copumpkin
ctrlfreq: around?
10:41 PM @copumpkin
ctrlbook?
10:41 PM ctrlbook is now known as robotchicken
10:43 PM @copumpkin
robotchicken: okay, you're here
10:51 PM  
ctrlfreq, robotchicken
10:53 PM  
robotchicken: I know you're there, your idle counter keeps resetting :P
10:56 PM robotchicken
sorry
10:56 PM  
i wasnt ignoring
10:56 PM @copumpkin
alright
10:56 PM  
so
10:56 PM  
paypal disputes for blindness
10:56 PM robotchicken
if im in one channel, i dont see all the ones below.
10:56 PM @copumpkin
what's your story
10:56 PM robotchicken
one sec
10:56 PM  
he says i accused him of fraud
10:56 PM  
that is what i disagree with
10:56 PM @copumpkin
I don't care what he says
10:57 PM  
what do you say?
10:57 PM robotchicken
this is the transcript of what happened
10:57 PM  
well
10:57 PM  
being honest
10:57 PM  
i gave money to someone i considered a friend.
10:58 PM  
then i found out this friend was going to all the irc ops saying i was taking peoples privs etc and more or less betrayed me pretty nastily rather than EVER raise a grievance with me personally
10:58 PM  
so, im an immature dick sometimes
10:58 PM  
im pretty sure thats common knowledge already
10:58 PM @copumpkin
so you did encourage people to dispute claims with him?
10:58 PM robotchicken
god no
10:58 PM  
i just disputed mine
10:58 PM  
i didnt even tell anyone i did it
10:58 PM  
he told everyone
10:58 PM @copumpkin
hrm
10:59 PM robotchicken
then ive had a million people coming and bitching at me since
10:59 PM  
i admitted it was a dick thing to do
10:59 PM  
but he's in there non stop talking about how i accused him of fraud
10:59 PM tjcarter
15:42 <thew00> ya, someone told me that you werent really blind
10:59 PM  
15:43 <thew00> hence: the chipin thing was a hoax
10:59 PM Zigtown has joined the channel.
10:59 PM robotchicken
which simply isnt true
10:59 PM @copumpkin
robotchicken: did you say anything to Zigtown?
10:59 PM robotchicken
not that i recall specifically. no
10:59 PM  
i mean ive talked to him, but i never told anyone anything about that
10:59 PM @copumpkin
07:55 <%ctrlfreq> why should i be expected to act more honorably than a backstabber?
11:00 PM robotchicken
i said that.
11:00 PM  
true enough.
11:00 PM tjcarter
of course, a few lines up..
11:00 PM  
15:41 <thew00> just don't get the wrong feeling, i like you, not sure if i should tell you this
11:00 PM  
15:41 <thew00> no, not that
11:00 PM  
15:41 <tjcarter> am I not really blind yet?
11:00 PM  
15:42 <tjcarter> that one will happen before too long.
11:00 PM robotchicken
i can explain my comment about that as well
11:00 PM  
its not nearly so sinister as our butthurt companion would like to make out
11:00 PM @copumpkin
07:54 <%ctrlfreq> i know paypal, and i know how to work it.
11:00 PM robotchicken
i thought he was supposed to be completely blind
11:01 PM  
he always tells me if i say a girl is hot that she looks too this or that
11:01 PM  
and he describes what he doesnt like about them fairly well
11:01 PM  
its comfusing to me
11:01 PM  
i dunno
11:01 PM  
i dont know how a blind person could find one woman more attractive than another
11:01 PM @copumpkin
there's legal blindness
11:01 PM tjcarter
I've described countless times how I do what I do, including the large fonts, low light levels, the purple-white pain that I "see" in sunlight.
