
Jul 16 00:51:22 <bryn> whos been glined now?
Jul 16 00:51:22 <lilstevie|3G[s]> but he has a gline
Jul 16 00:51:33 <prodigy60> interesting
Jul 16 00:51:35 <chendo> probably by abusing the banhammer
Jul 16 00:51:48 <prodigy60> that's one reason i removed his & in #itouch
Jul 16 00:51:53 <rp4k> anyone know how to do the 1600x error fix for mac??
Jul 16 00:51:55 <prodigy60> that and he was an asshat
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Jul 16 00:52:00 <chendo> hey lets ban chendo because he brings up a valid point
Jul 16 00:52:02 <bryn> who?
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Jul 16 00:52:04 <Zigtown> score 1 for the good guys
Jul 16 00:52:09 <Zigtown> good post dev team:)
Jul 16 00:52:29 <sarah> fuck...i cant stand it
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Jul 16 00:52:42 * [Paige] (Paige@c-24-18-221-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net): Paige
Jul 16 00:52:42 * [Paige] is connecting from *@c-24-18-221-56.hsd1.wa.comcast.net 24.18.221.56
Jul 16 00:52:42 * [Paige] #projectsnow #IdleRPG #linkinus #iphone 
Jul 16 00:52:42 * [Paige] wrath.conceitedsoftware.com :Conceited Software Server
Jul 16 00:52:42 * [Paige] idle 01:27:00, signon: Wed Jul 15 23:05:43
Jul 16 00:52:42 * [paige] End of WHOIS list.
Jul 16 00:52:43 <sarah> rp4k: you have the right version fw right?
Jul 16 00:52:57 <rp4k> yeah 2g 3.0fw
Jul 16 00:53:00 <prodigy60> whoever posted at the blog: use paragraphs. kthx.
Jul 16 00:53:07 <sarah> 1, 1?
Jul 16 00:53:09 >hostserv< on
Jul 16 00:53:10 -HostServ- Please identify to services first.
Jul 16 00:53:25 <chendo> secondeded
Jul 16 00:53:26 <rp4k> iPhone1,1_3.0_7A341_Custom_Restore
Jul 16 00:53:28 >nickserv< identify ****
Jul 16 00:53:28 * services.osx86.hu sets mode +r Paige
Jul 16 00:53:28 -NickServ- Password accepted - you are now recognized.
Jul 16 00:53:28 -HostServ- Your vhost of vpn-17-9-22-211.sea.apple.com is now activated.
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Jul 16 00:53:44 * bryn confused
Jul 16 00:53:50 <sarah> rp4k: did you try using redsn0w or pwnage tool?
Jul 16 00:54:00 <rp4k> i built the custom fw, with pwnage tool
Jul 16 00:54:03 <sarah> i'd create a new ipsw
Jul 16 00:54:08 <rp4k> yeah
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Jul 16 00:54:09 <rp4k> ok
Jul 16 00:54:10 <sarah> maybe yours was bad
Jul 16 00:54:15 <rp4k> maybe
Jul 16 00:54:16 <rp4k> thx
Jul 16 00:54:24 <sarah> i really can't help
Jul 16 00:54:33 <sarah> today was just such a bummer
Jul 16 00:54:50 <sarah> i'm not going to give this channel focus any more
Jul 16 00:54:57 <sarah> sorry
Jul 16 00:55:13 <lilstevie|3G[s]> sarah :(
Jul 16 00:55:31 <sarah> can't help it lilstevie
Jul 16 00:55:39 <sarah> the dissing went on for hours
Jul 16 00:55:48 <sarah> only zini stood up
Jul 16 00:55:57 <lilstevie|3G[s]> I must have missed
Jul 16 00:56:00 <sarah> sorry, i have no friends here
Jul 16 00:56:13 <sarah> just people who take
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Jul 16 00:56:32 <sarah> i gave 2 years
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Jul 16 00:56:46 <sarah> as you know i worked for apple
Jul 16 00:57:04 <sarah> i'm not taking this any longer
Jul 16 00:57:34 <Paige> what does working for apple once upon a time ago have to do with anything?
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Jul 16 00:57:52 <sarah> fuck you paige
Jul 16 00:58:03 <sarah> and the horse you fuckin rde in on
Jul 16 00:58:09 * toddjg is now known as prodigy60
Jul 16 00:58:16 <Paige> hey back off, it was a simple question, not a putdown
Jul 16 00:58:16 * IDKnow|away is now known as IDKnow
Jul 16 00:58:28 <sarah> let it be known you are male
Jul 16 00:58:34 <Paige> right
Jul 16 00:58:36 <h4ck> ...
Jul 16 00:58:46 <sarah> a women would not say the things i have seen you say
Jul 16 00:58:53 <h4ck> wow, thats sexist
Jul 16 00:58:59 <Paige> oh really
Jul 16 00:59:00 <sarah> s/woomen/woman/
Jul 16 00:59:05 <Paige> give me an example
Jul 16 00:59:08 <sarah> yeah really
Jul 16 00:59:20 <sarah> i'm not gonna give you the time of day
Jul 16 00:59:25 <h4ck> its /womyn/
Jul 16 00:59:26 <Paige> whatever
Jul 16 00:59:27 <sarah> ./ignore paige
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Jul 16 00:59:32 <Paige> fucking cunt
Jul 16 00:59:48 <bryn> wow, sarah has a temper!
Jul 16 00:59:59 <sarah> lol
Jul 16 01:00:07 <sarah> your the fuckin pussy :P
Jul 16 01:00:11 * h4ck resists urge to make period joke
Jul 16 01:00:19 <h4ck> your is a posessive pronoun
Jul 16 01:00:31 <sarah> h4ck: go for it i dont care
Jul 16 01:00:35 <Paige> shit is as fucked up as it is because of poor lil sarah who has no friends according to her
Jul 16 01:00:37 <h4ck> you're is a contraction for "you are"
Jul 16 01:00:38 <sarah> the channel is a cesspool
Jul 16 01:00:42 <h4ck> eh, as i said i don't care
Jul 16 01:01:01 <sarah> i give up
Jul 16 01:01:02 <h4ck> i just come here to watch ctrlfreq get drunk and yell at people
Jul 16 01:01:28 <Paige> how long did you work for apple before you were fired sarah?
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Jul 16 01:01:31 <sarah> yeah cuz thast good stuff
Jul 16 01:01:39 * bryn FACE BALM
Jul 16 01:01:43 <FxChiP> heh
Jul 16 01:01:50 <Z00L> ohai
Jul 16 01:01:52 <FxChiP> So 8.2.1 breaks iTunes syncing with the Palm Pre
Jul 16 01:01:53 <sarah> Paige: i wasn't fired
Jul 16 01:01:57 <Paige> hi z0ol
Jul 16 01:02:02 <h4ck> my old boss was fired from apple
Jul 16 01:02:02 <[]D> only?
Jul 16 01:02:06 <Paige> not the story i have heard
Jul 16 01:02:10 <h4ck> he was a systems engineer that leaked 10.4
Jul 16 01:02:18 <sarah> Paige: i know who you are and what your doing here
Jul 16 01:02:25 <Paige> oh really
Jul 16 01:02:28 <Paige> do tell
Jul 16 01:02:29 <sarah> yep
Jul 16 01:02:33 <sarah> nah
Jul 16 01:02:33 <FxChiP> what the fuck now
Jul 16 01:02:48 <Paige> you don't know shit apparently
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Jul 16 01:02:59 <sarah> ive been here since the beginning, if people wanna believe you then fuck them
Jul 16 01:03:05 <sarah> i know who you are
Jul 16 01:03:13 <Paige> no you don't
Jul 16 01:03:16 <sarah> and you can do nothing to me
Jul 16 01:03:19 <sarah> no i do
Jul 16 01:03:22 <FxChiP> I'm lost
Jul 16 01:03:25 <sarah> :P
Jul 16 01:03:25 <Paige> then share
Jul 16 01:03:26 <[]D> lol
Jul 16 01:03:32 <h4ck> oh my my my
Jul 16 01:03:34 <Paige> so *everyone* can know
Jul 16 01:03:38 <h4ck> #iphone gets dirty in the day time
Jul 16 01:03:42 <FxChiP> I'd like to know
Jul 16 01:03:43 <sarah> nah cuz i don't care any more
Jul 16 01:03:45 <bryn> sarah: Does it matter that you have been here since the beginning? not trying to fuel the fire, but you've not been the most pleasant person ive seen in here..
Jul 16 01:03:45 <FxChiP> h4ck, it's 1 AM!
Jul 16 01:03:46 <sarah> 'bring it on
Jul 16 01:03:52 <sarah> they deserve it
Jul 16 01:03:52 <tjcarter> ...
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Jul 16 01:04:02 <h4ck> FxChiP: sorry, daytime in perth australia
Jul 16 01:04:06 <[]D> who?  im lost here
Jul 16 01:04:13 <FxChiP> h4ck, Australia is on Australian time
Jul 16 01:04:14 <tjcarter> this is pretty much why I'm done.
Jul 16 01:04:16 <FxChiP> h4ck, it's not *real* time
Jul 16 01:04:18 <FxChiP> like where I live
Jul 16 01:04:18 <FxChiP> ;)
Jul 16 01:04:21 <h4ck> true.
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Jul 16 01:04:27 <sarah> paige roxs, sarah suxs...go with it
Jul 16 01:04:29 * socalswimmer wants to hear 
Jul 16 01:04:37 * FxChiP doesn't think sarah sucks
Jul 16 01:04:41 <sarah> nah
Jul 16 01:04:47 <Paige> sure both of you go whine to sam, get things all mixed and and crazy and then leave
Jul 16 01:04:49 <sarah> you all told me i sux today
Jul 16 01:04:50 * bryn doesnt know who sarah is.
Jul 16 01:04:52 <Paige> what a copout
Jul 16 01:04:57 <sarah> live with it
Jul 16 01:05:01 <sarah> i'm done 
Jul 16 01:05:07 <tjcarter> actually, I never talked to sam until afterward
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Jul 16 01:05:13 <FxChiP> I never said you sux, the hell
Jul 16 01:05:26 <h4ck> oh jesus, who the hell is sam?
Jul 16 01:05:28 <h4ck> this is getting thick
Jul 16 01:05:31 * bryn plays the violin
Jul 16 01:05:37 <Paige> you have no fucking idea who i am sarah
Jul 16 01:05:41 <FxChiP> h4ck, apparently one of the first guys 
Jul 16 01:05:41 <[]D> nice
Jul 16 01:05:43 <prodigy60> sam owns one of the servers on this network
Jul 16 01:05:45 <lilstevie|afk> h4ck: owner of osx86.hu
Jul 16 01:05:51 <prodigy60> like wrath or something
Jul 16 01:05:51 <h4ck> you're a boy with a girl name
Jul 16 01:05:52 <h4ck> HAR
Jul 16 01:05:52 <FxChiP> ^
Jul 16 01:05:53 <sarah> keep thinking that paige
Jul 16 01:05:55 <prodigy60> or that
Jul 16 01:05:55 <[]D> great
Jul 16 01:05:56 <prodigy60> iono
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Jul 16 01:06:01 <sarah> ignorance is bliss
Jul 16 01:06:02 <h4ck> ;/
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Jul 16 01:06:07 <[]D> yea
Jul 16 01:06:09 <FxChiP> sarah, PM?
Jul 16 01:06:18 <Paige> prove it or you don't know shit
Jul 16 01:06:22 <sarah> FxChiP: no
Jul 16 01:06:22 <h4ck> anywho, i have a mail server to install. someone please log this brilliance for me.
Jul 16 01:06:26 <FxChiP> :(
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Jul 16 01:06:32 <sarah> his channel showed me their true colors today
Jul 16 01:06:38 <sarah> deal with it
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Jul 16 01:06:49 <bryn> sarah: deal with what?
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Jul 16 01:07:00 * drudge :No such nick/channel
Jul 16 01:07:00 * [drudge] End of WHOIS list.
Jul 16 01:07:08 <sarah> you hate me and love those who seek to end this
Jul 16 01:07:11 <lilstevie|afk> do we need to kill eachother now?
Jul 16 01:07:18 <[]D> no
Jul 16 01:07:22 <sarah> i will not help
Jul 16 01:07:31 <lilstevie|afk> i mean seriously
Jul 16 01:07:33 <tjcarter> lilstevie|afk: You missed me being accused of fraud
Jul 16 01:07:33 <sarah> where were you all today?
Jul 16 01:07:40 <tjcarter> it's great
Jul 16 01:07:44 <FxChiP> I was elsewhere
Jul 16 01:07:44 <lilstevie|afk> tjcarter: what? 0.o
Jul 16 01:07:46 <sarah> staying silent
Jul 16 01:07:51 <socalswimmer> lilstevie was afk
Jul 16 01:07:51 <lilstevie|afk> is that when you pm'd me?
Jul 16 01:07:54 <tjcarter> http://pastie.org/547567
Jul 16 01:07:54 <chronic> lilstevie: look in other chan
Jul 16 01:07:54 <socalswimmer> ha ha ha
Jul 16 01:07:55 <bryn> tjcarter: orly? seriously?
Jul 16 01:07:57 <FxChiP> I don't pay attention to this window much at times
Jul 16 01:07:58 <h4ck> k back what did i miss!
Jul 16 01:08:01 <Z00L> ohnoes...this is still going? :(
Jul 16 01:08:02 <Paige> many of us were here watching you go postal
Jul 16 01:08:03 * Z00L sad
Jul 16 01:08:04 <chronic> oh, nvm, pastie is right there :P
Jul 16 01:08:07 <prodigy60> k fuck
Jul 16 01:08:07 <h4ck> oh, apparently nothing!
Jul 16 01:08:08 <FxChiP> seriously
Jul 16 01:08:18 <sarah> there is a special place in hell for those who in times of moral crisis declare their neutrality
Jul 16 01:08:21 <FxChiP> What the hell happened?
Jul 16 01:08:22 <lilstevie|afk> cause i was at work
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Jul 16 01:08:29 * lilstevie|afk is now known as lilstevie
Jul 16 01:08:31 <FxChiP> When did it happen?
Jul 16 01:08:38 >prodigy60< he is fucking instigating yet again
Jul 16 01:08:40 <prodigy60> I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT. SOMEONE LET ME KNOW WHEN THIS IS DONE, FOR GOOD! I WILL NOT BE BACK BEFORE THEN.
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Jul 16 01:09:04 <lilstevie> chronic: i was going to say my scroll back doesnt run too far
Jul 16 01:09:19 <h4ck> awwwwww prodigy!
Jul 16 01:09:23 <h4ck> missing the good stuff ;/
Jul 16 01:09:32 <sarah> i read 16 hours of being dissed
Jul 16 01:09:39 <sarah> only zini spoke up
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Jul 16 01:09:51 <h4ck> lolwut
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Jul 16 01:10:03 <planetbeing> I heard there was some amazing drama in here over the last day or so.
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Jul 16 01:10:22 <lilstevie> tjcarter: thats fucked up
Jul 16 01:10:27 <lilstevie> planetbeing: yep :(
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Jul 16 01:10:37 <sarah> planetbeing: i've had it
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Jul 16 01:10:42 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I'm a fraud!  =D
Jul 16 01:10:51 <sarah> planetbeing: i'm played out
Jul 16 01:10:55 <tjcarter> planetbeing: http://pastie.org/547567
Jul 16 01:11:06 * planetbeing looks.
Jul 16 01:11:17 <sarah> i read 16 hours of hate directed at me
Jul 16 01:11:30 <sarah> and no one but zini spoke up
Jul 16 01:11:39 <chronic> sarah: when was this?
Jul 16 01:11:39 <sarah> i can't help any one any more
Jul 16 01:11:39 <planetbeing> :(
Jul 16 01:11:49 <sarah>  chronic: today
Jul 16 01:11:55 <tjcarter> planetbeing: pretty well proves this is a vendetta
Jul 16 01:11:56 <planetbeing> Thank god I was busy working.
Jul 16 01:12:09 <[]D> who was selling a  3GS?   i want one too..
Jul 16 01:12:19 * FxChiP sighs
Jul 16 01:12:22 <chronic> was it this morning sarah? I remember i hung around for as long as i could before i went off to breakfast, and it seemed peaceful
Jul 16 01:12:22 <tjcarter> []D: apparently I was, or said I was
Jul 16 01:12:25 <tjcarter> []D: for $30
Jul 16 01:12:33 <FxChiP> I was around until about 8 PDT
Jul 16 01:12:35 <sarah> chronic: i know what you did
Jul 16 01:12:36 <FxChiP> er
Jul 16 01:12:39 <FxChiP> 8-10 or so
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Jul 16 01:12:43 <FxChiP> Was I even here?
Jul 16 01:12:52 <FxChiP> When did this happen again?
Jul 16 01:12:59 <sarah> chronic: i saw...much love to you
Jul 16 01:13:04 <chronic> sarah: no, i was at breakfast, i don't think i did anything o.O
Jul 16 01:13:06 <tjcarter> chronic: it pretty much went to hell after you and I left
Jul 16 01:13:14 <sarah> chronic: but this channel wants to be negative
Jul 16 01:13:16 <chronic> oh oh, ok, the sam thing
Jul 16 01:13:24 <[]D> i think i will get it when i get it...or maybe not.. who knows...
Jul 16 01:13:25 * planetbeing wonders if he even has logs of it.
Jul 16 01:13:26 <FxChiP> "the sam thing?"
Jul 16 01:13:28 <sarah> chronic: no sam was with us
Jul 16 01:13:31 <chronic> tjcarter: oh, damn o.O
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Jul 16 01:13:39 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I can give you logs up until about 7am PDT
Jul 16 01:13:51 <sarah> chronic: sam had make me successor to the chanel
Jul 16 01:13:52 <FxChiP> what day
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Jul 16 01:13:58 <chronic> sarah: yup he told me
Jul 16 01:14:05 <h4ck> tjcarter: he was prolly drunk, cut him some slack
Jul 16 01:14:06 <chronic> I don't know what that means, but yeah :P
Jul 16 01:14:09 <Paige> the logs were posted to pastebin.ca this afternoon
Jul 16 01:14:15 <sarah> chronic: iZsh changed everything
Jul 16 01:14:16 <h4ck> link pls
Jul 16 01:14:19 <tjcarter> h4ck: people keep talking about his "rule"
Jul 16 01:14:25 <h4ck> what rule
Jul 16 01:14:38 <tjcarter> h4ck: channels are managed and maintained, not ruled.  If you rule a channel, you're doing it wrong.
Jul 16 01:14:39 <Paige> http://pastebin.ca/1496053
Jul 16 01:14:50 <bryn> http://pastebin.ca/1496053
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Jul 16 01:14:59 <sarah> i have unaltered logs
Jul 16 01:14:59 <bryn> damn irssi
Jul 16 01:15:09 <sarah> i don;t trust paige
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Jul 16 01:15:17 <sarah> paige is here to destroy this channel
Jul 16 01:15:23 <tjcarter> I have C&P logs (I don't normally log)
Jul 16 01:15:32 <planetbeing> Personally, I like the system where no one has ops.
Jul 16 01:15:41 <Paige> i am not here to destroy anything sarah
Jul 16 01:15:46 <planetbeing> Well, except for a few people who only use moderation powers to take care of spammers.
Jul 16 01:15:47 <tjcarter> you get to see me sending notices to people and whatnot
Jul 16 01:15:55 <[]D> nice aim
Jul 16 01:16:06 <Paige> i had nothing to do with the drama last night at all
Jul 16 01:16:24 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I still have +h in the bot, I will not use it unless there's a direct attack on channel
Jul 16 01:16:29 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I'm done.
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Jul 16 01:16:49 <h4ck> tjcarter: you sound like you've been on IRC as long as me!
Jul 16 01:16:51 <sarah> planetbeing: thats great but thank you for allowing what happened today 
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Jul 16 01:17:00 <tjcarter> planetbeing: you'll find I made that conclusion BEFORE the shitstorm last night
Jul 16 01:17:03 <UD`> is the max usb transfer speed on iphones 1.4MBps ?
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Jul 16 01:17:19 <planetbeing> sarah: I try to stay out of everything that happens on this IRC server.
Jul 16 01:17:25 <sarah> wharever
Jul 16 01:17:27 <lilstevie> i have logs of it all
Jul 16 01:17:28 <lilstevie> its just a matter of exporting
Jul 16 01:17:28 <UD`> thats all im getting according to resource monitor
Jul 16 01:17:29 <sarah> whatever*
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Jul 16 01:17:42 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I went -o last night because talk of geohot's hacks was getting kicks and ban threats
Jul 16 01:17:43 <sarah> i will not be helping going foward
Jul 16 01:17:51 <hoodie> nothing happened today. I've been here all day... and I"m really confused. It was an average day. Last night was weird... but today was... just as lame as any other. I just glanced through the logs... I don't see anything like what you describe... 
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Jul 16 01:18:05 <[]D> sems it time to open the blank windows..jezz
Jul 16 01:18:17 <iGuru> Hmm, turns out after all the problems I had with redsn0w... after using purplera1n my 3GS is working great
Jul 16 01:18:21 <sarah>  hoodie: you lie and i will use my +h till its taken if you persist
Jul 16 01:18:34 * planetbeing sighs.
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Jul 16 01:18:38 <h4ck> ffs someone send me the logs!!!
Jul 16 01:18:39 <Rehan> lol
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Jul 16 01:18:47 <tjcarter> sarah .. honestly had more courage than I, becuase she stood up to ctrl about it, and I just -o'd
Jul 16 01:18:48 <planetbeing> Well, this is not a dev team channel. At least I hope it isn't. I sure wouldn't want to have to take responsibility for it. =P
Jul 16 01:18:49 <FxChiP> I was asleep, what the fuck
Jul 16 01:18:52 <h4ck> ahh wait that wsa the pastebin
Jul 16 01:18:53 <Paige> h4ck, i posted the pastebin for it
Jul 16 01:18:56 <hoodie> I don't think anyone hates you. 
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Jul 16 01:19:11 <tjcarter> planetbeing: well, iZsh pretty much did this morning
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Jul 16 01:19:18 <sarah> hoodie: orly? should i flood the channel with it?
Jul 16 01:19:33 <tjcarter> sarah: I'd rather you didn't
Jul 16 01:19:36 <sarah> it only went on for 16 hours
Jul 16 01:19:42 <tjcarter> sarah: pastie a log or so
Jul 16 01:19:46 <Rehan> no ops is probably better.  # of fights spammers have caused in this channel in the past 48 hours = 0. # of fights people have caused fighting over ops bullshit...priceless
Jul 16 01:19:55 <rp4k> tjcarter:  how long does redsnow sit at the waiting for reboot screen ??? 
Jul 16 01:20:02 <sarah>  tjcarter: its not worth my time
Jul 16 01:20:07 <tjcarter> rp4k: someone has said 10 min
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Jul 16 01:20:08 <sarah>  tjcarter: its over
Jul 16 01:20:15 <rp4k> thanks tjcarter 
Jul 16 01:20:26 * NeoTermer is now known as NeoTremer
Jul 16 01:20:26 <planetbeing> If it takes too long, just reboot and try again.
Jul 16 01:20:26 <chronic> definitely, 100% agreed: "Rehan: no ops is probably better.  # of fights spammers have caused in this channel in the past 48 hours = 0. # of fights people have caused fighting over ops bullshit...priceless"
Jul 16 01:20:31 <tjcarter> sarah: IMO, the whole community lost.
Jul 16 01:20:36 <[]D> i want my hw refound
Jul 16 01:20:39 <c0nv1ct> SARAH!
Jul 16 01:20:41 <sarah> tjcarter: i agree
Jul 16 01:20:41 <iGuru> rp4k, shouldn't be too long
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Jul 16 01:20:56 <tjcarter> but it's basically over, except the vendettas appear to be active
Jul 16 01:20:57 * FxChiP sighs
Jul 16 01:20:57 <h4ck> wow
Jul 16 01:21:01 <tjcarter> and they're aimed at two people
Jul 16 01:21:06 <socalswimmer> what does -o do?
Jul 16 01:21:07 <planetbeing> Who is that? =P
Jul 16 01:21:08 <rp4k> its been 1 min :P 
Jul 16 01:21:08 <tjcarter> congratulations sarah
Jul 16 01:21:15 <tjcarter> socalswimmer: no longer chanop
Jul 16 01:21:18 <FxChiP> whatever, I love being attacked for "not doing anything" 
Jul 16 01:21:21 <matt> morning
Jul 16 01:21:22 <socalswimmer> oic thanks
Jul 16 01:21:35 <bryn> Morning matt
Jul 16 01:21:52 <UD`> anyone care to speed test usb transfer with iphones?
Jul 16 01:21:54 <sarah> FxChiP: don;t try and take victim, i own it today
Jul 16 01:22:00 <tjcarter> sarah: FxChiP has already been punching bag over this crap, I don't blame him for not speaking up
Jul 16 01:22:02 <UD`> im not sure if its a driver issue..or its just slow
Jul 16 01:22:06 <h4ck> that was pretty boring drama
Jul 16 01:22:06 <avi> Where are winterboard themes located via ssh? 
Jul 16 01:22:09 <planetbeing> Apparently I am culpable by inaction, since I was losing sleep over ultrasn0w instead of keeping the peace in #iphone. =P
Jul 16 01:22:11 <FxChiP> tjcarter, it's not even that
Jul 16 01:22:11 <iGuru> rp4k, give it another couple, then start to worry if it's not done
Jul 16 01:22:19 <FxChiP> tjcarter, I would totally understand if it was because I simply didn't speak up
Jul 16 01:22:19 <h4ck> someone being bitchy, someone questioning the bitchiness, etc. etc.
Jul 16 01:22:23 <h4ck> eh whatevs.
Jul 16 01:22:25 <[]D> murder was the cas
Jul 16 01:22:25 <FxChiP> tjcarter, I'd even feel really shitty
Jul 16 01:22:32 <FxChiP> tjcarter, the fact is, I didn't even know it was going on, so I'm annoyed
Jul 16 01:22:37 <`DNA`> Looks like I missed something lol
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Jul 16 01:22:46 <sarah> FxChiP: today no one spke up...well sam, zini and chronic did
Jul 16 01:22:46 <FxChiP> tjcarter, and equally much at myself for not knowing as I am about being attacked for it
Jul 16 01:22:56 <sarah> but they were over ruled
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Jul 16 01:23:04 <sarah> so lets talk about rape and drugs
Jul 16 01:23:05 <FxChiP> how could *sam* be overruled
Jul 16 01:23:06 <tjcarter> FxChiP: if you didn't know, then don't worry about it
Jul 16 01:23:06 <FxChiP> and by who?
Jul 16 01:23:12 <sarah> thats what we want here right?
Jul 16 01:23:14 <[]D> killed the messenger now wont knoe the massege... doh
Jul 16 01:23:16 <planetbeing> I think I was kicked out of the channel at some point.
Jul 16 01:23:19 <planetbeing> Was this before or after that?
Jul 16 01:23:28 <tjcarter> planetbeing: I have logs if you want them
Jul 16 01:23:28 <[]D> inbetween
Jul 16 01:23:28 <planetbeing> I didn't realize until a few hours later.
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Jul 16 01:23:33 <sarah> lets call it efnet
Jul 16 01:23:45 <tjcarter> even efnet has standards most places.
Jul 16 01:23:46 <sarah> lets act out our angry fantasies
Jul 16 01:23:50 <lilstevie> i was at work most of the day
Jul 16 01:23:55 <chronic> sarah: while some people were being totally douches, some know that ctrlfreq has a posse of fanboys that would go batshit on them if they stepped into the drama
Jul 16 01:24:00 <FxChiP> I've not been to EFnet in a while
Jul 16 01:24:00 <planetbeing> tjcarter: let me see.
Jul 16 01:24:04 <bryn> sarah: Seriously? LOL You need to go outside for abit me thinks.
Jul 16 01:24:04 <sarah> and get angry at those who oppose
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Jul 16 01:24:05 <lilstevie> and when i did come in there was piece
Jul 16 01:24:17 <tjcarter> planetbeing: PM a preferred email
Jul 16 01:24:17 <chronic> sarah: and many were idling, that too :)
Jul 16 01:24:30 * sarah has kicked bryn from #iphone (fuck you)
Jul 16 01:24:31 * hoodie just looked again... can't find anything unusual... small episode where zini breifly kicked someone... but he came back and made nice...
Jul 16 01:24:36 <h4ck> hmm.. rape and drugs
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Jul 16 01:24:42 <[]D> well 50000 in stocks where droped to a garbage pail... no i wont spend a dime on any stock ever
Jul 16 01:24:42 <h4ck> there is a topic of interest
Jul 16 01:24:42 <bryn> There we go.
Jul 16 01:24:46 <sarah> yep
Jul 16 01:24:49 <therealduckie> ctrlfreq has a posse now?
Jul 16 01:24:53 <sarah> next i ban
Jul 16 01:24:56 <h4ck> aww
Jul 16 01:25:13 <sarah> say something else
Jul 16 01:25:13 <FxChiP> oh boy
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Jul 16 01:25:13 <h4ck> who? me?
Jul 16 01:25:13 <bryn> sarah: me?
Jul 16 01:25:13 <bryn> :P
Jul 16 01:25:13 <sarah> yeah
Jul 16 01:25:13 <FxChiP> h4ck, not you
Jul 16 01:25:13 <sarah> go for it
Jul 16 01:25:14 <bryn> orly?
Jul 16 01:25:18 <chronic> FxChiP: iZsh has ircop powers, so he removed me as founder and started messing with aop / hop lists o.O
Jul 16 01:25:18 <rp4k> ok in redsnow it has been 4 mins almost 5
Jul 16 01:25:18 <sarah> i don't fuckin care
Jul 16 01:25:18 <bryn> What have i done?
Jul 16 01:25:18 <rp4k> :(
Jul 16 01:25:20 <[]D> love it
Jul 16 01:25:22 <FxChiP> chronic, wat
Jul 16 01:25:26 <h4ck> oh, cause iw as gonna say... i tried some ecstacy a couple weekends ago
Jul 16 01:25:27 <bryn> i barely speak in here, wasnt here for the crap.
Jul 16 01:25:31 <FxChiP> chronic, even though sam put you in there?
Jul 16 01:25:32 <chronic> sam was busy doing some server installations and didn't have time for this bullshit
Jul 16 01:25:32 <FxChiP> chronic, and sam's the owner of the channel?
Jul 16 01:25:33 <h4ck> it was totally bullshit. i was drunk already, and i didn't feel anything
Jul 16 01:25:36 <chronic> FxChiP: yup
Jul 16 01:25:37 <h4ck> everyone else was doing coke and shit
Jul 16 01:25:38 <FxChiP> chronic, what the fuck
Jul 16 01:25:40 <h4ck> which freaks me out.
Jul 16 01:25:44 <FxChiP> chronic, what the hell is iZsh's issue
Jul 16 01:25:49 <bryn> sarah: I just think you need to chill, is that a problem for you?
Jul 16 01:25:57 <sarah> bye
Jul 16 01:25:58 <planetbeing> sarah: Maybe you should cool down for a bit. I'm sorry about what happened to you (though I'm not even sure what did), but you shouldn't let IRC get under your skin.
Jul 16 01:26:02 <bryn> k
Jul 16 01:26:03 * sarah sets ban on *!*Bryn@if.it.wasnt.for.xp.we.would.still.be.using.me
Jul 16 01:26:03 * sarah has kicked bryn from #iphone (fuck you)
Jul 16 01:26:06 <chronic> i dunno, i don't really even care, i am just happy that certain people aren't in as high access levels as before
Jul 16 01:26:08 <FxChiP> okay
Jul 16 01:26:09 <FxChiP> what the hell
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Jul 16 01:26:16 <[]D> well iwas a plasure... have good life you alll... 
Jul 16 01:26:18 <therealduckie> this is how it REALLY happened, guys:  http://pastebin.ca/1496053
Jul 16 01:26:19 <sarah> its over
Jul 16 01:26:19 <matt> oh yeah nice one
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Jul 16 01:26:26 <sarah> accept it
Jul 16 01:26:27 <[]D> 4 ever
Jul 16 01:26:28 <FxChiP> therealduckie, I don't trust your logs
Jul 16 01:26:36 <FxChiP> arbitrarily
Jul 16 01:26:37 <FxChiP> :D
Jul 16 01:26:38 <therealduckie> FxChiP: thay're not my logs
Jul 16 01:26:45 <therealduckie> *they're
Jul 16 01:26:49 <chronic> thats the link paige posted
Jul 16 01:26:50 <FxChiP> therealduckie, all the more reason not to trust them :D
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Jul 16 01:27:12 <sarah> therealduckie: i know you hate me so i know your logs will be altered
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Jul 16 01:27:27 <therealduckie> um, I do NOT hate you, and why the fuck would I atler logs?
Jul 16 01:27:32 <therealduckie> what do i have to gain from that?
Jul 16 01:27:33 <FxChiP> My main beef has only ever been that I was insulted and kicked for saying "purplesn0w has a clean payload"
Jul 16 01:27:34 <therealduckie> nothing
Jul 16 01:27:35 <sarah> i wasn't here all day, i worked for 15 hours
Jul 16 01:27:36 <therealduckie> so yeah, thanks 
Jul 16 01:27:48 <Paige> i have nothing to gain by altering logs either
Jul 16 01:27:54 <therealduckie> I wasnt here all day either
Jul 16 01:27:56 <FxChiP> And I'm irritated that ctrlfreq decided to play martyr when he was the one dicking people
Jul 16 01:27:56 <sarah> yeah right
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Jul 16 01:28:02 <therealduckie> we had tornadoes and I had no power for 9 hours
Jul 16 01:28:10 <sarah> Paige: you are here to kill the unlock
Jul 16 01:28:15 <FxChiP> I was gone from roughly 10-something AM to 8-something PM
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Jul 16 01:28:28 <Paige> to kill the unlock? give me a fucking break
Jul 16 01:28:30 <[]D> by the way pics are register... dont use it,,,
Jul 16 01:28:35 <Rehan> didn't geohot release the source code of his unlock?
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Jul 16 01:28:40 <FxChiP> tjcarter and sarah, I actually really have to disagree with you guys on this one point
Jul 16 01:28:53 <FxChiP> Rehan, yes, but he uses the same exploit as dev team with a different payload
Jul 16 01:29:02 <sarah>  FxChiP: it doesnt matter what you think
Jul 16 01:29:04 <iGuru> sarah, why would someone kill something they use? doesn't make much sense
Jul 16 01:29:07 <sarah>  FxChiP: its over
Jul 16 01:29:13 <FxChiP> sarah, funny, I seem to recall a certain channel owner telling me the same thing
Jul 16 01:29:20 <[]D> i just asked for 100 mill hugz,, wow what slap
Jul 16 01:29:20 <lilstevie> rehan on an already documented unlock
Jul 16 01:29:21 <therealduckie> tjcarter: do i have anything to gain from altering logs and have I ever stated that i hate sarah?
Jul 16 01:29:31 <FxChiP> But in any case, Apple is really doing a good job at squashing unlocks without "spies"
Jul 16 01:29:33 <Rehan> lilstevie: oh gotcha, thanks
Jul 16 01:29:40 <chronic> anyone wanna pastie the logs
Jul 16 01:29:48 <chronic> for some reason my browser hates pastebin
Jul 16 01:29:52 <sarah> FxChiP: this is different
Jul 16 01:29:55 <chronic> ill take a look, and compare with my logs
Jul 16 01:30:03 <Rehan> in soviet russia, pastebin hates your browser
Jul 16 01:30:05 <socalswimmer> FxChiP: or perhaps apple has coders that know what they are doing
Jul 16 01:30:07 <FxChiP> I don't see why "planting people" in the *public face* of the community, where exploits aren't even *discussed*, would kill the unlock
Jul 16 01:30:08 <sarah> FxChiP: but go with paige...i'm a fuckin cnt
Jul 16 01:30:16 <sarah> cunt*
Jul 16 01:30:20 <FxChiP> sarah, I'm not going with Paige, I'm saying it's unlikely she's an unlock-destroying plant
Jul 16 01:30:30 <therealduckie> Paige doesn't like that word, ergo doesn;t use it
Jul 16 01:30:33 <FxChiP> Apple does a fairly decent job of destroying unlocks on their own
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Jul 16 01:30:35 <sarah> i have been for the last 2 years 
Jul 16 01:30:37 <bluey-> is the new ultrasn0w relying mobilesubtrate?
Jul 16 01:30:40 <Zigtown> Paige is clearly not an unlock killer
Jul 16 01:30:48 <Paige> therealduckie, i did say that, i admit it
Jul 16 01:30:50 <sarah> believe what you want
Jul 16 01:30:55 <therealduckie> o snap
Jul 16 01:30:56 <Zigtown> she has been with the community since day one and ALWAYS helped
Jul 16 01:30:57 * sarah removes ban on *!*Bryn@if.it.wasnt.for.xp.we.would.still.be.using.me
Jul 16 01:31:06 <CPICH> bluey-: yes
Jul 16 01:31:13 <Zigtown> sarah where is your proof that she is who you say she is?
Jul 16 01:31:14 <sarah> of course paige good, sarah bad
Jul 16 01:31:27 <Zigtown> Im not saying your bad either
Jul 16 01:31:27 <sarah> i don't have prove anything
Jul 16 01:31:31 <therealduckie> sarah, no offense but - why are you playing victim?
Jul 16 01:31:32 <sarah> i just told you
Jul 16 01:31:32 <Zigtown> not in the least bit
Jul 16 01:31:35 <therealduckie> did i miss something?
Jul 16 01:31:43 <sarah> (s)he == good
Jul 16 01:31:44 <FxChiP> I never said Paige good
Jul 16 01:31:47 <sarah> sarah == bad
Jul 16 01:31:51 <FxChiP> I *never* said that
Jul 16 01:31:52 <Zigtown> but just saying things with no evidence is not how debates are won
Jul 16 01:31:58 <[]D> i dont cares refunds...$ never where my thoung with it.....now my hobbie was killed... for paranoia... jjezzz
Jul 16 01:32:00 <FxChiP> Like, seriously
Jul 16 01:32:19 <Zigtown> tjcarter what was the refund thing all about dude?
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Jul 16 01:32:55 <sarah> i acquiesce
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Jul 16 01:33:26 <therealduckie> sarah, why are you playing victim?  Did I miss something?  If you have been gone 15 hours, then why the 'whoa is me' routine the second you get in the chan?
Jul 16 01:33:28 <tjcarter> Zigtown: I apparently lied about selling an iPhone for $30
Jul 16 01:33:46 <therealduckie> and I am not being mean, I am seriously wondering
Jul 16 01:33:48 <Zigtown> and ctrlfreq requested a refund?