11:01 PM robotchicken
i didnt tell w00 that tjcarter isnt blind
11:01 PM @copumpkin
and there's like "zomg I haz no eyes"
11:01 PM robotchicken
not to me you havent tj
11:01 PM  
in fact, you dont seem to tell me much of anything
11:02 PM  
not things im doing that are bothering you, not anything
11:02 PM  
anyway
11:02 PM @copumpkin
robotchicken: but your ignorance of the details of blindness is not good justification for spreading rumors about his "true condition" or whatever
11:02 PM robotchicken
before you keep talking all that shit about me accusing you of fraud
11:02 PM @copumpkin
if you didn't think it was possible
11:02 PM  
google it
11:02 PM robotchicken
i didnt spread any rumors
11:02 PM @copumpkin
and find out about it
11:02 PM robotchicken
i didnt spread a single rumor
11:02 PM tjcarter
http://tjcarter.chipin.com/sim-free-iphone-3gs-for-tjcarter
11:02 PM robotchicken
i didnt tell w00 that shit
11:02 PM  
not like that
11:02 PM tjcarter
A lot of you probably also know that tjcarter is blind. He has some vision under limited circumstances, but he got into the iPhone because of its pinch zoom feature. Of course, as more and more things become "Designed for iPhone", fewer and fewer pages support the feature. In addition to his involvement in the iPhone hacking community, tjcarter has also been submitting radars (bug reports/feature requests) to Apple since September
11:02 PM robotchicken
he came at me all accusatorily.
11:02 PM  
tj
11:03 PM  
fuck off
11:03 PM  
you dont deserve my money
11:03 PM  
hands down
11:03 PM @copumpkin
robotchicken: deserve?
11:03 PM robotchicken
what i did was childish and spiteful
11:03 PM  
that is correct
11:03 PM tjcarter
It was returned
11:03 PM robotchicken
i gave money to someone id considered a friend
11:03 PM  
you betrayed me in a very not-friend kinda way
11:03 PM @copumpkin
robotchicken: what was his epic backstab by the way?
11:03 PM robotchicken
i didnt tell paypal that you lied to me
11:03 PM  
i said i misunderstood
11:04 PM  
might have been a lie, but certainly not one to portray you in ANY kind of negative light
11:04 PM  
so get the fuck over it
11:04 PM  
pumpkin: he had some kind of issue with me.
11:04 PM  
didnt like how i talked in channel
11:04 PM  
at first it was allegedly that i talked about sex and or drugs too much
11:04 PM  
goes over my head, directly asking to have my privs stripped
11:05 PM  
this is about a month ago
11:05 PM tjcarter
"Done being chanop in #iPhone. Abusive, mostly about sex/drugs now. +q should prevent, not promote it. + K/B talk of @geohot hacks?"
11:05 PM  
that's exactly what I said
11:05 PM  
and I set myself -o
11:05 PM  
and um, I never talked to sam until afterward
11:05 PM  
chronic got sam's attention, sam said holy shit, and took action
11:05 PM  
based on what was happening in channel right that minute
11:06 PM robotchicken
then, after i removed a ban sarah set on someone for saying they wanted to bang megan fox, she and tj go to sam, and do the same sob story, only now saying that im taking peoples priveleges away, banning abusively, and completely out of order in the channel
11:06 PM tjcarter
I had nothing to do with that
11:06 PM robotchicken
so THAT, i consider as being backstabbed
11:06 PM  
bullshit
11:06 PM tjcarter
I had set myself -o and was done playing the game
11:06 PM robotchicken
i know what you said and who you said it to tj
11:06 PM @copumpkin
we can just ask sam when he gets back
11:06 PM robotchicken
you NEVER came to me with your grievances
11:06 PM  
you went straight to drudge.
11:06 PM  
no, ask drudge
11:06 PM  
he went to him a month ago, like i said
11:06 PM @copumpkin
I'll ask him when he gets back then
11:06 PM robotchicken
this is well before me losing my ~
11:07 PM @copumpkin
but anyway
11:07 PM robotchicken
i dont know why it matter
11:07 PM  
matters
11:07 PM tjcarter
Yes, I did talk to drudge a month ago
11:07 PM robotchicken
yep
11:07 PM  
then the same allegations arise recently
11:07 PM tjcarter
because it was drudge's decision, not mine
11:07 PM robotchicken
and now youre all butthurt because you lost your shit too
11:07 PM  
get over it
11:07 PM tjcarter
I disagreed with the decision he made, and I told him why
11:07 PM robotchicken
nobodies harrassing you
11:07 PM  
nobody even wants to talk to you
11:07 PM tjcarter
I FUCKING GAVE UP CHANOP
11:07 PM  
THEN I LEFT THE CHANNEL
11:07 PM robotchicken
fuck off
11:07 PM  
your shit got took
11:08 PM tjcarter
I walked away.