Jul 16 01:33:53 <FxChiP> yeah
Jul 16 01:33:53 <[]D> let me tell you some  i dont do codes.. i dont have aclue on hw.. what i know was learned here with nice helpy ppls... geo have the glory and what aver puple shipt he made.. i dont acre.. and i dont want it eather...now 3GS is nof way
Jul 16 01:33:54 <socalswimmer> tjcarter: can i buy an iphone for $30?
Jul 16 01:34:08 <socalswimmer> :D
Jul 16 01:34:19 <FxChiP> socalswimmer, I have a bridge I wanna sell you for $30
Jul 16 01:34:21 * prasys Leaving
Jul 16 01:34:24 <socalswimmer> ahh sick!
Jul 16 01:34:28 <FxChiP> lol
Jul 16 01:34:32 <tjcarter> Zigtown: He could've put any reason for the dispute he wanted.  He didn't have to accuse me of fraud.
Jul 16 01:34:32 <socalswimmer> whats your paypal?
Jul 16 01:34:33 <socalswimmer> :p
Jul 16 01:34:37 <Rehan> FxChiP: do you offer financing? the recession has been tough on me
Jul 16 01:34:45 <socalswimmer> haha redder 
Jul 16 01:34:45 <FxChiP> Rehan, lol
Jul 16 01:34:46 <socalswimmer> i mean Rehan 
Jul 16 01:34:48 <[]D> nah thanks.,, apple is not my style..
Jul 16 01:34:51 <FxChiP> Way to scam a scammer ;)
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Jul 16 01:34:52 * JailbreakServ gives voice to bryn
Jul 16 01:34:55 <socalswimmer> sorry redder 
Jul 16 01:34:56 <bryn> !devoice
Jul 16 01:34:56 * JailbreakServ removes voice from bryn
Jul 16 01:34:58 <Rehan> hahaa
Jul 16 01:35:07 <Rehan> wb bryn 
Jul 16 01:35:14 <socalswimmer> bryn: why you de voice yourself?
Jul 16 01:35:17 <sarah> bryn: you are back cuz i'm a bitch and removed your ban
Jul 16 01:35:30 <FxChiP> ofgs
Jul 16 01:35:36 <WaTdaHecK> cydia still doesnt load i re JB and format 
Jul 16 01:35:43 <WaTdaHecK> cydia network error
Jul 16 01:35:46 <bryn> sarah: meh.
Jul 16 01:35:50 <WaTdaHecK> but ican surf in safari
Jul 16 01:35:52 <sarah> lol
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Jul 16 01:35:58 <therealduckie> guys, I am sure many of you have a soft spot for sarah.  That's cool, but--seriously...when you come into a chan, play up the whole victim routine, make wild accuasations based on ZERO fact, fly off the fucking handle and ban people after whining about a fellow op who banned for no reason...that's a person with a serious issue.
Jul 16 01:36:17 <FxChiP> therealduckie, dude, shut up
Jul 16 01:36:18 <Zigtown> :O
Jul 16 01:36:19 <sarah> therealducky: we all know you hate me
Jul 16 01:36:27 <sarah> i've been logging for years
Jul 16 01:36:29 <therealduckie> but I don;t, sarah
Jul 16 01:36:32 <[]D> pls bann me now..  last kick in the but for good bye
Jul 16 01:36:32 <Rehan> hahaha
Jul 16 01:36:34 <therealduckie> I have zero hatred for anyone
Jul 16 01:36:44 <therealduckie> hatred is wasted energy
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Jul 16 01:36:46 <Zigtown> []D your not leaving
Jul 16 01:36:51 <Zigtown> your in it for the long haul!
Jul 16 01:36:52 <Zigtown> :P
Jul 16 01:36:54 <sarah> you and your crony..superdug
Jul 16 01:37:01 <FxChiP> superdug is my crony
Jul 16 01:37:09 <FxChiP> on account of he showed me the punching-in-the-nuts "porn"
Jul 16 01:37:09 <Zigtown> :O
Jul 16 01:37:10 * CPICH sets ban on *!*@190.79.18.189
Jul 16 01:37:13 <FxChiP> and I've never let him live it down since
Jul 16 01:37:13 <therealduckie> and if you have so called logs of my hatred, I would like everyone to see them, here in the chan, right now
Jul 16 01:37:14 <sarah> where is here...sleeping off 16 hours of saying shit about me?
Jul 16 01:37:16 <hoodie> Q: is superdug a girl?
Jul 16 01:37:20 * CPICH has kicked []D from #iphone (Requested)
Jul 16 01:37:29 <hoodie> does anyone know?
Jul 16 01:37:31 <tjcarter> lol CPICH
Jul 16 01:37:38 <FxChiP> superdug is a guy
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Jul 16 01:37:47 <lilstevie> you know what
Jul 16 01:37:47 <FxChiP> on account of he feels pain upon watching said "porn"
Jul 16 01:37:48 <sarah> of course he is
Jul 16 01:37:52 <lilstevie> like really know what
Jul 16 01:37:56 <h4ck> man
Jul 16 01:38:01 <h4ck> i gotta say
Jul 16 01:38:02 * lilstevie sets ban on *!*@lilstevie.com
Jul 16 01:38:02 * CPICH removes ban on *!*@190.79.18.189
Jul 16 01:38:05 <h4ck> pretty disappointed 
Jul 16 01:38:08 <FxChiP> lol
Jul 16 01:38:09 <FxChiP> here we go
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Jul 16 01:38:12 <sarah> as you should be
Jul 16 01:38:12 <FxChiP> let the bans fly
Jul 16 01:38:15 <hoodie> so that pic he pasted of the sort of nerdy girl he said was him... wasn't .. I guess
Jul 16 01:38:17 <therealduckie> wait wait, I have a crony named superdug now?  I dont even know the guy lol
Jul 16 01:38:22 * Z00L is now known as Z00L|NotHere
Jul 16 01:38:27 <therealduckie> sarah, you're seriously grasping at straws
Jul 16 01:38:28 <FxChiP> therealduckie, I already told you, he's my crony
Jul 16 01:38:28 <Paige> and apparently you are the only person in this room who is allowed to be a female.
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Jul 16 01:38:44 <Z00L|NotHere> i could be a female...wait...wut??
Jul 16 01:38:48 <FxChiP> troll troll is troll
Jul 16 01:38:53 <sarah> Paige: i know your male
Jul 16 01:38:55 <Paige> any other female must be a guy right?
Jul 16 01:38:57 <hoodie> there is no female... there is only Z00L
Jul 16 01:38:59 <sarah> or lesbian
Jul 16 01:39:05 * Z00L|NotHere pats hoodie ;)
Jul 16 01:39:06 <sarah> just by what you say
Jul 16 01:39:07 <therealduckie> are you completely off your rocker, sarah?
Jul 16 01:39:08 <FxChiP> sarah, Paige is lesbian
Jul 16 01:39:09 <planetbeing> Wow, as amusing as all of this is, maybe we should get back on topic.
Jul 16 01:39:17 * tom (tom@cpe-204-210-101-80.hawaii.res.rr.com) has joined #iphone
Jul 16 01:39:19 <FxChiP> sarah, I've lamented this at length
Jul 16 01:39:20 <planetbeing> I just had to help someone over PM because this channel is useless.
Jul 16 01:39:25 <Paige> yes, i am a lesbian and i am proud of my diversity
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Jul 16 01:39:35 <FxChiP> Paige, do you live in MA or CA?
Jul 16 01:39:38 <FxChiP> er
Jul 16 01:39:38 <sarah> FxChiP: i don't care about your lementing
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Jul 16 01:39:46 <sarah> FxChiP: its over
Jul 16 01:39:49 <FxChiP> is that state abbreviation on?
Jul 16 01:39:52 <FxChiP> oh well
Jul 16 01:39:53 <tom> good to have rotation inhibitor back :)
Jul 16 01:39:54 <disturbed> I've seen less drama in a high school
Jul 16 01:40:13 <tom> any updates to the status of voipover3g
Jul 16 01:40:20 <therealduckie> no, tom
Jul 16 01:40:23 <tom> or threegtricker
Jul 16 01:40:24 <sarah> you wont see any more drama, its over
Jul 16 01:40:34 <FxChiP> why do I have this feeling it's totally not
Jul 16 01:40:39 <Rehan> tom: rotation inhibitor works now?
Jul 16 01:40:40 <hoodie> feelings hurt... but this channel is/has always been tame compared to the 9yroldsavages I've seen in irc elsewhere
Jul 16 01:40:42 <tom> dang
Jul 16 01:40:46 <Zigtown> what about logome? anyone hear when thats coming out?
Jul 16 01:40:50 <FxChiP> hoodie, those channels are *fun*
Jul 16 01:40:52 <tom> yes rotationinhibutor is a go!!
Jul 16 01:41:05 <Rehan> sweeeeet
Jul 16 01:41:08 <tom> just installed it on my 3gS and its money!
Jul 16 01:41:08 <disturbed> Sarah: I've heard that a thousand times or more..
Jul 16 01:41:09 <FxChiP> I don't know *what's* keeping this channel from degrading into a flooding trollathon
Jul 16 01:41:09 <hoodie> like ##mac on freenode... freakin circus sometimes
Jul 16 01:41:11 <therealduckie> "Paige is a guy, I know it"  umm...I have seen multiple pics of Paige and she is very much a woman...and a hott one at that.
Jul 16 01:41:21 <therealduckie> She also has a history online that preddates ALL of you
Jul 16 01:41:21 <Rehan> pics or it didn't happen
Jul 16 01:41:26 <Paige> therealduckie, hardly hot but thank you anyway
Jul 16 01:41:27 <therealduckie> so google MF's...use it
Jul 16 01:41:29 <sarah> FxChiP: think you for reinforcing what i already know
Jul 16 01:41:44 <FxChiP> what did I reinforce?
Jul 16 01:41:47 <FxChiP> Paige, what state
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Jul 16 01:41:59 <Paige> FxChiP, originally from california
Jul 16 01:42:03 <Paige> petaluma
Jul 16 01:42:15 <Zigtown> pics of Paige!!!?:O:O I wanna seee!!!!
Jul 16 01:42:16 <Zigtown> haha
Jul 16 01:42:18 <FxChiP> Paige, 'cause afaik same-sex marriage is only legal in like two states
Jul 16 01:42:18 <FxChiP> haha
Jul 16 01:42:18 <tom> u friends with leo lepotr paige
Jul 16 01:42:19 <h4ck> PICS OR DIDN'T HAPPEN
Jul 16 01:42:20 <tom> lol
Jul 16 01:42:27 <Paige> 5 states
Jul 16 01:42:29 <Zigtown> same sex is like in 5
Jul 16 01:42:30 <FxChiP> five?
Jul 16 01:42:32 <FxChiP> okay
Jul 16 01:42:33 <FxChiP> fair enough
Jul 16 01:42:34 <Zigtown> fuck you beat me to it ha
Jul 16 01:42:38 <FxChiP> shows how up to date I am
Jul 16 01:43:01 <Zigtown> I thought hot lesbians were only on internet sites:S
Jul 16 01:43:04 <tom> leo leport is from snall town petaluma.. nice place!!!
Jul 16 01:43:04 <Paige> even Iowa, in the middle of the country voted for it
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Jul 16 01:43:36 <sarah> bring it on guys...prove me right by talking about sex and drugs
Jul 16 01:43:40 <sarah> you can do it!
Jul 16 01:43:41 <Zigtown> ?
Jul 16 01:43:46 <FxChiP> so guys
Jul 16 01:43:49 <FxChiP> how about that Metallica
Jul 16 01:43:49 <therealduckie> so the other day I was shooting smack
Jul 16 01:43:53 <Zigtown> sarah: what the hell are you talking about?
Jul 16 01:43:56 <FxChiP> fuck you therealduckie 
Jul 16 01:43:57 <FxChiP> Metallica > Smack
Jul 16 01:44:07 * Wilco (Wilco@93-172-172-179.bb.netvision.net.il) has joined #iphone
Jul 16 01:44:08 <FxChiP> And * > Metallica
Jul 16 01:44:14 <Zigtown> metallica blows......every song sounds the same
Jul 16 01:44:14 <therealduckie> Rick Astley > Metallica
Jul 16 01:44:17 <Wilco> sup guys
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Jul 16 01:44:23 <Zigtown> their like nickleback
Jul 16 01:44:29 <FxChiP> Zigtown, hence my second comparison
Jul 16 01:44:31 <Rehan> instead of kicking people, can we just rick roll them?
Jul 16 01:44:33 <therealduckie> sup Wilco - we're sharing sex, drugs and rock and roll stories
Jul 16 01:44:34 <CPICH> shudup!!!! Jonas Bros >>>> *
Jul 16 01:44:34 <FxChiP> Also, Nickelback is not that bad
Jul 16 01:44:41 <Wilco> can anyone confirm ultrasn0w 0.9 is ok? should i remove 0.8 before installing 0.9 ?
Jul 16 01:44:42 <FxChiP> CPICH
Jul 16 01:44:43 <FxChiP> no
Jul 16 01:44:46 <therealduckie> o shi--CPICH wins
Jul 16 01:44:50 <FxChiP> Jonas Bros needs to get shitkicked by Metallica
Jul 16 01:44:55 <CPICH> \o/
Jul 16 01:45:01 <FxChiP> throw them in the mosh pit
Jul 16 01:45:03 <chronic> ok, now that this shit has gotten to the point that someone just asked an iphone question and was totally igonored, i know that there is no way it's going back. this chan has gone to hell, and will never recover. pce all
Jul 16 01:45:03 <Zigtown> Wilco go for it man your good
Jul 16 01:45:04 <FxChiP> maybe they won't come back out alive
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Jul 16 01:45:18 <Zigtown> I answered it!
Jul 16 01:45:26 <FxChiP> he did answer it
Jul 16 01:45:29 <FxChiP> but that's okay
Jul 16 01:45:31 <FxChiP> folks don't care
Jul 16 01:45:31 <Zigtown> silly chronic....trix are for kids
Jul 16 01:45:35 <Wilco> can someone ask the iphone_dev team guys to keep OLD releases of ultrasn0w somehwere that we can install manually?
Jul 16 01:45:42 <disturbed> wilco: I'm using it just fine right now
Jul 16 01:45:43 <bryn> Wilco: Why?
Jul 16 01:45:50 <bryn> 0.9 is current.
Jul 16 01:45:50 <FxChiP> Wilco, why would you need the older ones, the new ones fix bugs
Jul 16 01:45:51 <therealduckie> silly kids - chronic is for kicks
Jul 16 01:45:52 <Zigtown> ya Wilco there would be no need
Jul 16 01:45:53 <bryn> No need to go back.
Jul 16 01:45:59 * FxChiP thwacks therealduckie 
Jul 16 01:45:59 <planetbeing> Wilco: I can confirm it works on at least three dev team members' phones. :P
Jul 16 01:46:09 <Zigtown> they don't rush releases they throughouly test them before reales theem
Jul 16 01:46:10 <Wilco> well i rememver that  in the yellowsnow days version 0.1-till 0.6 never worked for me
Jul 16 01:46:11 * therealduckie enjoys a good thwacking
Jul 16 01:46:19 <planetbeing> Installing 0.9 should automatically uninstall 0.8.
Jul 16 01:46:22 <Wilco> then they releasewd something that worked and then released something that did not work :)
Jul 16 01:46:26 <Wilco> i had to install from backup
Jul 16 01:46:33 <Wilco> i found some nice guy on the web that kept all those .deb files
Jul 16 01:46:42 <therealduckie> lol Zigtown unlike other people, amirite? eh eh?
Jul 16 01:46:46 <Zigtown> Wilco....in case you didn't know planetbeing is a dev team member
Jul 16 01:46:53 <planetbeing> Wilco: Yeah, it wasn't until 0.9.6 that we had that loader.
Jul 16 01:46:53 <Wilco> ok
Jul 16 01:46:53 <FxChiP> therealduckie, shut up
Jul 16 01:46:59 <Zigtown> that's what I was getting at therealduckie haha
Jul 16 01:47:04 <Zigtown> stir the pot.....polk the bear
Jul 16 01:47:05 <Zigtown> hahaha
Jul 16 01:47:07 <tjcarter> planetbeing: keeping old debs around isn't a bad idea
Jul 16 01:47:10 <Zigtown> poke*
Jul 16 01:47:17 <therealduckie> Polka Bear?
Jul 16 01:47:20 * therealduckie dances
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Jul 16 01:47:25 <FxChiP> cocks
Jul 16 01:47:27 <Wilco> planetbeing:  i just beg you please keep old versions a side so if something bad happens and my wacky sim does not work the other version will let us use the phone.
Jul 16 01:47:30 <planetbeing> Someone else can keep track of them.
Jul 16 01:47:33 <therealduckie> everywhere
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Jul 16 01:47:34 <Zigtown> therealduckie got anymore sweet themes?
Jul 16 01:47:37 * occ (occ@c-24-91-75-159.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #iphone
Jul 16 01:47:45 <therealduckie> only LeopardUI 2.0, Zigtown 
Jul 16 01:47:47 <planetbeing> It's not like they're lost forever.
Jul 16 01:47:52 <therealduckie> also LeopardUI for SBS
Jul 16 01:48:00 <sarah> tjcarter: respect old devs? why?
Jul 16 01:48:02 <Zigtown> and thats not a bad one at all therealduckie :)
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Jul 16 01:48:18 <therealduckie> Allen from PlanetIphones emailed me about an hour ago saying LeopardUI 2 will be on his repo soon
Jul 16 01:48:20 <Zigtown> theres her 2 cents again......:|
Jul 16 01:48:28 <therealduckie> thanks, Zigtown 
Jul 16 01:48:33 <Wilco> planetbeing:  is itunes 8.2.1 safe?
Jul 16 01:48:34 <planetbeing> Wilco: which version that worked and didn't work?
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Jul 16 01:48:44 <sarah> tjcarter: as soon as you don't give you deserve to be treated like shit...oh yeah...gehot keeps giving
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Jul 16 01:48:51 <FxChiP> sarah, he said keep old debs around 
Jul 16 01:48:52 <sarah> use his hack but diss him
Jul 16 01:48:54 <sarah> nice!
Jul 16 01:48:55 <FxChiP> not respect old devs :/
Jul 16 01:48:56 <Paige> 8.2.1 is safe as long as you do not have a palm pre
Jul 16 01:49:03 <planetbeing> Err, installing .debs on your iPhone usually won't depend on what iTunes version you have unless the .deb is really fucked up.
Jul 16 01:49:08 <therealduckie> Zigtown: I made the theme while crapping, doing drugs, drinking, listening to rock-n-roll, and banging a hooker
Jul 16 01:49:16 <Zigtown> wow
Jul 16 01:49:17 <wrath> sarah, you come in here, and all you do is stir the shit up. you say it's over, then go on about it all the time. If you want the shit to die down how about you stop stiring it?
Jul 16 01:49:26 <sarah> FxChiP: thy don't deserve respect?
Jul 16 01:49:31 <FxChiP> I never said they don't
Jul 16 01:49:33 <Wilco> planetbeing:  i think that 0.9.5 did not work and then 0.9.6 worked and then you released something after it that fixes t-mobile and it stopped working and then u had the final release
Jul 16 01:49:33 <planetbeing> Although I am curious whether purplera1n will still work on 8.2.1... I think geohot used some static offsets or something.
Jul 16 01:49:36 <Zigtown> sounds like a little bit of a higher tech version of californication therealduckie haha
Jul 16 01:49:40 <FxChiP> I'm telling you that something you say he said is not what he said
Jul 16 01:49:47 <FxChiP> Is EVERYTHING a sign of disrespect?
Jul 16 01:49:49 <CPICH> planetbeing: take it to PM, this channel sucks monkey ass
Jul 16 01:49:50 <CPICH> lol
Jul 16 01:49:54 <planetbeing> Wilco: Did something after 0.9.6 stop working for you?
Jul 16 01:49:55 <Wilco> planetbeing:  all im saying, remember that many people depend on ultrasn0w - a backup of the old version would be nice. 
Jul 16 01:49:59 <Paige> planetbeing, it worked fine when i did it today
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Jul 16 01:50:04 <Wilco> planetbeing:  - nope - works perfectly
Jul 16 01:50:07 <planetbeing> CPICH: Let's try to RAISE the standard of debate rather than abandoning ship. Besides, I hate PM. =P
Jul 16 01:50:11 <FxChiP> brb
Jul 16 01:50:11 <hoodie> having really thick skin is just a mask for being disrespectful
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Jul 16 01:50:21 <WaTdaHecK> why i cant connect to cydia? i restore and re JB my phone
Jul 16 01:50:25 <WaTdaHecK> i can surf in safari
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Jul 16 01:50:41 <Zigtown> WaTdaHecK I like your name haha
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Jul 16 01:50:48 <prasys> thanks bryn 
Jul 16 01:50:50 <prasys> I'll fix it asap
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Jul 16 01:50:57 <WaTdaHecK> unable to connect (timed out)
Jul 16 01:51:03 <WaTdaHecK> in cydia
Jul 16 01:51:03 <hoodie> WaTdaHecK: just try again
Jul 16 01:51:05 <therealduckie> watda: try Cydia again later
Jul 16 01:51:13 <therealduckie> I just tried Cydia and it times out
Jul 16 01:51:16 * wrath has quit (Quit: Keep this up and the channel will end up going the way of the dodo...)
Jul 16 01:51:17 <WaTdaHecK> its been 24 hours
Jul 16 01:51:20 <therealduckie> I am sure it is temporary
Jul 16 01:51:29 <WaTdaHecK> hayzzz
Jul 16 01:51:41 <WaTdaHecK> ur cydia working?
Jul 16 01:51:41 <FxChiP> back
Jul 16 01:51:46 <Paige> could be a local thing, cydia just loaded here 
Jul 16 01:51:58 <WaTdaHecK> i think its local thing
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Jul 16 01:52:01 <occ> yo
Jul 16 01:52:02 <WaTdaHecK> in my country
Jul 16 01:52:05 <hoodie> WaTdaHecK: it hasn't been down 24 hours. Just give a try later.
Jul 16 01:52:16 <FxChiP> random ass server glitch
Jul 16 01:52:17 <Zigtown> http://is.gd/1ALMr    <---sounds like a fun app
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Jul 16 01:52:22 <WaTdaHecK> what seems to be the problem
Jul 16 01:52:24 <Zigtown> ^^sounds like a fun app
Jul 16 01:52:30 <therealduckie> is.gd links frighten me
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Jul 16 01:52:35 <planetbeing> Wilco: I can only advise that you back up the .deb yourself, since us keeping it will only confuse the majority of people.
Jul 16 01:52:46 <Zigtown> it's ok therealduckie
Jul 16 01:52:49 <matt> therealduckie: add a - to the end of it and you can see what it will forward to
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Jul 16 01:52:53 <Paige> haha, a harry potter app!
Jul 16 01:53:04 <Zigtown> yes Paige ha;)
Jul 16 01:53:07 * therealduckie always expects tubgirl
Jul 16 01:53:11 <Zigtown> :O
Jul 16 01:53:19 <Zigtown> I just threw up in my mouth
Jul 16 01:53:24 <planetbeing> Wilco: I can provide it if you need it, but I don't think keeping it around in the Cydia repo is a good idea.
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Jul 16 01:53:31 <therealduckie> Zigtown: so did she
Jul 16 01:53:34 <Zigtown> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8384/picture8ddp.png
Jul 16 01:53:35 <socalswimmer> guys, the channel will not stop being good just because some people get mad at each other
Jul 16 01:53:37 <therealduckie> ALLOT
Jul 16 01:53:39 <socalswimmer> even if those people are important
Jul 16 01:53:41 <bryn> therealduckie: More like 2 Girls 1 Cup
Jul 16 01:53:53 <occ> yo that meme is still funny
Jul 16 01:53:56 <occ> (not really)
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Jul 16 01:54:01 <Zigtown> meme?
Jul 16 01:54:06 <therealduckie> google meme
Jul 16 01:54:14 <occ> yup, i study memetics
Jul 16 01:54:24 <Wilco> planetbeing:  that would be great. i too think putting old version in cydia is not a good idea. just dump it on a web site so if shigt happens people can manaully get it and dkpg the file on he iphone. 
Jul 16 01:54:26 <therealduckie> I study mammatics
Jul 16 01:54:30 <Paige> isnt meme of 4chan origin?
Jul 16 01:54:39 <therealduckie> not really, no, Paige 
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Jul 16 01:54:46 <Paige> k
Jul 16 01:54:53 <Wilco> ok
Jul 16 01:54:53 <Paige> welcome back prasys 
Jul 16 01:55:00 <Wilco> im gonna try 0.9 - hold your butts!
Jul 16 01:55:11 <therealduckie> Wilco: nohomo?
Jul 16 01:55:11 <hoodie> 4chan starts meme's, sure... but I don't think they coined the word meme
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Jul 16 01:55:30 <Wilco> therealduckie:  obviously you did not see Jurassic Park
Jul 16 01:55:31 <prasys> Paige, thanks
Jul 16 01:55:33 <therealduckie> encyclopediadramatica can probably tell you who started the word meme
Jul 16 01:55:34 <prasys> i am testing out my bouncer 
Jul 16 01:55:41 <prasys> its bloody annoyign when it spams leaving whenever i quit 
Jul 16 01:55:45 <FxChiP> well
Jul 16 01:55:47 <Paige> how are you this morning prasys?
Jul 16 01:55:48 <FxChiP> that calmed things down a lot
Jul 16 01:55:54 <tjcarter> w00t
Jul 16 01:55:57 <tjcarter> I now have GV
Jul 16 01:55:59 <FxChiP> fucking christ
Jul 16 01:56:04 <tjcarter> they got to me pretty quickly
Jul 16 01:56:13 <Zigtown> GV?
Jul 16 01:56:17 <bryn> GV?
Jul 16 01:56:20 <prasys> pretty good , Paige 
Jul 16 01:56:21 <matt> google voice ?
Jul 16 01:56:21 <Paige> google voice
Jul 16 01:56:24 <tjcarter> It looks like people will honestly have it in the next week or two if they signed up
Jul 16 01:56:27 <prasys> and hows things over there Paige
Jul 16 01:56:32 <therealduckie> tjcarter: you de-opped?
Jul 16 01:56:32 * bryn signs up
Jul 16 01:56:36 <tjcarter> matt: yes
Jul 16 01:56:44 <tjcarter> duckie: I'm done playing
Jul 16 01:56:46 <occ> meme goes back to the 70s
Jul 16 01:56:53 <occ> its erm...richard dawkins, i think
Jul 16 01:56:53 <Zigtown> http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/07/search-with-my-location-for-iphone-30.html
Jul 16 01:56:55 <therealduckie> tjcarter: understood
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Jul 16 01:57:12 <bryn> Please note that Google Voice is only available for sign up in the US.
Jul 16 01:57:13 <therealduckie> <3 Dawkins
Jul 16 01:57:18 <Paige> prasys not too bad. it has cooled off finally. was pretty warm today
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Jul 16 01:57:22 <Paige> you?
Jul 16 01:57:25 <Zigtown> Brian Dawkins?
Jul 16 01:57:43 <therealduckie> Leroy jenkins?
Jul 16 01:57:44 <occ> nah, richard dawkins
Jul 16 01:57:48 <occ> the in-YO-FACE atheist
Jul 16 01:57:57 <therealduckie> lol richard Dawkins hit on MILFs for a living
Jul 16 01:58:04 <prasys> heh thats good Paige 
Jul 16 01:58:07 <therealduckie> I mean Dawson
Jul 16 01:58:13 <therealduckie> Richard Dawson
Jul 16 01:58:16 <occ> the game show host?
Jul 16 01:58:16 * Alberto (Albertas@conceited-9C0EF679.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #iphone
Jul 16 01:58:18 <FxChiP> http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1
Jul 16 01:58:21 <therealduckie> mhmm, occ
Jul 16 01:58:25 <tjcarter> duckie: the little fraud thing made it clear that there's a vendetta that will continue as long as I continue to be any kind of op, halfop, whatever.  It'll probably continue despite this, but for the good of the channel, I don't need channel access.  It's there if there's an ACTUAL attack on the channel, but day to day stuff, I'm done.
Jul 16 01:58:25 <FxChiP> Speaking of Richard Dawkins
Jul 16 01:58:27 <FxChiP> :)
Jul 16 01:58:30 <occ> i dunno, hes no chuck barris
Jul 16 01:58:30 <therealduckie> that man got 'tang haha
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Jul 16 01:58:41 <therealduckie> Chuck was my kind of nuts
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Jul 16 01:58:46 <hoodie> tjcarter: you're not going away, are you?
Jul 16 01:58:47 <Alberto> hello everybody
Jul 16 01:58:53 <occ> the consummate host remains bob barker, though
Jul 16 01:58:56 <Alberto> I have a question
Jul 16 01:59:08 <occ> any man who can remain desired by women in old age = THE man
Jul 16 01:59:21 <hoodie> Alberto: ask plz
Jul 16 01:59:21 <tjcarter> hoodie: that's not decided yet.  Frankly, people not able to get support here doesn't bode well for me staying.
Jul 16 01:59:25 <Paige> grr. still no gv invites
Jul 16 01:59:27 <therealduckie> tjcarter: I missed all that I guess when I was out of power today for 9 hours (due to tornadoes)
Jul 16 01:59:30 <Alberto> should I use the new ultrasn0w 0.9 or the purplesn0w rc2?
Jul 16 01:59:33 <tjcarter> therealduckie: Sherwood, OR
Jul 16 01:59:38 <tjcarter> er, feck
Jul 16 01:59:41 <tjcarter> mispaste
Jul 16 01:59:42 <occ> Al: Nope.
Jul 16 01:59:48 <planetbeing> What improvements does purplesn0w rc2 make?
Jul 16 01:59:55 <CPICH> Alberto: check the blogs and make your own choice
Jul 16 01:59:57 <tjcarter> therealduckie: http://pastie.org/547567
Jul 16 02:00:03 <hoodie> tjcarter: maybe I can help you. you ever heard of Amnesty International?
Jul 16 02:00:05 <occ> it offers a skinnable interface
Jul 16 02:00:10 <therealduckie> planetbeing: he added a new pic of himself - this time in a Hummer with girls
Jul 16 02:00:13 <occ> and "push" technology
Jul 16 02:00:20 <planetbeing> Oh, hmm.
Jul 16 02:00:30 <iGuru3GS> it actually works now planetbeing, for redsn0w users too
Jul 16 02:00:34 <therealduckie> k, tjcarter 
Jul 16 02:00:40 <tjcarter> Alberto: purplesn0w doesn't actually save you any battery, and the most common wifi problem is Apple's bug
Jul 16 02:00:58 <Alberto> I`m using ultrasn0w, but is there any advantage by using purplesn0w?
Jul 16 02:01:11 <tjcarter> Alberto: if ultra works, don't screw with it.
Jul 16 02:01:19 <planetbeing> I avoid geohot's blog because it's kind of annoying.
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Jul 16 02:01:26 <hoodie> yes... with purplesn0w you will be unencumberes by support
Jul 16 02:01:28 <occ> whats the url, planet?
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Jul 16 02:01:36 <hoodie> *unencumbered
Jul 16 02:01:39 <Zigtown> tjcarter what was the amount refunded?
Jul 16 02:01:41 <iGuru3GS> not now, just grab the latest ultra if you haven't already
Jul 16 02:01:44 <tjcarter> purple's a bit cleaner, but geo's stuff usually winds up being a pretty brutal hack
Jul 16 02:01:49 <Paige> what fraud?
Jul 16 02:01:50 <tjcarter> Zigtown: full amount paid
Jul 16 02:01:54 * FxChiP shakes head
Jul 16 02:02:01 <Zigtown> which was what tjcarter?
Jul 16 02:02:07 <tjcarter> Zigtown: $30
Jul 16 02:02:11 <CPICH> occ: nothing enable push technology, it works as it is
Jul 16 02:02:12 <Zigtown> geez
Jul 16 02:02:19 * tjcarter is apparently selling iPhones for $30
Jul 16 02:02:24 <silent_pr> my 3gs i got today was free plus i got like 6 bucks out of it :D
Jul 16 02:02:26 <bryn> orly?
Jul 16 02:02:30 <Alberto> ok, thanks for advice
Jul 16 02:02:31 <bryn> tjcarter: I'll have 3!
Jul 16 02:02:33 <occ> CPI: that was meant as a joke, referencing an old-ass thing...then i remembered apple's brought back the term, heh
Jul 16 02:02:39 <tjcarter> bryn: shit me too
Jul 16 02:02:45 <occ> i was thinking of that cheesy screensaver-based push crap from the 90s
Jul 16 02:02:51 <Paige> oh i heard something about that today from someone. not sure who it was though
Jul 16 02:02:58 <therealduckie> silent_pr: ?  is that a joke and you're trying to get someone to ask you how so you can spam a link?
Jul 16 02:03:00 <bryn> tjcarter: Sorry dude, i like you and that. But i aint shitting on you.
Jul 16 02:03:01 <planetbeing> * 3G(the network speed) issues fixed
Jul 16 02:03:06 <planetbeing> Heh, he actually broke that somehow?
Jul 16 02:03:18 <Paige> something about a $30 donation for a "help me buy an iphone" being withdrawn?
Jul 16 02:03:18 <therealduckie> haha
Jul 16 02:03:26 <occ> iphones for $30?
Jul 16 02:03:30 <occ> id take one
Jul 16 02:03:34 <occ> ...i GUESS.
Jul 16 02:03:36 <planetbeing> * Leaves no traces on your baseband after it runs. Seriously
Jul 16 02:03:37 <tjcarter> planetbeing: didn't I just say geo's stuff tends to be pretty brutal hack?
Jul 16 02:03:40 <planetbeing> ^ That part's interesting.
Jul 16 02:03:42 <bryn> I'm broke as fuck right now, but i dont think i could request a donation back lol
Jul 16 02:03:48 <hoodie> tjcarter: you know I was alluding do the candle/darkness meme earlier, right? You'll get over stuff, and the greater good will have you like the matrix or something.
Jul 16 02:03:57 <hoodie> alluding to*
Jul 16 02:04:01 <planetbeing> He can't be still using his fuck-over-one-eighth-of-baseband-memory rick.
Jul 16 02:04:14 <occ> why would people donate to someone's "buy me a fone" fund?
Jul 16 02:04:26 <Paige> beats me
Jul 16 02:04:27 <occ> how they gon' afford service?
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Jul 16 02:04:32 <occ> donate that too?
Jul 16 02:04:35 <therealduckie> occ, because tjcarter is blind IRL and needed a 3G[s] for the voice technology
Jul 16 02:04:41 <bryn> occ: Unlocked iphone
Jul 16 02:04:42 <tjcarter> occ: because I've been helping people unlock them for two years, and the new one has accessibility features
Jul 16 02:05:03 <tjcarter> occ: Octothorpe's idea actually
Jul 16 02:05:05 <occ> ahh
Jul 16 02:05:08 <CPICH> 3gs also has negative feature :)
Jul 16 02:05:18 <occ> well, now i feel like a dick for semi-poking-of-fun
Jul 16 02:05:21 <tjcarter> CPICH: I won't use that  =)
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Jul 16 02:05:24 <occ> thats low, guys ;)
Jul 16 02:05:25 <Paige> oh man, i didnt know you were blind tjcarter, sorry to hear that :(
Jul 16 02:05:31 <therealduckie> it divides by zero, CPICH ?
Jul 16 02:05:41 * h4ck is working on a spreadsheet! YAY!
Jul 16 02:05:44 <CPICH> therealduckie: lolwut?
Jul 16 02:05:45 <Zigtown> CPICH I actually used that as a "theme" for 2 weeks before the jailbreak was released ha
Jul 16 02:05:46 <tjcarter> people who don't understand blindness usually are
Jul 16 02:05:46 <occ> how much you got in the kitty?
Jul 16 02:05:59 * tjcarter is baffled by this
Jul 16 02:06:22 <CPICH> Zigtown: cool
Jul 16 02:06:30 <therealduckie> I am deaf in one ear and everyone says sorry to me then gives me the "cancer Face"
Jul 16 02:06:37 <occ> hehe
Jul 16 02:06:41 <tjcarter> occ: it was somewhere around $1000
Jul 16 02:06:48 <Paige> i do understand disabilities though, i was about killed in an accident almost 7 years ago and have perm spinal damage
Jul 16 02:06:49 <tjcarter> occ: it's pretty well covered
Jul 16 02:07:06 <occ> heh, i was gonna say "i could spare a few bucks"...you rich bastard
Jul 16 02:07:29 <occ> i need to get phone service...like tomorrow
Jul 16 02:07:34 <occ> ive been disconnected for a week now
Jul 16 02:07:50 <iGuru3GS> Paige, did you used to hang out on OSx86Scene IRC?
Jul 16 02:08:02 <Zigtown> :D
Jul 16 02:08:08 <Zigtown> osx86 <3
Jul 16 02:08:18 <occ> if you dont mind my asking, tj, what kinda output do you get from irc?
Jul 16 02:08:28 <tjcarter> occ: crap, total crap.
Jul 16 02:08:43 <tjcarter> OH, you mean how do I read it
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Jul 16 02:08:57 <occ> yeah, like is it audio, or something hi-tek ive never heard of?
Jul 16 02:09:08 <tjcarter> very large print at very close distances.  I can't afford Braille, and voice output for IRC SUCKS.
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Jul 16 02:09:12 <hoodie> tjcarter: ...anyway... its a nice metaphore... I hope you stick around. But if you disappear, thanks, you know... for being ... for the 2 years and stuff.
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Jul 16 02:09:35 <therealduckie> tjcarter: you know how they always say they're sorry to you?  I bet the next most common thing they do is ask if you have better hearing. lol
Jul 16 02:09:50 <occ> would a braille device like...im picturing the dots moving up and down hitting the fingertips
Jul 16 02:10:12 <therealduckie> occ: yeah, it;s a box with pins
Jul 16 02:11:04 <occ> interesting
Jul 16 02:11:12 <occ> you should scam medicare for that ;)
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Jul 16 02:12:00 <therealduckie> lol - 5 minutes ago occ was all "Man, why you trying to beat the system and get people to pay for your iPhone?" and now he's all "man, you should totally rip off the govt!"
Jul 16 02:12:00 <WaTdaHecK> Fu*k still no luck...cant connect to cydia..
Jul 16 02:12:03 <Wilco> Ok - ultrasn0w 0.9 works - but GPS is not working. anyone can confirm that?
Jul 16 02:12:22 <Wilco> Google Maps and other apps i have say - location cannot be determinted. Location services is ON.