11:08 PM robotchicken
izsh was pissed at all of us
11:08 PM  
please
11:08 PM  
call it that if you want
11:08 PM  
you two retards went and acted like babies.
11:08 PM tjcarter
that tweet was me, walking away
11:08 PM robotchicken
then dad came down, punished us all, and you two cant handle it
11:08 PM  
i dont want anything to do with this nonsense
11:08 PM tjcarter
before any of this shit happened
11:08 PM  
I set myself -o and said I was done
11:08 PM robotchicken
you and sarah have been in the channel whining about how horrible i was and everything else for like 4 hours the other night
11:09 PM  
when she had her meltdown
11:09 PM tjcarter
and I was already -o
11:09 PM  
by choice
11:09 PM robotchicken
just leave me the fuck alone, keep my name out of your fucking mouth and stay away from me.
11:09 PM  
my hero, how wonderfully humble and righteous of you
11:09 PM  
im over it
11:09 PM tjcarter
can you carry on a conversation for a minute without the word "fuck"?
11:09 PM robotchicken
i dont care, im not trying to have anything to do with this
11:09 PM  
i dont need to
11:09 PM tjcarter
obviously not.
11:10 PM robotchicken
i dont have any kind of arbitrary fear of god or what will happen if i say certain words
11:10 PM  
i just dont care
11:10 PM  
like
11:10 PM  
couldnt care less
11:10 PM tjcarter
My objection is some level of professionalism
11:10 PM robotchicken
im so tired of this shit
11:10 PM  
im sorry
11:10 PM tjcarter
there used to be some in #iphone
11:10 PM robotchicken
i didnt realize i was getting paid
11:10 PM  
please
11:10 PM tjcarter
not much sometimes, but there was some
11:10 PM robotchicken
there hasnt been in a year
11:10 PM  
at least
11:10 PM tjcarter
now there is none
11:10 PM robotchicken
as i said, sarah is THE worst ban abuser ive seen in that channel
11:10 PM  
second being hozy
11:11 PM tjcarter
well sir, I do believe I know who has been running the channel.
11:11 PM robotchicken
you could flip them around, wouldnt matter
11:11 PM  
yeah
11:11 PM  
and you know who implemented rules like no banning for stupid shit anymore
11:11 PM  
and who was clearing the banlist EVERY day for the last month
11:11 PM  
to keep from abuse, when i wasnt around
11:11 PM tjcarter
I'm the only person involved whose bans have not generated complaints.
11:12 PM robotchicken
and you know who said there wouldnt be any more tolerance of people being called faggot, gay or any of that shit
11:12 PM tjcarter
and it's not because I didn't make them, either.
11:12 PM robotchicken
no mocking religions
11:12 PM  
no mocking orientation
11:12 PM  
i did that shit
11:12 PM  
and you know what else?
11:12 PM  
ive been seriously irc'ing less than a year
11:13 PM  
i was making very positive changes in the channel, and rather than act like a grown up, your pussy ass goes running around to everyone the fuck else in the channel, talking shit about me
11:13 PM  
have you NOTICED how many people like me here?
11:13 PM  
you dont think they tell me EVERYTHING?
11:13 PM  
im not trying to brag
11:13 PM tjcarter
I've been on irc or something similar for about 16 years.  That's why I just set myself -o and decided not to participate.
11:13 PM robotchicken
but i get along well with people
11:13 PM  
wow
11:13 PM  
what a martyr
11:13 PM  
dont admit that maybe youve persued this wrong
11:14 PM  
way to bury your head in the sand so you can continue acting like a child
11:14 PM  
like i said
11:14 PM  
dont fucking talk about me anymore
11:14 PM  
just leave me the fuck alone
11:14 PM tjcarter
this coming from the guy who's "fuck this", "fuck that", "fuck you"
11:14 PM robotchicken
yeah
11:14 PM  
it is
11:14 PM  
so leave me alone
11:14 PM tjcarter
and I'm childish.
11:14 PM robotchicken
expletives are called that for exactly that reason
11:14 PM  
im irritated
11:14 PM  
i dont care about this shit
11:15 PM tjcarter
Yet... I left channel, and THEN word goes out that I'm not really blind...