Jul 16 02:12:24 <WaTdaHecK> caced faile..unable to connect
Jul 16 02:12:30 <WaTdaHecK> timed out
Jul 16 02:12:32 <tjcarter> duckie: next most common is to tell me what a great job I'm doing...  just walking or something.
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Jul 16 02:12:41 <Paige> WaTdaHecK, what happens when you try to traceroute to cydia?
Jul 16 02:12:43 <occ> yup, its almost like i take shots at everything ;)
Jul 16 02:12:57 <therealduckie> tjcarter: ask them for the keys to their car
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Jul 16 02:13:23 <RR> Hello
Jul 16 02:13:25 <therealduckie> when they stutter tell them "Well, you just comlimented my walking"
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Jul 16 02:13:28 <bryn> hey RR
Jul 16 02:13:31 <planetbeing> Wilco: GPS works for me on T-mobile...
Jul 16 02:13:31 <occ> that said, i dont think its quite ripping off the gov't...i mean, damn, our tax dollars should go to stuff like that
Jul 16 02:13:32 <therealduckie> *compliemtned
Jul 16 02:13:33 <matt> considering how much our government steals from my wage every month, im quite happy to scam the bastards
Jul 16 02:13:38 <planetbeing> Though I have no data plan, so I have to use wi-fi.
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Jul 16 02:13:45 <Wilco> im on wifi
Jul 16 02:13:46 <occ> i do get state healthcare, that said
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Jul 16 02:13:52 <Wilco> with an Israeli Orange SIM
Jul 16 02:13:52 <bryn> matt: Right on :)
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Jul 16 02:13:55 <therealduckie> occ, it's MY job in this chan to hate everything
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Jul 16 02:14:07 <occ> hehe
Jul 16 02:14:14 <Wilco> does ultrasn0w has anything to do with GPS?
Jul 16 02:14:14 <matt> they dont call them Her Majesty's Robbers and Cheats for nothing
Jul 16 02:14:20 <planetbeing> Wilco: No, not really.
Jul 16 02:14:25 <Wilco> yeah - i though so
Jul 16 02:14:30 * RR is afraid to fly. :-(
Jul 16 02:14:31 <occ> see, i could apply for welfare, but i dont
Jul 16 02:14:33 <occ> so there
Jul 16 02:14:41 <occ> that would really piss off conservatives
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Jul 16 02:14:50 <Wilco> i did not try GPS since i upgraded to version 3.0.... what do you guys recommend to check/?
Jul 16 02:15:06 <therealduckie> occ, only if you;re black - then Hannity will come after you followed by Beck and Limbaugh
Jul 16 02:15:21 <occ> heh, id own them all in a debate
Jul 16 02:15:28 <therealduckie> ditto
Jul 16 02:15:31 <therealduckie> pun intended
Jul 16 02:15:31 <occ> beck is at least funny
Jul 16 02:15:38 <therealduckie> beck is bat shit insane
Jul 16 02:15:39 <occ> hannity's stupid, and rush is predictable
Jul 16 02:15:42 <occ> haha, he really is
Jul 16 02:15:49 <Paige> why are you afraid to fly rr?
Jul 16 02:15:51 <Wilco> planetbeing:  look at your blogs - this guy has the same problem:
Jul 16 02:15:51 <therealduckie> and the BAD kind of bat shit insane
Jul 16 02:15:54 <Wilco> "Well, whenever I install Ultrasn0w, GPS dies and refuses to locate. If I uninstall Ultrasn0w, GPS/locate works again but I can't get a signal. S'wonderful 
Jul 16 02:15:54 <Wilco> "
Jul 16 02:16:01 <occ> i saw him once when he had a gues on...an economics professor...who happened to be named "james stewart"
Jul 16 02:16:04 <therealduckie> like Burroughs was my kind of bat shit insane 0 that I liked
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Jul 16 02:16:13 <occ> and beck kept pointing out that his name was jimmy stewart, and doing the voice
Jul 16 02:16:16 <therealduckie> but Beck - he's just dangerous
Jul 16 02:16:18 <WaTdaHecK> my cydia keeps quitting and cant connect!!netwrok error..but i can surf in safari
Jul 16 02:16:19 <occ> the guy was not amused
Jul 16 02:16:21 <RR> Paige: All that planes exploding and falling down the sky the last 3 months.
Jul 16 02:16:26 <Paige> ahh
Jul 16 02:16:41 <WaTdaHecK> my cydia keeps quitting and cant connect!!netwrok error..but i can surf in safari
Jul 16 02:16:41 <occ> burroughs won the game of life
Jul 16 02:16:46 <occ> ...he never died of heroin!
Jul 16 02:16:47 <Paige> just don't flu in an airbus
Jul 16 02:16:50 <planetbeing> Wilco: Dunno. I can't debug a problem I can't reproduce.
Jul 16 02:16:53 <Paige> fly
Jul 16 02:16:55 <therealduckie> RR: protip: you are more likely to be hit by lightening or a meteor then to die in a plane crash
Jul 16 02:16:56 <therealduckie> trufax
Jul 16 02:17:04 <hoodie> most planes are over 30 yrs old
Jul 16 02:17:05 <tjcarter> duckie: #3 is to accuse me of not being blind.  Faking it.
Jul 16 02:17:15 <Wilco> planetbeing:  ic. well let me know how i can help and i'll do my best.
Jul 16 02:17:17 <occ> yeah, but what scares people about plane crashes is the lack of control
Jul 16 02:17:25 <therealduckie> tjcarter: Because you still have shape sight?
Jul 16 02:17:25 <RR> therealduckie: I even know I have to fly 67,5 years nonstop to get into an airplane crash
Jul 16 02:17:26 <occ> in a car crash, you can go "yeah, my fault."
Jul 16 02:17:28 <bryn> Cydia works fine for me.
Jul 16 02:17:53 <therealduckie> or should I say light sight
Jul 16 02:17:56 <WaTdaHecK> wtf is wrong with my cydia
Jul 16 02:17:56 <RR> occ: I don't think you're able to say "Yeah, my fault", after a crash that lead to death :)
Jul 16 02:18:07 <planetbeing> Wilco: There's a lot of variables, but try pulling out and reinserting the SIM.
Jul 16 02:18:07 <therealduckie> cydia is fine for me now, too
Jul 16 02:18:12 <occ> "ahh, sorry about that, dude"
Jul 16 02:18:12 <planetbeing> Or just waiting a few minutes.
Jul 16 02:18:16 <iGuru3GS> Could someone do me a favour and Twitter something at "macdotnub"? I want to know if push is working correctly on my 3GS now 
Jul 16 02:18:18 <bryn> RR: You can if you dont die.
Jul 16 02:18:34 <RR> bryn: Plane crashes have no survivors, usualy.
Jul 16 02:18:35 <Zigtown> everyday I fall a little more in love with twitter man
Jul 16 02:18:44 <bryn> iGuru3GS: doing it now
Jul 16 02:18:46 <occ> yes, but where do you bury the survivors?
Jul 16 02:18:58 <therealduckie> 16% survuve plane crashes
Jul 16 02:19:00 <iGuru3GS> thanks bryn :)
Jul 16 02:19:02 <therealduckie> *survive
Jul 16 02:19:05 <Zigtown> occ weak joke
Jul 16 02:19:08 <silent_pr> u dont bury survivors
Jul 16 02:19:17 <therealduckie> you eat them
Jul 16 02:19:22 <occ> it was kinda post-humor
Jul 16 02:19:22 <silent_pr> agreed
Jul 16 02:19:46 <bryn> ooh mobilesubstrate update
Jul 16 02:19:58 <tjcarter> duckie: because I don't walk with my head tilted back staring off into space, best I can tell
Jul 16 02:19:59 <Paige> another ms update?
Jul 16 02:20:05 <Wilco> planetbeing: i'll test shortly. 
Jul 16 02:20:12 <Paige> sheesh, that is like the second one in a week
Jul 16 02:20:22 <bryn> iGuru3GS: sent
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Jul 16 02:20:29 <Wilco> anyone knows of a GPS utility in app store that shows GPS status ?
Jul 16 02:20:30 <tjcarter> I move my head to follow sounds, I look straight ahead (in sunlight I don't SEE anything, but I look straight ahead), and I react to things around me.
Jul 16 02:20:32 <therealduckie> tjcarter: of my many blind friends, one of them in NJ and I went to Vegas together
Jul 16 02:20:35 <therealduckie> man, what a blast
Jul 16 02:20:43 <Paige> wilco trailguru
Jul 16 02:20:53 <Wilco> Paige: thats free?
Jul 16 02:20:56 <Paige> yes
Jul 16 02:20:58 <Wilco> tnx
Jul 16 02:21:01 <Paige> welcome
Jul 16 02:21:04 <therealduckie> tjcarter: he used to have sight, but now he has basically a pin sized hole in his vision where he sees light
Jul 16 02:21:09 <Paige> cool app too
Jul 16 02:21:15 <h4ck> i have a pimple on my face
Jul 16 02:21:16 <h4ck> fucking shit
Jul 16 02:21:17 <occ> ive got fucked up vision
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Jul 16 02:21:33 <occ> something neurological, nobody ever figured it out
Jul 16 02:21:34 <iGuru3GS> bryn, worked great, cheers :)
Jul 16 02:21:39 <bryn> I wear glasses, when i dont wear them my vision is blurry as fuck.
Jul 16 02:21:43 <therealduckie> tjcarter: so the lights in Vegas were a blast for him.  Also, we got drunk as hell getting hot girls to buy him and I drinks 
Jul 16 02:21:51 <bryn> iGuru3GS: no worries :)
Jul 16 02:22:13 <tjcarter> duckie: I have a lot of vision, it's stable too.  It's just highly variable based on light and contrast.  I'm an albino
Jul 16 02:22:22 <occ> bryn: was he like "as a blind man, i of course have to feel your ass.  its our way of shaking hands."
Jul 16 02:22:37 <therealduckie> tjcarter: so are you slowly losing it due to corneal issues?
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Jul 16 02:22:48 <tjcarter> nope
Jul 16 02:22:49 <bryn> occ: LOL
Jul 16 02:23:00 <occ> (see, that was intended to be funny)
Jul 16 02:23:01 <occ> heh
Jul 16 02:23:27 <tjcarter> I'm an albino, I'm photophobic (which isn't a fear of light actually) and I have serious optic nerve issues
Jul 16 02:23:48 <tjcarter> oh and my eyes are not shaped well--that could be corrected with glasses
Jul 16 02:23:50 * IDKnow|away is now known as IDKnow
Jul 16 02:23:55 <tjcarter> for all the good it'd do me, lol
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Jul 16 02:24:18 <tjcarter> too much of my optic nerve tries to cross the midline
Jul 16 02:24:18 <occ> same situation since birth?
Jul 16 02:24:25 <occ> (well, heh, im sure the albinism, yeah)
Jul 16 02:24:32 <tjcarter> nowhere to go, so it basically bundled up into a knot and atrophied
Jul 16 02:24:44 <tjcarter> I have very little depth perception
Jul 16 02:24:55 <therealduckie> hence the large text and closeness
Jul 16 02:24:58 <tjcarter> and a fraction of normal receptors
Jul 16 02:26:08 <occ> rods n cones?
Jul 16 02:27:31 <hoodie> tjcarter: any hope in alleviating some of your condition with stem cell research?
Jul 16 02:28:10 <tjcarter> hoodie: nanotech more likely
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Jul 16 02:28:24 <[]D> i want my phone back
Jul 16 02:28:26 <hoodie> you will be assimilated... lol
Jul 16 02:28:29 <tjcarter> hoodie: gene therapy may give me pigments
Jul 16 02:28:31 <[]D> no
Jul 16 02:28:40 <Paige> []D, i want my mac pro back :p
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Jul 16 02:28:46 <tjcarter> don't care about acuity
Jul 16 02:28:57 <[]D> ok give me my pnsy back
Jul 16 02:29:01 <CycloneFr> most improvements in stem cell research are to regenerate the cornea, and not fix the optic nerve
Jul 16 02:29:01 <[]D> money
Jul 16 02:29:12 <[]D> cause i paid alot
Jul 16 02:29:14 <asap18> frenchies :|
Jul 16 02:29:17 <[]D> no 
Jul 16 02:29:23 <tjcarter> that's the thing, most blind people, once they accept blindness (or have never had more vision to begin with) don't want sight restored
Jul 16 02:29:29 <CycloneFr> asap18: always here when I speak :D
Jul 16 02:29:30 <occ> well, there was that thing with a direct-neural-implant
Jul 16 02:29:33 <occ> a few years back
Jul 16 02:29:34 <tjcarter> they want whatever inconvenience they deal with fixed
Jul 16 02:29:41 <occ> replacement optic nerve, basically
Jul 16 02:29:41 <tjcarter> but seeing?  What for.
Jul 16 02:29:44 <asap18> CycloneFr, pain meds have fucked my sleep up
Jul 16 02:30:01 <occ> hooked yet asap?
Jul 16 02:30:04 <hoodie> CycloneFr: yeah... but the field is in its infancy. I bet we can grow entire organs ... in fact, I know we can. Remember the ear on the mouse? And they're growing kidneys now. Growing/cloning eyes can't be too far off.
Jul 16 02:30:08 <CycloneFr> asap18: why are you taking pain meds ?
Jul 16 02:30:16 <Paige> what kind of pain meds asap18?
Jul 16 02:30:17 <planetbeing> It's a lot faster to have that extra sense.
Jul 16 02:30:18 <[]D> no.. i dont have the slikks aor the tols for that i bought it legaly and boxed
Jul 16 02:30:18 <tjcarter> I don't need more acuity.  Fix those damned headaches and the sensitivity to light, THAT I could use.
Jul 16 02:30:19 <asap18> had my wisdom teeth out yesterday
Jul 16 02:30:24 <Paige> ugh!
Jul 16 02:30:24 <asap18> some were impacted
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Jul 16 02:30:29 <tjcarter> more acuity too?  Whatever.
Jul 16 02:30:31 <hoodie> Vicodan ?
Jul 16 02:30:37 <asap18> nacro or smth
Jul 16 02:30:40 <RR> Oh, and I've been thinking that asap is a bot :-O
Jul 16 02:30:40 <CycloneFr> asap18: ahhh i see :/
Jul 16 02:30:42 <tjcarter> can't do that?  Not interested then.
Jul 16 02:30:47 <hoodie> or oxycodone or hydrocodone?
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Jul 16 02:30:54 <asap18> hydro
Jul 16 02:30:55 <occ> light sensitivity can be played around with, no?
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Jul 16 02:31:07 <tjcarter> occ: I got awesome shades.
Jul 16 02:31:09 <asap18> i thought they are supposed to make you drowsy
Jul 16 02:31:11 <therealduckie> omg we're such losers - we're all talking drugs again
Jul 16 02:31:12 <[]D> dont you recognized a flash file..using it for fun..
Jul 16 02:31:12 <Paige> i had an impacted wisdom tooth extracted a few weeks ago, ended up with dry socket :(
Jul 16 02:31:14 <asap18> they just keep me up
Jul 16 02:31:16 <tjcarter> but they don't help
Jul 16 02:31:17 <therealduckie> let's accidentally our whole selves now
Jul 16 02:31:25 <occ> asap: they have unusual effects
Jul 16 02:31:31 <hoodie> mmm. asap18. Tomorrow... call your doctor. Tell him "the pills do NOTHING, I am still in pain" . Seriously. don't forget.
Jul 16 02:31:31 <occ> can be both stimulating and the opposite
Jul 16 02:31:33 <asap18> Paige, oh really? why does that happen?
Jul 16 02:31:41 <Z00L|NotHere> tjcarter: mind a quick pm?
Jul 16 02:31:47 <asap18> hoodie, they work fine...
Jul 16 02:31:50 <tjcarter> sure z00l
Jul 16 02:31:53 <[]D> with astupid cheap usb 
Jul 16 02:31:54 <asap18> just make me not sleep :P
Jul 16 02:31:55 * therealduckie is sad he cannot take Xanax anymore because iof his heart attack
Jul 16 02:31:58 <hoodie> asap18: do you want more pills or not?
Jul 16 02:32:07 <occ> why no xanax after a heart attack?
Jul 16 02:32:08 <asap18> heh i dont like pain meds
Jul 16 02:32:09 <[]D> no i want my phone..
Jul 16 02:32:10 <Paige> asap18, in my case, i was drinking frappacino's through a straw
Jul 16 02:32:12 <hoodie> :P
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Jul 16 02:32:26 <Paige> but a few things can cause that
Jul 16 02:32:29 <therealduckie> occ, it would effect my heart rate
Jul 16 02:32:34 <Wilco> damn - well i went outside  - put GPS MotionX on the iphone - No Signal. Something is wrong with GPS
Jul 16 02:32:35 <therealduckie> I am on meds for my heart
Jul 16 02:32:38 <asap18> hoodie, it gets boring after you've been connected to a morphine drip for a few days :P
Jul 16 02:32:43 <therealduckie> I had 3 stents put in
Jul 16 02:32:44 <occ> i guess it could lower it
Jul 16 02:32:44 <Wilco> used to work very nicely with FW 2.2 
Jul 16 02:32:51 <[]D> well tell me where you are and i will go there.. and ther whe go to court.. they will love that
Jul 16 02:32:51 <therealduckie> too much, occ
Jul 16 02:32:55 <hoodie> yeah... I guess so. wow. vacation in a bed.
Jul 16 02:32:55 <therealduckie> too much
Jul 16 02:33:03 <occ> i take klonopin, and i dont think that noticeably lowers mine
Jul 16 02:33:09 <occ> (but xanax is short-acting and punchy)
Jul 16 02:33:11 <asap18> Paige, wow - the first thing my doc told me was no straws
Jul 16 02:33:11 <Paige> smoking cigarettes, straws, swishing too hard with water/mouthwash
Jul 16 02:33:27 <hoodie> And french kissing.
Jul 16 02:33:31 <asap18> lol
Jul 16 02:33:37 <Paige> yeah, it creates negative pressure and can pull the clot out of the socket
Jul 16 02:33:48 <CycloneFr> what what ?
Jul 16 02:33:54 <CycloneFr> ah no, not me !
Jul 16 02:33:58 <hoodie> can caouse a condition known as "foreign tongue socket"
Jul 16 02:33:59 <therealduckie> dry socket, CycloneFr 
Jul 16 02:34:02 <[]D> mira lets cut the crap...  yo tengo im social secury in soy un ciudadano europeo..
Jul 16 02:34:04 <superdug> occ: lulz, welcome to the valium family and friends tour!
Jul 16 02:34:14 <FxChiP> mreh
Jul 16 02:34:16 <CycloneFr> therealduckie: yeah i know
Jul 16 02:34:27 <occ> heh, whats that?
Jul 16 02:34:52 <[]D> well maybe noting for you... but for me is somthing..
Jul 16 02:35:21 <planetbeing> Wilco: you could try letting me see /var/logs/ultrasn0w-dylib.log to see if there's anything unusual there.
Jul 16 02:35:23 <planetbeing> But I doubt it.
Jul 16 02:35:25 <therealduckie> dry socket is major suck
Jul 16 02:35:33 <planetbeing> Also see if you can replicate the other dude's symptoms.
Jul 16 02:35:40 <Paige> dry socket fucking hurts
Jul 16 02:35:40 <planetbeing> Where GPS comes back if you uninstall ultrasn0w.
Jul 16 02:35:45 <[]D> i do regreat this beahvior 
Jul 16 02:35:51 <Wilco> planetbeing: let me get you those logs
Jul 16 02:36:14 <Paige> and it is a pain that will last like a week or two
Jul 16 02:36:16 <hoodie> dry socket stinks, too
Jul 16 02:36:21 <superdug> GEOHOT FOR LIFE MOTHERFUCKERS!
Jul 16 02:36:25 <superdug> wait ... 
Jul 16 02:36:29 <Paige> superdug, haha
Jul 16 02:36:29 <superdug> where am I?
Jul 16 02:36:32 <CycloneFr> never removed my wisdom teeth since they never bothered me that much.. maybe some pain like 2 days a years, but that's it
Jul 16 02:36:43 <[]D> to you maybe
Jul 16 02:36:47 <therealduckie> superdug: I heard you're my butt buddy or something
Jul 16 02:36:49 <RR> superdug: You're getting annoying.
Jul 16 02:36:56 <therealduckie> that we're conpiring together now
Jul 16 02:37:01 <therealduckie> *conspiring even
Jul 16 02:37:05 <iGuru> asap18 mind if I PM you a sec?
Jul 16 02:37:07 <hoodie> its a racket... the whole wisdom teeth thing. 
Jul 16 02:37:08 <tjcarter> omg planetbeing actual iPhone support
Jul 16 02:37:14 <superdug> RR: says the guy with the nickname RR
Jul 16 02:37:39 <tjcarter> and thanks BTW, I can't really support sn0ws of any color
Jul 16 02:37:41 <RR> Damn, you hurt me :-(
Jul 16 02:37:45 <Zigtown> reigistered retard?
Jul 16 02:37:45 <tjcarter> 2G  =)
Jul 16 02:37:47 <Zigtown> :O
Jul 16 02:37:52 <therealduckie> planetbeing has always been helpful in chan when he's active, that I have seen
Jul 16 02:38:08 <Zigtown> planetbeing any idea's on logome?
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Jul 16 02:38:12 <asap18> sure iGuru
Jul 16 02:38:22 <RR> Zigtown: Russian Rambo, u know..
Jul 16 02:38:24 <tjcarter> duckie: unlike that tjcarter asshole.
Jul 16 02:38:30 <therealduckie> lol
Jul 16 02:38:34 <tjcarter> he's useless
Jul 16 02:38:38 <Zigtown> oh my bad RR
Jul 16 02:38:43 <tjcarter> and a fraud too
Jul 16 02:38:43 <Paige> i like his attitude as well... compare the two and choose for yourself instead of trashing the other solution outright
Jul 16 02:38:46 <Zigtown> I thought I had it
Jul 16 02:38:49 <planetbeing> Zigtown: Erm, well. I haven't had much time working on it.
Jul 16 02:39:02 <planetbeing> I spent the last couple of days just working on the latest ultrasn0w. =P
Jul 16 02:39:05 <Zigtown> makes sense....think it'll be an easy port?
Jul 16 02:39:31 <hoodie> weathermen. Is there anything they can't do?
Jul 16 02:39:32 <therealduckie> tjcarter: got any iphones you can sell me?
Jul 16 02:39:37 <planetbeing> I originally thought it'd be a five minute hack to do the MobileSubstrate/CommCenter patch, but it turned out to be quite hard to get hactivation working right.
Jul 16 02:39:47 <tjcarter> duckie: For $30?
Jul 16 02:39:47 <planetbeing> And also, I had to make saurik update MS twice to do what I want it to do. :P
Jul 16 02:39:48 <Zigtown> eeek
Jul 16 02:39:53 <planetbeing> That's what those MS updates were for. :P
Jul 16 02:39:55 <Zigtown> haha
Jul 16 02:39:58 <tjcarter> lol
Jul 16 02:39:58 <therealduckie> I only have $20, tjcarter 
Jul 16 02:40:00 <hoodie> ha!
Jul 16 02:40:11 <tjcarter> oh, nah, can't help ya then
Jul 16 02:40:14 <Paige> i am missing something apparently but why do ppl have to hactivate?
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Jul 16 02:40:17 <therealduckie> crap
Jul 16 02:40:19 <superdug> I got nothing ... I woke up to throw up ... and look at the computer ...I've done both ... I think I'll go pass out again
Jul 16 02:40:41 <zini> new ultrasick ultrasn0w!
Jul 16 02:40:42 <zini> YAY
Jul 16 02:40:42 <planetbeing> Paige: Well, it's harder to get the unlock working on hactivated phones.
Jul 16 02:40:46 <hoodie> superdug: get better, jerk
Jul 16 02:40:46 <planetbeing> I can go into technical details if you'd like.
Jul 16 02:40:51 <Zigtown> Paige: need to get to summerboard in order to instal ultrasn0w
Jul 16 02:40:57 <zini> YES YES YES
Jul 16 02:40:59 <therealduckie> she would like and so would I
Jul 16 02:41:04 <zini> just don't tell Paige any technical details
Jul 16 02:41:06 <zini> :)))
Jul 16 02:41:08 * therealduckie now speaks for Paige lol
Jul 16 02:41:10 <zini> i hear she works @ apple
Jul 16 02:41:16 <planetbeing> Hahah.
Jul 16 02:41:18 <Paige> hahaha
Jul 16 02:41:19 <therealduckie> and she's a man, zini 
Jul 16 02:41:23 <h4ck> any good drama lately
Jul 16 02:41:29 <Zigtown> stop
Jul 16 02:41:29 <planetbeing> It really doesn't matter. I'm sure they have their own guys reversing our stuff.
Jul 16 02:41:30 <zini> AND she's a man!
Jul 16 02:41:40 <zini> ok
Jul 16 02:41:41 <Zigtown> pics or didnt happen
Jul 16 02:41:46 <h4ck> i don't think apple cares enought
Jul 16 02:41:54 <superdug> sarah: hugs and kisses :-O
Jul 16 02:41:54 * therealduckie googles some tranny porn for Zigtown
Jul 16 02:41:56 <Paige> it is a cat/mouse game
Jul 16 02:41:57 <zini> i love it when you give technical details my peanutbutter
Jul 16 02:42:01 * Rave-N raise a brow.
Jul 16 02:42:02 <h4ck> but yeah, where are the pics of Paige
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Jul 16 02:42:08 <h4ck> i wanna see this dude.....ette
Jul 16 02:42:09 <zini> Paige, and you are a kitten
Jul 16 02:42:14 <therealduckie> paige is secretly the cat
Jul 16 02:42:23 <Paige> haha
Jul 16 02:42:35 <hoodie> Paige, stop trying to break the unlock you minx
Jul 16 02:42:44 <Paige> i have 3 kittens, does that count?
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Jul 16 02:42:57 <therealduckie> lies, you have 4
Jul 16 02:43:02 <planetbeing> The only thing that was practically nice about geohot's thing is that he sends the unlock around the same time that CommCenter sends the activation ticket.
Jul 16 02:43:10 <therealduckie> ...hundred
Jul 16 02:43:31 <planetbeing> See, since 3G, an activation ticket has to be sent to the baseband from the CommCenter on locked phones to get the baseband to work.
Jul 16 02:43:36 <Paige> 400 kittens? omg, what a nightmare that would be
Jul 16 02:43:42 <Zigtown> well guys....like the country song says....the sun's coming up so I am going down
Jul 16 02:43:50 <Zigtown> have a good day/sleep for all of you
Jul 16 02:43:51 <planetbeing> So people hactivating their legit AT&T phones can't get service anymore. That's why that is.
Jul 16 02:43:53 <hoodie> crap... dawn.
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Jul 16 02:44:04 <zini> planetbeing, crazy
Jul 16 02:44:23 <therealduckie> 400 BABIES!
Jul 16 02:44:27 <planetbeing> But the reason why geohot sends it then is that after the activation ticket is sent, CommCenter rechecks the lock status of the baseband.
Jul 16 02:44:28 <therealduckie> PowerThirst!
Jul 16 02:44:30 <planetbeing> Ordinarily it wouldn't.
Jul 16 02:44:37 <tjcarter> 400 babby!
Jul 16 02:44:42 <therealduckie> It's crystal Meth in a can!
Jul 16 02:44:53 <RR> good night, Zigtown
Jul 16 02:44:53 <therealduckie> how is babby formed?
Jul 16 02:44:55 <planetbeing> That's why we have to go through all the stk rigamoral to get CommCenter to recognize the phone has been unlocked.
Jul 16 02:44:55 <therealduckie> how is babby formed?
Jul 16 02:44:57 <RR> sleep well
Jul 16 02:45:00 <therealduckie> how girl get pragnent?
Jul 16 02:45:07 <therealduckie> THEY NEED TO DO WAY INSTAIN MOTHER!
Jul 16 02:45:10 <zini> planetbeing, maes sense. 
Jul 16 02:45:17 <Paige> oh so it applies only to unlocking?
Jul 16 02:45:21 <zini> so the new ultra is a little reorganized?
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Jul 16 02:45:35 <Zigtown> nigth RR
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Jul 16 02:45:59 <zini> i totally can't get on the dev-team blog.. i think it's hosed.
Jul 16 02:46:04 <planetbeing> Well, it's totally reorganized.
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Jul 16 02:46:20 <Paige> hey dale1v 
Jul 16 02:46:23 <zini> basically, now it's like the best of both worlds....
Jul 16 02:46:26 <zini> doesn't take baseband memory
Jul 16 02:46:33 <zini> but works similar to ge0snots?
Jul 16 02:46:45 <planetbeing> But we learned more about how to get both the CommCenter and the baseband to refresh its unlock state (without pulling out the SIM and putting it back in AND without stk refreshs)
Jul 16 02:46:45 <dale1v> hi paige
Jul 16 02:46:50 <planetbeing> That's basically the thing.
Jul 16 02:46:56 <Paige> zini no bashing geo
Jul 16 02:47:06 <planetbeing> Well, it started off working similar to geohot's, but not really anymore.
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Jul 16 02:47:20 <planetbeing> It can't in order to work on hactivated stuff.
Jul 16 02:47:26 <zini> ge0sn0t! :)  i love him he knows it it's ok
Jul 16 02:47:32 <planetbeing> But he sort of prompted us to investigate.
Jul 16 02:47:35 <zini> so, the No sim card message is gone?
Jul 16 02:47:39 <planetbeing> Yeah.
Jul 16 02:47:42 <zini> my folks get that error sometimes.
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Jul 16 02:47:58 <Paige> hactivation only applies to unlocking?
Jul 16 02:47:59 <planetbeing> Right now it works by sending a fake activation ticket to the baseband (which allows the baseband to refresh its unlock state)
Jul 16 02:48:02 <bryn> zini: I kept getting that
Jul 16 02:48:04 <bryn> on my 3g
Jul 16 02:48:19 <planetbeing> And intercepting all messages from the baseband at the commcenter level that reports the baseband as locked.
Jul 16 02:48:21 <zini> yeah a few friends get it..  not often but they get it
Jul 16 02:48:27 <planetbeing> So the first thing that CommCenter sees is that the bb has been unlocked.
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Jul 16 02:48:34 <iGuru> ah, that's cool planetbeing 
Jul 16 02:48:38 <zini> yeah
Jul 16 02:48:42 <zini> thanks for explaining it!
Jul 16 02:48:46 <zini> very cool stuff
Jul 16 02:48:53 <zini> i wish i could give you ops or something.
Jul 16 02:49:01 * zini hands planetbeing a beer  a planetbeer.
Jul 16 02:49:03 <tjcarter> planetbeing: so basically you saw where geo was going with purple and produced something that was less brutal and more efficient in size
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Jul 16 02:49:11 <planetbeing> Which makes it unnecessary to refresh. Since CommCenter won't change its mind after the first report of the baseband's lock status (UNLESS it sends an activation ticket)
Jul 16 02:49:23 <planetbeing> So it's important to have the first thing it sees be the report of an unlocked bb.
Jul 16 02:49:24 <Cupertino> cool lads
Jul 16 02:49:32 <Cupertino> now my 3gs has to arrive, very shortly
Jul 16 02:49:35 <iGuru> makes sense
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Jul 16 02:49:58 <planetbeing> tjcarter: Yeah, I'm not sure how much geohot does is by knowledge and how much is by accident...
Jul 16 02:50:02 <zini> planetbeing, i was already anxious when i walked out of the store and they said it might take 24 hours to unlock..
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Jul 16 02:50:30 <zini> the first thing  i like to see in the morning is an unlocked baseband. :)
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Jul 16 02:50:32 <planetbeing> He scares me a little sometimes, because he talks about the dword he couldn't overwrite or it "broke", and I was like. Dude, that's the malloc struct.
Jul 16 02:50:46 <planetbeing> I guess, I'm more careful about investigating everything, and he just hacks until it works.
Jul 16 02:50:53 <planetbeing> He's waaaay faster than me at least. :P
Jul 16 02:51:01 <iGuru> lol
Jul 16 02:51:30 * hoodie considers a friendly wager
Jul 16 02:51:38 <zini> he doesn't mind overwriting the memory
Jul 16 02:51:48 <zini> prolly doesn't bother to check what's there first
Jul 16 02:51:59 <zini> just borrow this and :)))
Jul 16 02:52:07 <tjcarter> planetbeing: unlocking essentially the apple way is much more elegant IMO
Jul 16 02:52:14 <iGuru> I think Geohot came up with a good idea, just a bad way of implementing it
Jul 16 02:52:33 <planetbeing> @planetbeing patch text you mean in commcenter? i needed a place to run code. at 0x43000000, theres hopefully nothing important :P
Jul 16 02:52:41 <planetbeing> That's what he tweeted to me when I asked him about it.
Jul 16 02:52:52 <iGuru> lol, nice
Jul 16 02:53:08 <planetbeing> I'm shocked he didn't check.
Jul 16 02:53:20 <Paige> doh! blindly stepping on memory
Jul 16 02:53:20 <tjcarter> iGuru: that's usually how it works  =D
Jul 16 02:53:51 <iGuru> I'm amazed.. but happy I hace
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Jul 16 02:54:05 * JailbreakServ gives channel half-operator status to rp4k
Jul 16 02:54:25 <iGuru> *haven't had any problems since using purplera1n
Jul 16 02:54:33 <bryn> !voice
Jul 16 02:54:33 * JailbreakServ gives voice to bryn
Jul 16 02:54:41 <planetbeing> Patching the page table was really ballsy though. I'm glad he proved it was workable.
Jul 16 02:54:54 <planetbeing> There's probably a more delicate way to do it, and it's useful to have this in the arsenal for later.
Jul 16 02:55:06 <Paige> my first go-round was with purplera1n, the second was with redsn0w
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Jul 16 02:56:09 <zini> chronic!!!
Jul 16 02:56:16 * zini gives voice to chronic
Jul 16 02:56:23 <chronic> is this place still going crazy?
Jul 16 02:56:24 <iGuru> Have't decided if my 3GS problems were down to redsn0w or not... but I do know things didn't work out twice after using it... So this is my 3rd 3GS jb in the three days I've had it, lol
Jul 16 02:56:39 <iGuru> it's ok ATM chronic
Jul 16 02:56:40 <matt> planetbeing: this is probably a "simple" question, but how do you know what does what with no source code?
Jul 16 02:56:44 <bryn> chronic: ssshh, its ok.
Jul 16 02:56:45 <zini> chronic, now that the devs have the best unlock again, things are better
Jul 16 02:56:51 <Paige> chronic no, it is pretty chill. planetbeing is explaining how things work :)
Jul 16 02:56:53 <chronic> nice
Jul 16 02:57:05 <planetbeing> matt: He did provide source with the first version, though it wouldn't have really been a problem if he didn't.
Jul 16 02:57:08 <zini> you've been missing some NIIICE text from planet
Jul 16 02:57:19 <matt> i dont mean geohots unlock, i mean in general
Jul 16 02:57:21 <zini> if you wanna login to my session and scroll up, you can
Jul 16 02:57:22 <planetbeing> We can pretty much read assembly like C anyway.
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Jul 16 02:57:37 <planetbeing> matt: Oh, you just look at the machine code.
Jul 16 02:57:48 <tjcarter> chronic: basically, as usual, geohot came up with a crazy brilliant idea, and then the most insane how-does-this-NOT-break implementation for it..
Jul 16 02:58:16 <iGuru> whoops, forgot to enable backgrounder on flowchat
Jul 16 02:58:24 <tjcarter> chronic: so, he turned coffee into a brutal iPhone hack that's insanely clever as usual.
Jul 16 02:58:47 <tjcarter> chronic: new ultra follows where he was going with it and ... isn't brutal.
Jul 16 02:59:11 <planetbeing> Well, this one's not insanely clever, since we've been kicking around the page table idea for awhile, but it was ballsy to do it.
Jul 16 02:59:15 * Cybex (John@2D39FF70.B5589CEA.EB6EFE21.IP) has joined #iphone
Jul 16 02:59:35 <planetbeing> In my opinion, anyway. :P
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Jul 16 02:59:40 <chronic> wow, it's weird, it's like when geohot gives something nice all things go to hell, but then when devteam comes out with smth, the balance is restored :P (as in purplera1n, havoc, redsn0w update, everything is ok. purplesn0w, havoc, ultra update, everything is ok)
Jul 16 03:00:13 <tjcarter> chronic: well, channel management was different 24 hours ago
Jul 16 03:00:30 <chronic> yeah :P
Jul 16 03:00:46 <tjcarter> it's no longer my problem, so...
Jul 16 03:01:26 <iGuru> I'm so looking forward to flowchat storing channel passwords in keychain..,
Jul 16 03:02:04 <hoodie> I was about to fall asleep... but I just remembered what happened to me earlier tonight. About 10 met a friend at a hotel he works at... we go off... get bak around 12 with a bag. He had reserved a room to be left vacant so we could blaze.
Jul 16 03:02:20 <hoodie> he grabs the card key, and he, my cousin and I go up to this room
Jul 16 03:02:29 <hoodie> he puts the key in the door...opens the door all the way
Jul 16 03:02:33 <hoodie> and someones in there
Jul 16 03:02:35 <tjcarter> planetbeing: you do realize this will be fixed by 3.1 final?
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Jul 16 03:03:07 <planetbeing> The baseband vuln will be fixed.
Jul 16 03:03:13 <planetbeing> Has been, actually.
Jul 16 03:03:20 <hoodie> some fat guy on the chair at the desk... naked... surfing the internet. He says "HEY!!" and my friend said "sorry!" and closed the door... and well, that's it... we left. It was shocking. shocking I tell you.
Jul 16 03:03:40 <chronic> hoodie: wtf?
Jul 16 03:03:49 <hoodie> not kidding... 
Jul 16 03:04:04 <hoodie> the desk guy didn't see his note to keep that room
Jul 16 03:04:13 <hoodie> he gave out the room.
Jul 16 03:04:17 <chronic> lol
Jul 16 03:04:17 <tjcarter> ...
Jul 16 03:04:18 <chronic> planetbeing
Jul 16 03:04:28 <chronic> is the at+fns exploit closed in 3.1 too?
Jul 16 03:04:38 <hoodie> sorry tjcarter... I know... not iphone supporrt... but hopefully funny or something.
Jul 16 03:04:53 <hoodie> goodnight you wonderful people.