11:15 PM robotchicken
please
11:15 PM  
i asked you about it to your face
11:15 PM  
the night you were telling me about megan fox not being hot
11:15 PM  
i said "for a blind guy, you sure have no difficulty determining who is attractive physically or not, what gives"
11:16 PM  
is it that big a deal?
11:16 PM  
tjcarter i do solemnly swear that i believe you are legally blind
11:16 PM  
now for fucks sake, can you please get out of your feelings?
11:16 PM tjcarter
so that warrants the word going out after I leave the channel that I'm not blind and the chipin was a hoax?
11:16 PM robotchicken
how are you SOOOOO bothered over irc?
11:16 PM tjcarter
since you're friends with so many people and all
11:17 PM robotchicken
the word went out while you were in channel
11:17 PM  
like i said
11:17 PM  
i publicly asked you what i did, while you were in the room
11:17 PM tjcarter
because I left the channel and still very personal vendetta shit continues to happen
11:17 PM robotchicken
you gave some answer too.
11:17 PM  
please
11:17 PM  
nothing is happening
11:17 PM tjcarter
but where you're from, that's how you handle it.
11:17 PM  
You said so yourself.
11:17 PM robotchicken
youre a paranoid delusional freak
11:17 PM  
bullshit
11:17 PM tjcarter
again with the name calling
11:17 PM robotchicken
i said where im from, id confront you
11:18 PM  
im tired of this
11:18 PM  
bye
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11:18 PM tjcarter
well that was pointless.
11:19 PM  
and it accomplished nothing IMO except to demonstrate that ctrlfreq can't actually have a discussion without personal attacks, explitives, and dragging everything down to his own level.
11:19 PM  
I stand by my assertion that nothing will end if I return to #iphone, so I will not.
11:20 PM @copumpkin
or just /ignore him, rejoin, and it seems to me like he'll stop spreading rumors about you and will just refuse to talk to you too
11:20 PM  
/ignore each other
11:20 PM tjcarter
If I actually believed the rumors would stop, that might be true
11:20 PM @copumpkin
ah well, I believe they will, but I can't really do much
11:20 PM tjcarter
except ... ignoring an op is not something you can really do, hop or otherwise.
11:21 PM  
that tends to get people banned, legitimately.
11:21 PM @copumpkin
we don't g-line on rumors, it's unpleasant but is a personal issue
11:21 PM  
I've tried to resolve it but I honestly have a lot of shit going on in my own life
11:21 PM tjcarter
well, #iphone's not my channel
11:21 PM @copumpkin
and can't act as a judge
11:22 PM tjcarter
and after all of that, if the nature of the problem isn't clear, I don't know what more I can do.
11:22 PM @copumpkin
the nature is quite clear, but it's not something I can do something about
11:23 PM  
it's surely an unpleasant situation for you
11:23 PM  
but I can't go g-line him from the server because of that
11:23 PM  
so if it can't be worked out by the two of you talking about it, I'm not sure what else to do
11:23 PM tjcarter
I cite Cujo and sunny.
11:24 PM  
Cujo felt mistreated in #iphone by sunny (after he posted zibri's cell # to channel and she kicked him out for it)
11:24 PM  
...so he called her boss and reported her as a sexual predator
11:24 PM  
that got him a g:line
11:25 PM  
which he tried to evade several times, proving it was well-earned, mind you.
11:25 PM @copumpkin
yeah, there were different circumstances and different opers at the time
11:26 PM tjcarter
well, lemme put it another way:
11:26 PM @copumpkin
and basically, I'm fucking tired of this, I can barely pay my bills and I'm sorry it's unpleasant for you but I don't feel comfortable g-lining a guy given the evidence prevented, but all I can say is, please just deal with it
11:26 PM  
*presented
11:26 PM tjcarter
if he's the kind of person #iphone has running the channel, I want nothing to do with it.
11:26 PM @copumpkin
okay, so be it
11:26 PM tjcarter
And he's still running the channel
11:26 PM @copumpkin
I can't deal with this any more
11:27 PM tjcarter
That's where I was after the whole "where I'm from" thing, and it's not changed.
11:27 PM @copumpkin
okay, well you'll have to deal with it some other way
11:27 PM  
or get iZsh interested or something like that
11:27 PM  
but I'm done
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11:28 PM tjcarter
I guess that makes me too
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