Jul 16 03:04:54 <matt> i found it amusing :)
Jul 16 03:04:55 <tjcarter> disturbing more like
Jul 16 03:05:02 <FxChiP> christ
Jul 16 03:05:06 <tjcarter> you cannot un-see something
Jul 16 03:05:08 <planetbeing> chronic: Oh for god's sake. :P
Jul 16 03:05:12 <tjcarter> even off teh internets
Jul 16 03:05:33 <chronic> planetbeing: like a bunch of commands got removed, that's why i asked
Jul 16 03:05:37 <matt> lol presumably that was previously unknown, pb
Jul 16 03:05:40 <planetbeing> That's sort of a self-fulfilling question. :P
Jul 16 03:05:49 <planetbeing> The answer will always be yes. :p
Jul 16 03:05:54 <planetbeing> Since you asked it in a public channel. :p
Jul 16 03:06:05 <iGuru> lol
Jul 16 03:06:06 >planetbeing< do you have a second?
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Jul 16 03:06:11 <chronic> well duh, it _will_ be, i just asked if it was _yet_ :P
Jul 16 03:06:30 <planetbeing> I think so.
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Jul 16 03:06:58 <tjcarter> hello to our friends at Apple.  =)
Jul 16 03:07:05 <planetbeing> Oh right, I forgot that nitrokey leaked that one too?
Jul 16 03:07:06 * Rehan waves back
Jul 16 03:07:32 <chronic> planetbeing: duh, else i wouldn't have mentioned it :P its already public
Jul 16 03:08:06 <chronic> i just didn't know if it got closed yet
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Jul 16 03:09:09 <Paige> planetbeing ping?
Jul 16 03:09:16 <planetbeing> Hi.
Jul 16 03:09:45 <Paige> check your pm plz?
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Jul 16 03:10:03 <h4ck> brbr
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Jul 16 03:10:32 <planetbeing> oh oops
Jul 16 03:13:51 <MuscleNerd> yes, fns was closed even before this public disclosure :) :(
Jul 16 03:14:23 <planetbeing> Gotta love NK.
Jul 16 03:14:31 <MuscleNerd> hah yeah
Jul 16 03:14:39 <planetbeing> I think that guy just hates you. :p
Jul 16 03:14:41 <tjcarter> planetbeing: with a stabbing knife.
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Jul 16 03:15:11 <tjcarter> planetbeing: love him all night long, repeatedly.
Jul 16 03:15:40 <tjcarter> violent?  Who me?
Jul 16 03:15:42 <iGuru> I hate damn regex + .htaccess rewrite rules =\
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Jul 16 03:16:23 * tjcarter will stab anyone who says he's violent.
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Jul 16 03:17:37 <occ> everyones picking fights with me on efnet over stupid shit
Jul 16 03:17:51 <occ> like...the fact that i dont have student loans
Jul 16 03:17:53 <occ> (?!)
Jul 16 03:18:06 <tjcarter> ...
Jul 16 03:18:08 <tjcarter> lol
Jul 16 03:18:20 <occ> thats not even a rational...thought process, haha
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Jul 16 03:20:43 * Tiy facepalms
Jul 16 03:20:59 <Tiy> Would anyone like to take a shot at helping me with my t-mobile data problems, I've tried everything I can think of
Jul 16 03:21:00 * tjcarter faceplants
Jul 16 03:21:10 <occ> whats happening, tiy?
Jul 16 03:21:11 * tjcarter is dead for 8h
Jul 16 03:21:20 <occ> n1t3
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Jul 16 03:21:28 <tjcarter> anyone who comes to wake me up... wear protective equipment.
Jul 16 03:21:33 <Tiy> Okey well basically, I'm on T-Mobile UK, which works fine with 3G, safari is fine, beejive is fine, last FM is fine, a whole load of apps are fine
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Jul 16 03:21:38 <Tiy> but IRC clients rarely ever work
Jul 16 03:21:47 <occ> what happens when you run?
Jul 16 03:21:49 <Tiy> and simplify media (which is basically the most important app for me) will just not connect
Jul 16 03:22:07 <Tiy> I get connection failed over and over again, checking the console it seems the IRC server can't find a hostname
Jul 16 03:22:09 <occ> im already leaning toward "port blocked"
Jul 16 03:22:21 <Tiy> on wifi all the apps work fine
Jul 16 03:22:33 <Rehan> occ: agreed
Jul 16 03:22:36 <occ> yeah, because wifi is a standard internet connection
Jul 16 03:22:44 <Tiy> A strange thing is, if I go to airport mode
Jul 16 03:22:46 <occ> it may well be that tmobile blocks out the ports you need
Jul 16 03:22:49 <Tiy> and toggle on and off
Jul 16 03:22:54 <iGuru> Tiy, could be t-mobile blocks IRC
Jul 16 03:23:03 <Tiy> well it works sometimes iGuru, it's working right now
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Jul 16 03:23:07 <Tiy> but I had to connect maybe 99 times
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Jul 16 03:23:11 <iGuru> hmm
Jul 16 03:23:26 <Tiy> also, simplify media shouldnt be a port issue
Jul 16 03:23:52 <Tiy> I think it probably uses a very standard port. All it does is connect to simplify media servers to get a list of media running on your home PC, once it's done that it connects to your home PC and not simplify
Jul 16 03:24:13 <Tiy> infact, If i use wifi to connect to simplify's servers to get the list, then switch to 3g, I can stream songs from my home computer
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Jul 16 03:25:04 <Tiy> i think they're standard HTTP requests.. It wont even let me sign up for a new account on 3g, its crazy
Jul 16 03:25:50 <Tiy> A guy here called bumblebee is on the same provider as me, with the same plan. He can use IRC just fine, every time
Jul 16 03:26:34 <iGuru> maybe your unlock broke something
Jul 16 03:26:58 <Tiy> Well I've tried with both purplesn0w and ultrasn0w
Jul 16 03:26:59 <iGuru> Finally :) got the damn rewrite rule working!
Jul 16 03:27:26 <bryn> im on t-mobile UK
Jul 16 03:27:37 <Tiy> IRC and simplify work for you?
Jul 16 03:27:45 <planetbeing> Wilco: Thinking back to yellowsn0w, I remembered why we had to release the versions pre 0.9.6. =P
Jul 16 03:28:00 <bryn> IRC yup, used to use simplify and worked fine
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Jul 16 03:28:02 <planetbeing> Because the community totally would've had our asses crucified if we reneged on the New Years deadline. :p
Jul 16 03:28:07 <Tiy> aghh!
Jul 16 03:28:10 <Wilco> hehehe
Jul 16 03:28:17 <Wilco> right you put an ETA. NEver put an ETA on hacks.
Jul 16 03:28:26 <Wilco> soon is the best word.
Jul 16 03:28:26 <planetbeing> Yeah. Lesson learned.
Jul 16 03:28:27 <Tiy> what APN details do you have bryn
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Jul 16 03:29:40 <Wilco> planetbeing:  u guys need to sit again with Geroge Hotz - talk to him real hard and see how you can work together. its a shame he works then you work and the whole scene of the iphone hacks are in race - who gets which better hack... he seems quite bright but childish. maybe you can help here
Jul 16 03:29:44 <bryn> general.t-mobile.uk
Jul 16 03:29:47 <bryn> user
Jul 16 03:29:55 <planetbeing> I've spoken with him before.
Jul 16 03:30:03 <planetbeing> It's not like we don't cooperate at all.
Jul 16 03:30:03 <Wilco> any luck ?
Jul 16 03:30:06 <Tiy> what password?
Jul 16 03:30:09 <planetbeing> I did help him dump the 3G S bootrom.
Jul 16 03:30:22 <bryn> no idea
Jul 16 03:30:25 <bryn> got it from benm.at
Jul 16 03:30:34 <Tiy> does that config for you?
Jul 16 03:30:47 <bryn> works fine
Jul 16 03:30:49 <planetbeing> We also came up with the same vuln he did a couple of days after we started looking. We tried trading with him but he said no. We would've found out we had the same vuln at that point. :p
Jul 16 03:31:18 <Tiy> how do you mean you got it from benam.at bryn?
Jul 16 03:31:21 <Wilco> what a shame.  reminds me of the old days when hackers hacked PC games and refused to share.
Jul 16 03:31:32 <planetbeing> I personally don't have issues with George, but some of the other guys do.
Jul 16 03:31:45 <Wilco> ic. well its understood.
Jul 16 03:31:47 <planetbeing> Their long memory comes from a couple of bad things he did when he was younger and didn't know as much.
Jul 16 03:31:52 <planetbeing> I wasn't there then.
Jul 16 03:32:03 <Wilco> ic
Jul 16 03:32:04 <iGuru> tiy http://iphone.benm.at
Jul 16 03:32:22 <iGuru> wait
Jul 16 03:32:29 <Wilco> say - is it possible for apple to add capabilities to itunes to detect if the iphone which is connected is a hacked phone?
Jul 16 03:32:32 <iGuru> that's not it
Jul 16 03:32:41 <planetbeing> Yes, if they so chose.
Jul 16 03:32:43 <Wilco> i wonder if they can pull the Pre stunt on hacktivated
Jul 16 03:32:43 <bryn> help.benm.at
Jul 16 03:32:45 <Wilco> phone
Jul 16 03:32:48 <planetbeing> Nothing we can't work around.
Jul 16 03:33:07 <iGuru> that's the one http://help.benm.at
Jul 16 03:33:08 <Wilco> yeah but the question if you can work aorund it via patching itunes or in the firmware of the device?
Jul 16 03:33:13 <planetbeing> They haven't tried very hard, and I'm not even sure if it's worth working around.
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Jul 16 03:33:34 <Wilco> yeah - it amazes me that apple does not check it. if its a legit device.
Jul 16 03:33:36 <planetbeing> Oh well, you just need to prevent the device from pretty much having dead give-aways.
Jul 16 03:33:37 <planetbeing> Like having afc2.
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Jul 16 03:34:20 <Wilco> i was affraid that apple will rebuild itunes to check for legit devices and you guys will have to make a patch for itunes. this way apple would be very pissed and sue the dev team.
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Jul 16 03:34:44 <Paige> its a two way street. the old cat and mouse game... one side developes, the other side breaks it, innovation continues with fresh ideas
Jul 16 03:34:51 <planetbeing> I don't think that's likely. Too many things can go wrong there.
Jul 16 03:35:07 <planetbeing> Anyway, they've yet to send us even a C&D.
Jul 16 03:35:10 <Wilco> cause you acutally need to release a patch to their app.
Jul 16 03:35:11 <Paige> if there was no competition we would still be driving model t cars
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Jul 16 03:35:36 <Sausage> sup?
Jul 16 03:35:39 <Tiy> patching apps isnt against the law Wilco
Jul 16 03:35:46 <Wilco> are you sure?
Jul 16 03:35:47 <Tiy> EULAs aren't legally binding, neverh ave been
Jul 16 03:35:51 <Sausage> can i talk OT for a sec?
Jul 16 03:35:58 <Sausage> it's about an ipod
Jul 16 03:36:04 <planetbeing> Many clauses of EULAs are legally binding in the United States.
Jul 16 03:36:07 <Wilco> i heard once that if you patch an app it breaks the new laws
Jul 16 03:36:10 <phi|o> fact is apple will always do enough to make this stuff hard but probably never completely stop it.
Jul 16 03:36:13 <Wilco> DCs soemthing
Jul 16 03:36:16 <planetbeing> It's been established through plenty of caselaw.
Jul 16 03:36:30 <planetbeing> Although not all clauses are automatically binding.
Jul 16 03:36:31 <Tiy> planetbeing, they've never been tested in court really afaik, but I'm going more on UK law
Jul 16 03:36:46 <Wilco> Adobe sued some russian dude that reverse engineer thier acrobat crap and he got arrested when his feet touched US soil.
Jul 16 03:36:47 * Sausage needs an ok?
Jul 16 03:37:01 <Wilco> if you have to patch you must reverse engineer right?
Jul 16 03:37:06 <planetbeing> Anyway, in the United States, to sue under contract law you'd need to prove actual damages, and that's hard to do when you're talking about patching a piece of software on your own computer.
Jul 16 03:37:10 <Tiy> you don't get arrested for being sued
Jul 16 03:37:14 <phi|o> eula's have been put through the ringer in the us and like planet said a lot of the clauses are most definitely legally binding
Jul 16 03:37:36 <Sausage> i'm just wondering about ipod linux and if any members have f'd with it
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Jul 16 03:37:53 <Wilco> cant apple technically request that the repo for ultrasn0w will be removed?
Jul 16 03:38:05 <Sausage> not looking for tuts or how too's
Jul 16 03:38:06 <phi|o> wilco nope
Jul 16 03:38:07 <Wilco> they can be really assholes and fight for this
Jul 16 03:38:18 <Wilco> intresting
Jul 16 03:38:29 <Tiy> i dont think persuing this too much is in their best interests really
Jul 16 03:38:30 <planetbeing> AT&T probably cares more about unlocking.
Jul 16 03:38:39 <silent_pr> has anyone gotten genesis4iphone to play segacd games?
Jul 16 03:38:45 <Tiy> I would think the updates that block this kind of thing are more to appease AT&T
Jul 16 03:38:45 <planetbeing> Apple didn't even show up to testify vis-a-vis the unlocking exemption, only the jailbreaking one.
Jul 16 03:38:50 <Sausage> lol silent_pr 
Jul 16 03:38:56 <Sausage> it barely runs nes
Jul 16 03:39:06 <silent_pr> 2gs emulates fine
Jul 16 03:39:11 <silent_pr> 3gs
Jul 16 03:39:18 <phi|o> fact is apple doesn't care if there's a segment using jailbreak it only helps their bottom line
Jul 16 03:39:23 <Tiy> the 3gs can most certainly emulate the sega cd
Jul 16 03:39:25 * Sausage hasn't got 3gs yet
Jul 16 03:39:29 <Tiy> whether or not that emulator has the functionality, no idea
Jul 16 03:39:33 <Sausage> 3g was dog shit for emu
Jul 16 03:39:45 <Tiy> most of the emulators are bad ports
Jul 16 03:39:48 <Tiy> thats the problem
Jul 16 03:39:51 <Sausage> i understand
Jul 16 03:39:52 <Tiy> they're not written for the device
Jul 16 03:40:01 <Sausage> hence "port"
Jul 16 03:40:06 <silent_pr> genesis4iphone hascapabilities for segacd
Jul 16 03:40:09 <phi|o> Tiy calling them poor is pretty insulting to zodttd
Jul 16 03:40:12 * bryn is waiting for Dosbox for iphone
Jul 16 03:40:12 <planetbeing> Apple seems to care quite a lot about jailbreaking.
Jul 16 03:40:13 <bryn> :)
Jul 16 03:40:26 <planetbeing> They had quite a brief for their DMCA thing.
Jul 16 03:40:27 <Sausage> i'd loveto see some great emu's for iphone
Jul 16 03:40:36 <Sausage> it would make my day
Jul 16 03:40:39 <Wilco> phi|o:  if apple does not care much of unlocked phones - why do they make it so damn complicated to hack. they could have used easier way to unlock.
Jul 16 03:40:41 <planetbeing> They're still making an active effort to challenge jailbreaking even on old platforms like the iPhone 2G.
Jul 16 03:40:43 <bryn> I love playing old games through scummVM
Jul 16 03:40:49 <phi|o> wilco did i say unlock?
Jul 16 03:40:56 <Sausage> i own psp 3000 ds, dsi wii, xbox, 360 
Jul 16 03:41:04 <Tiy> iGuru, the config from that website didn't help
Jul 16 03:41:06 <Wilco> phi|o:  jailbreak leads to unlock
Jul 16 03:41:09 <Sausage> but i use my phone more than ever
Jul 16 03:41:09 <Tiy> still not connecting to IRC every time, sigh face
Jul 16 03:41:13 <Wilco> thats the #1 reason for jB :)
Jul 16 03:41:20 <Wilco> bryn:  Play The DIG
Jul 16 03:41:23 <Sausage> well till it was stolen... but i'm getting a gs this week
Jul 16 03:41:26 <Wilco> awesome ScumVM game
Jul 16 03:41:40 <bryn> Wilco: Already got the original copy :)
Jul 16 03:41:43 <phi|o> planetbeing they have to make an effort but come on lets be honest if an exploit that worked on touch 2g worked on their flagship 3gs how hard are they really trying?
Jul 16 03:41:45 <IphoneGeekStr> big deal all phones should be unloced by law
Jul 16 03:41:49 <Wilco> bryn:  me too :)
Jul 16 03:41:50 <Sausage> Tiy:  how is the nes on gs?
Jul 16 03:41:50 <bryn> havent put it on my iphone yet though
Jul 16 03:41:54 <bryn> replaying DOTT at the moment
Jul 16 03:41:57 <Wilco> I even boght the The Dig SoundTrack
Jul 16 03:41:59 <Tiy> havent tried it Sausage, I tried snes
Jul 16 03:42:03 <bryn> then indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis
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Jul 16 03:42:07 <Sausage> frames?
Jul 16 03:42:10 <Wilco> found it in VirginMega Store in the UK YEARS ago
Jul 16 03:42:11 <Sausage> sound?
Jul 16 03:42:15 <Tiy> basically 60fps with sound
Jul 16 03:42:19 <Tiy> but it had some weird issues
Jul 16 03:42:25 <Tiy> which I think were just app issues 
Jul 16 03:42:28 <Sausage> much improvement from 3g?
Jul 16 03:42:35 <Wilco> bryn:  wait a minute you play it on the iphone??/
Jul 16 03:42:37 <Tiy> like the app would flash and i could see the springboard behind, and then frames would drop
Jul 16 03:42:40 <Wilco> u serious?
Jul 16 03:42:45 <IphoneGeekStr> if u sign a contract and leave early the only thing required is to pay for the phone in full but it should be unlocked
Jul 16 03:42:45 <bryn> yup
Jul 16 03:42:55 <Sausage> 600mhz is a lot more than 400 soo...
Jul 16 03:42:56 <Tiy> but when it was working fine, the app emulated at full speed
Jul 16 03:42:58 <Wilco> bryn:  - tell me how :) !?
Jul 16 03:43:09 <bryn> Wilco: Download scummVM4iphone in cydia
Jul 16 03:43:10 <Sausage> how were the buttons? annoying?
Jul 16 03:43:17 <Wilco> awesome
Jul 16 03:43:17 <planetbeing> phi|o: They've activated an epic coprocessor to obfuscate their iBoot crypto. They FAKE using the existing crypto hardware, but actually have the coprocessor catch it and perform it with a key based on a hash of the entire image file. :P
Jul 16 03:43:24 <planetbeing> ^ Definitely trying, kthx
Jul 16 03:43:34 <Paige> at&t will never unlock their prize money maker
Jul 16 03:43:43 <Tiy> Sausage, yup
Jul 16 03:43:46 <Tiy> buttons are always annoying
Jul 16 03:43:52 <Wilco> bryn:  does it play CDROM versions of the games - i.e the TALKIE versions?
Jul 16 03:43:53 <Sausage> at&t will not be the sole provider for long
Jul 16 03:43:58 <Tiy> I've been pushing zodttd to change the control scheme, the one he's got right now is stupid
Jul 16 03:43:58 <IphoneGeekStr> paige att are idiots
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Jul 16 03:44:12 <IphoneGeekStr> they provide crappy service
Jul 16 03:44:12 <bryn> Wilco: Yeah
Jul 16 03:44:22 <bryn> just need to upload key files to iphone
Jul 16 03:44:24 <Wilco> awesome
Jul 16 03:44:25 <IphoneGeekStr> so thats what they try to use to keep the customer
Jul 16 03:44:27 <bryn> extracted from the CD
Jul 16 03:44:34 <phi|o> ok planetbeing i give up your right they are trying hard
Jul 16 03:44:35 <phi|o> :)
Jul 16 03:44:37 <Sausage> my buddy works for V and said there is plenty of talk with apple lately
Jul 16 03:44:49 <planetbeing> I used to think they weren't actively trying to discourage jailbreaking, but that new crypto shit is sort of irrefutable.
Jul 16 03:44:57 <IphoneGeekStr> u give a good cheap service beleive me u stay with them with even a locked phone
Jul 16 03:44:59 <planetbeing> I can't think of a practical use for it than an obfuscation hurdle.
Jul 16 03:45:05 <Sausage> Tiy: yeah i didn't like the controls very much
Jul 16 03:45:11 <bryn> Wilco: Also loved Full Throttle
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Jul 16 03:45:26 <Wilco> yeah Full Throttle was an awesome game
Jul 16 03:45:29 <Wilco> i have the talkie version too
Jul 16 03:45:30 <matt> Full Throttle was epic
Jul 16 03:45:37 <IphoneGeekStr> people would not jump to tmobile
Jul 16 03:45:43 <Sausage> i just picked up a 2g nano for 10$ at a gas station... homie was broke down at the pump
Jul 16 03:45:44 <Wilco> Fate of atlantis was excellente!
Jul 16 03:45:44 <phi|o> IphoneGeekStr good and cheap have never been in the same sentence as at&t unles the word not was in the sentence
Jul 16 03:45:57 <Sausage> 4gb
Jul 16 03:46:01 <bryn> Anyone ever heard of Lula: The Sexy Empire?
Jul 16 03:46:06 <IphoneGeekStr> phi|o agreed
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Jul 16 03:46:46 <IphoneGeekStr> if they changed there aditude then they make there service better then the rest they make a killing
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Jul 16 03:46:49 <chronic> lmao, NItro's reason for releasing those is totally moot then, because that means fns /and/ xlog were gone when they posted that page :P i think they were just trying to seem like they did it themselves
Jul 16 03:46:51 <chronic> planetbeing
Jul 16 03:46:55 <Paige> tmobile is not a bad company, they just do not have the footprint in the US as they do in say the Netherlands
Jul 16 03:46:58 <chronic> they stopped that in 3.1 beta one
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Jul 16 03:47:08 <planetbeing> chronic: Haha.
Jul 16 03:47:11 <Sausage> i had tmobile for ever and loved them
Jul 16 03:47:12 <chronic> the adm shit was just like a last ditch thing 
Jul 16 03:47:16 <planetbeing> It was fun while it lasted.
Jul 16 03:47:16 <Sausage> great CS
Jul 16 03:47:23 <planetbeing> I liked not having to use an iPhone to get keys. :p
Jul 16 03:47:34 <chronic> once geo published the faux gid key, they knew it was over and went back
Jul 16 03:47:42 <planetbeing> That's too bad.
Jul 16 03:47:49 <planetbeing> I was hoping they thought we didn't know their algorithm.
Jul 16 03:47:50 <planetbeing> And try again.
Jul 16 03:47:55 <chronic> no
Jul 16 03:47:56 <planetbeing> That's why we didn't publish ours.
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Jul 16 03:47:58 <Sausage> what abouy a BT game pad?
Jul 16 03:48:01 <Sausage> about*
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Jul 16 03:48:05 <chronic> because they they would start looking past 0x1B000
Jul 16 03:48:13 <Sausage> is that to far fetched?
Jul 16 03:48:19 <chronic> and they would start changing the key
Jul 16 03:48:39 <chronic> and start obfuscating the calm2adm risc code even more
Jul 16 03:48:42 <planetbeing> Looking past 0x18000 is not really a problem.
Jul 16 03:48:44 <chronic> it would _not_ be good planet
Jul 16 03:48:45 <Sausage> i saw some mok ups/ prototypes for the iphone game dock
Jul 16 03:48:52 <planetbeing> And the RISC code isn't obfuscated at all.
Jul 16 03:49:00 <Sausage> looked pretty sweet
Jul 16 03:49:03 <planetbeing> And obfuscation can be broken now that we know that chip exists.
Jul 16 03:49:49 <chronic> planetbeing: that's how we did it, we patched command handlers since that is right where the table is :P
Jul 16 03:50:18 <chronic> until geo _reversed the fucking instruction set_ and got the faux gid key :P
Jul 16 03:50:35 <chronic> it's too bad he had to do that, because i found a datasheet a few days later lol
Jul 16 03:50:55 <Sausage> what are the BT capabilities of the gs? better than the 3g?
Jul 16 03:50:57 <planetbeing> Yeah, we had that instruction set from the beginning basically. :p
Jul 16 03:51:29 <chronic> yeah, that's an advantage :P we didn't have gray to be like "new coprocessor? oh, ok, here's the datasheet :)"
Jul 16 03:51:38 <planetbeing> He used google. :p
Jul 16 03:51:45 <chronic> well duh :P
Jul 16 03:51:55 <chronic> we just didn't look hard enough
Jul 16 03:52:05 <JBB> I see a lot of tongues
Jul 16 03:52:17 <planetbeing> I think it helped that he immediately was able to identify it as a 16-bit instruction set.
Jul 16 03:52:20 <IphoneGeekStr> guys want to get a car charger what ya think on ebayer items?
Jul 16 03:52:53 <planetbeing> Anyway, I wasn't involved in that leetness.
Jul 16 03:52:53 <Sausage> if there is a return policy..
Jul 16 03:53:04 <chronic> you weren't?
Jul 16 03:53:05 <planetbeing> I was like, MAYBE IT'S THE ADM. LOOK AT THIS BINARY BLOB LOADED INTO IT.
Jul 16 03:53:07 <planetbeing> And then.
Jul 16 03:53:21 <planetbeing> Six hours later, gray comes back with the listing with comments.
Jul 16 03:53:32 <planetbeing> He wasn't even in the channel at the time.
Jul 16 03:53:43 <IphoneGeekStr> more concerned about it being releiable to not causing damage to the iphone
Jul 16 03:53:45 <planetbeing> I don't even know if he got the adm part from me or just found it on his own.
Jul 16 03:53:46 <chronic> lmao
Jul 16 03:53:48 <chronic> nice
Jul 16 03:53:51 <bluey-> mhh is it possible to install the new ultrasn0w release without cydia? in the past i used a prepared bundle for pwnagetool but the mobilesubstrate now... i'm not quite sure anymore
Jul 16 03:54:11 <Sausage> IphoneGeekStr:  its mainly a 5v usb connection
Jul 16 03:54:22 <Sausage> not a lot of room for failure
Jul 16 03:54:51 <chronic> planetbeing: also, the S5L8700 datasheet, take a look at that
Jul 16 03:54:58 <IphoneGeekStr> ok cause seemed like my motorola did not like some 
Jul 16 03:55:00 <Sausage> but... you can get a car charger from auto zone for $10
Jul 16 03:55:05 <planetbeing> I've seen it.
Jul 16 03:55:09 <chronic> it takes a bit about the adm and even has some common registers with the S5L8900 one
Jul 16 03:55:14 <planetbeing> I think it has better NAND stuff.
Jul 16 03:55:14 * Sausage owns one works great
Jul 16 03:55:19 <planetbeing> Oh, really?
Jul 16 03:55:23 <chronic> yup
Jul 16 03:55:35 <planetbeing> What's adm stand for? :p
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Jul 16 03:56:03 <chronic> go to page 155
Jul 16 03:56:11 <canTouchThis> HighJinx, is any jailbreak for iPod1gen 3.1beta2 aviable ?
Jul 16 03:56:25 <canTouchThis> _hi, is any jailbreak for iPod1gen 3.1beta2 aviable ?
Jul 16 03:56:29 <planetbeing> I don't want to open it right now.
Jul 16 03:56:35 <planetbeing> I'm TRYING to go to sleep. :p
Jul 16 03:56:39 <chronic> it stands for CalmADM2E
Jul 16 03:56:52 <planetbeing> CalmADM2E.
Jul 16 03:56:57 <planetbeing> That has ADM in it. :P
Jul 16 03:57:03 <chronic> yup
Jul 16 03:57:15 <Sausage> canTouchThis: i dont think talking about that is cool in this room yet
Jul 16 03:57:15 <planetbeing> So we still don't know what it stands for. :p
Jul 16 03:57:30 <planetbeing> Oh, it's an audio DSP.
Jul 16 03:57:37 <canTouchThis> k1d, zhanx for your answer Sausage 
Jul 16 03:58:10 <Sausage> haven't been here for a week but when i wa trying to ask about the 3gs i got booted
Jul 16 03:58:24 <Sausage> maybe it's ok now dont know
Jul 16 03:59:02 <chronic> planetbeing, example of a common reg:
Jul 16 03:59:04 <chronic> BASE + 50h Mode: read/write 
Jul 16 03:59:04 <chronic> Bit Name Description 
Jul 16 03:59:05 <chronic> [31:4] adm_ibase Higher 28 bits of CalmRISC instruction area base address 
Jul 16 03:59:05 <chronic> [3:0]  Lower 4 bits of CalmRISC instruction area base address, fixed to 0 
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Jul 16 03:59:22 <chronic> register 0x50, aka, payload address
Jul 16 03:59:28 <Sausage> sometimes this room can be touchy on topis about unlock and hakcs
Jul 16 03:59:37 <matt> what do you guys use to disassemble?
Jul 16 03:59:43 <Sausage> bad keys sry
Jul 16 03:59:47 <silent_pr> wow fucking a
Jul 16 03:59:56 <planetbeing> Sausage: Only about betas that few people have legitimate access to.
Jul 16 03:59:59 <silent_pr> finally figured out the bios file name for sega cd
Jul 16 04:00:15 <fus10nx> I just read the TUAW article (http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/15/international-iphone-users-bringing-your-iphone-to-the-states/) and I'm wondering if this applies to me as well...i unlocked my UK cell phone (just moved here from the States) and I sitll have my ATT SIM. My US iphone broke so I've got my UK iPhone unlocked and my US SIM....will I be charged crazy rates wheN i get back to the states using my UK iPhone w/ my US SIM?
Jul 16 04:00:20 <planetbeing> No one likes working on the betas anyway, it's like digging a hole in water.
Jul 16 04:00:23 <fus10nx> or will I just be charged the typical ATT US rates
Jul 16 04:00:24 <Sausage> ite g2k
Jul 16 04:00:25 <fus10nx> quite confusing
Jul 16 04:00:37 <chronic> matt: IDA Pro is nice
Jul 16 04:01:01 <Sausage> well i'm out my g/f is fudgin her huggies wanting me to come to bed
Jul 16 04:01:04 <Sausage> peace
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Jul 16 04:01:13 <planetbeing> fus10nx: That article seemed kind of suspect to me.
Jul 16 04:01:19 <canTouchThis> some people must test her software on upcoming OS versions
Jul 16 04:01:23 <fus10nx> she doesnt mention unlocking
Jul 16 04:01:28 <planetbeing> I can't believe he wasn't able to find a T-mobile store that will sell him a prepaid SIM.
Jul 16 04:01:38 <fus10nx> ohhh
Jul 16 04:01:39 <fus10nx> no
Jul 16 04:01:42 <fus10nx> she does...
Jul 16 04:01:51 <fus10nx> his essentially means international travelers with perfectly good, unlocked iPhones now pretty much have iPod touches unless they want to mortgage their homes to pay international roaming charges.
Jul 16 04:02:02 <fus10nx> thank god I read this before I went back home
Jul 16 04:02:06 <fus10nx> ill have to use my cracked screen iphone
Jul 16 04:03:24 <matt> chronic: does the freeware version have support
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Jul 16 04:03:32 <chronic> no
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Jul 16 04:04:49 <bryn> Wilco: Fate of Atlantis works perfectly on iphone :)
Jul 16 04:05:06 <fus10nx> man, this really pisses me off
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Jul 16 04:05:33 <Wilco> cool
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Jul 16 04:06:04 * Wilco seriously thinking for restoring his iphone to get GPS working again.... :(
Jul 16 04:06:27 <IphoneGeekStr> my gps works?
Jul 16 04:06:35 <IphoneGeekStr> whats wrong with gps?
Jul 16 04:06:41 <Wilco> mine does not. not a single app can find a signal
Jul 16 04:07:28 <Wilco> no idea why but its the first time i try gps/google maps with fw 3.0 (im on iphone 3G)
Jul 16 04:07:28 <Wilco> found at least another dude with the same prob on dev team's blog
Jul 16 04:07:33 <bryn> Wilco: Are you in a steel box?
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Jul 16 04:07:39 <Wilco> hehe
Jul 16 04:07:42 <Wilco> i went out :)
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Jul 16 04:08:01 <Wilco> tried from the balcony too - worked before with 2.2 and a month ago in paris  & london 
Jul 16 04:08:21 <IphoneGeekStr> then i try to restore and redo it
Jul 16 04:08:37 <Wilco> i guess i have no choice.
Jul 16 04:08:53 <Wilco> just restore from itunes right ? nothing special?
Jul 16 04:08:57 <Paige> wilco are you just jb or unlocked as well?
Jul 16 04:09:07 <Wilco> im JB + ultrasn0wed 0.9
Jul 16 04:09:15 <Wilco> removed ultrasn0w - same problem
Jul 16 04:09:34 <Wilco> the only other hack i got installed is SB Settings
Jul 16 04:09:47 <fus10nx> I need to get a definitive answer on this...it seems that if I have my UK purchase iPhone and I come to the US with it and put my ATT SIM card in it, it'll wrk fine without being charged an insane amount
Jul 16 04:09:49 <Paige> same problem even with an at&t sim and not unlocked?
Jul 16 04:10:01 <FxChiP> and now
Jul 16 04:10:01 <FxChiP> I pass out
Jul 16 04:10:07 * FxChiP is now known as FxChiP|Zzz
Jul 16 04:10:13 <FxChiP|Zzz> Hacker attacks make me sleeepy
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Jul 16 04:10:21 <Wilco> I'm not an AT&T - im on a locked phone , using Orange Israel SIM.
Jul 16 04:10:28 <Wilco> it all worked before with 2.2
Jul 16 04:10:38 <Wilco> and yellowsn0w
Jul 16 04:10:40 <Paige> fus10nx, the only real way to know is to contact both carriers
Jul 16 04:10:54 <fus10nx> they aren't gonna tell me if it's ok to unlock ha ha
Jul 16 04:11:06 <fus10nx> but i figured the charges were done by the SIM, not by the phone
Jul 16 04:11:21 <Paige> no, but they will tell you if what the charges on the respective networks would be
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Jul 16 04:11:33 <Paige> or at least they should tell you
Jul 16 04:11:39 <fus10nx> but i persume it'll be my local charges
Jul 16 04:11:47 <fus10nx> the SIM cards are what would matter I would persume, right?
Jul 16 04:11:51 <fus10nx> the device is just the device
Jul 16 04:11:53 <Paige> yes
Jul 16 04:12:02 <FxChiP|Zzz> also
Jul 16 04:12:04 <FxChiP|Zzz> before I really go to bed
Jul 16 04:12:08 <FxChiP|Zzz> sendmail can *suck my balls*
Jul 16 04:12:12 <fus10nx> hha
Jul 16 04:12:23 <FxChiP|Zzz> "here, if you want to make a config change, you have to change this file and then run make"
Jul 16 04:12:32 <FxChiP|Zzz> Me: "wait, run *make*? WHAT THE FUCK."
Jul 16 04:12:47 <Paige> if you have an at&t sim for instance like a prepaid account, then you should only accrue charges on at&t network
Jul 16 04:13:05 <FxChiP|Zzz> night all
Jul 16 04:13:10 <FxChiP|Zzz> much love to all of you
Jul 16 04:13:13 <FxChiP|Zzz> especially Paige and sarah 
Jul 16 04:13:50 <FxChiP|Zzz> may you eventually make peace :D
Jul 16 04:13:51 <Paige> but if you are using a uk sim, then you would accrue international rates in while in the us
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Jul 16 04:13:58 <Paige> good night FxChiP|Zzz 
Jul 16 04:14:04 <FxChiP|Zzz> I AM REALLY TIRED. *dies*
Jul 16 04:14:09 <Paige> so am i
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Jul 16 04:14:13 <Paige> exhausted
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Jul 16 04:16:11 <matt> what time is it where you are now
Jul 16 04:16:24 <Paige> 0416
Jul 16 04:16:32 <matt> ah
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Jul 16 04:16:53 <Paige> been up for almost 24 hours now :p
Jul 16 04:16:53 <Neeku> hi
Jul 16 04:16:55 <Neeku> could you please check and tell me what permission number should this file have:
Jul 16 04:17:04 <Neeku>  /private/var/mobile/Library/AddressBook
Jul 16 04:17:10 <Neeku> i had made a manual backup of that and now after replacing it manually, i can't save any new contact info, i guess it's the permission issue
Jul 16 04:17:16 <matt> bare with me
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Jul 16 04:17:33 <Tiraspol> I like vagina.
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Jul 16 04:17:43 <Paige> Tiraspol, me too!
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Jul 16 04:17:54 <iGuru> fus10nx charges will be via sim
Jul 16 04:17:56 <Tiraspol> I like boobies.
Jul 16 04:18:10 <matt> Neeku that directory has 0700 permissions
Jul 16 04:18:10 <Angel111> hi
Jul 16 04:18:14 <Paige> i like em too, but not too big
Jul 16 04:18:32 <Paige> hi Angel111 
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Jul 16 04:18:34 <Tiraspol> :)
Jul 16 04:18:43 <matt> inside the files are 644
Jul 16 04:18:54 <matt> user mobile:mobile
Jul 16 04:19:05 <Angel111> do you know guys where i van find Navionics charts for iphone? thanks
Jul 16 04:19:19 <iGuru> fus10nx, if you "unoficially" unlock a phone, and put a new sin in, you're hardly going to be charged on the original dim
Jul 16 04:19:33 <iGuru> *sim
Jul 16 04:19:49 <Neeku> matt could you please tell me the permission for the files, too? files in the dir
Jul 16 04:19:54 <Neeku> because it's already like that
Jul 16 04:19:56 <Paige> Angel111, i guess that you have tried google?
Jul 16 04:20:07 <matt> yes they are 0644, user mobile, group mobile
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Jul 16 04:20:22 <matt> yo sup todd
Jul 16 04:20:22 <Z00L|NotHere> Neeku: check owner....mobile
Jul 16 04:20:26 <Paige> morning ToddJG 
Jul 16 04:20:27 <Z00L|NotHere> ermmm..what matt said
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Jul 16 04:20:57 <Neeku> Z00L|NotHere, it's already 0700 but it doesn't add new info there
Jul 16 04:21:06 <Neeku> i save it, then check it back and there's nothing added
Jul 16 04:21:27 <matt> what about the files inside
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Jul 16 04:21:48 <Z00L|NotHere> i also put my address sqlite files manually from 2.2 and it works :o
Jul 16 04:21:54 <Neeku> matt 0644
Jul 16 04:22:04 <Neeku> shall i make it 0700 or 0666?
Jul 16 04:22:08 <WaTdaHecK> i have no idea whats goin on in my cydia..network error unable to load(timed out)..but i can surf in safari..i already restore to original fw and re JB but same result cydia dont work
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Jul 16 04:22:25 <matt> it shouldnt make a difference, you run as mobile so 0644 should suffice
Jul 16 04:22:44 <Paige> sleep time
Jul 16 04:22:53 <WaTdaHecK> any idea?
Jul 16 04:22:53 <Neeku> matt then why doesn't it save new info? :(
Jul 16 04:23:00 <Paige> later y'all