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1250778243 232 14:24:03 < trx> you add them to type section
1250778243 232 14:24:03 < trx> but you have to create them manualy
1250778244 232 14:24:04 < trx> :)
1250778264 232 14:24:24 < trx> and buttons and stuff on them on runtime..
1250778300 232 14:25:00 < trx> you can't use delphi's designer to design them
1250778308 232 14:25:08 < trx> there is no .dfm
1250778308 232 14:25:08 < ~AYU_> lol ok
1250778310 232 14:25:10 < trx> :))
1250778315 232 14:25:15 < trx> but you dont need that..
1250778316 232 14:25:16 < trx> :)
1250778318 232 14:25:18 < trx> and now
1250778320 232 14:25:20 < ~AYU_> yeah
1250778323 232 14:25:23 < trx> we come to
1250778327 232 14:25:27 < trx> the last section
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1250778335 232 14:25:35 < trx> published declarations
1250778351 232 14:25:51 < ~AYU_> i dont even see it in my unit pas
1250778352 232 14:25:52 < ~AYU_> :D
1250778358 232 14:25:58 < trx> thats because
1250778361 232 14:26:01 < trx> you use it
1250778372 232 14:26:12 < trx> when for example you
1250778381 232 14:26:21 < trx> are making a new component
1250778386 232 14:26:26 < trx> then you use it
1250778396 232 14:26:36 < trx> for variables and events
1250778406 232 14:26:46 < trx> wich are shown in designer
1250778416 232 14:26:56 < ~AYU_> ahh
1250778419 232 14:26:59 < trx> in object inspector
1250778421 232 14:27:01 < ~AYU_> new components like buttons ?
1250778424 232 14:27:04 < trx> like captin and stuff
1250778429 232 14:27:09 < trx> Caption*
1250778432 232 14:27:12 < ~AYU_> ah
1250778434 232 14:27:14 < ~AYU_> wow
1250778441 232 14:27:21 < ~AYU_> its too expert for me :D
1250778446 232 14:27:26 < trx> yes :)
1250778450 232 14:27:30 < trx> there
1250778455 232 14:27:35 < ~AYU_> i see good atleast i have an idea about what it is
1250778458 232 14:27:38 < trx> you dont do x : integer;
1250778461 232 14:27:41 < trx> you do :
1250778505 232 14:28:25 < trx> property X : integer read SomeVar write SomeVar default someValue
1250778512 232 14:28:32 < trx> thats just an example..
1250778532 232 14:28:52 < trx> but you dont need that for now..
1250778540 232 14:29:00 < ~AYU_> ok
1250778541 232 14:29:01 < ~AYU_> ty
1250778548 232 14:29:08 < trx> you dont need protected either for now :)
1250778550 232 14:29:10 < ~AYU_> may i get your msn adress if you allow ?
1250778553 232 14:29:13 < trx> no problem
1250778559 232 14:29:19 < trx> i dont have msn
1250778569 232 14:29:29 < trx> im here only...
1250778571 232 14:29:31 < ~AYU_> i see
1250778574 232 14:29:34 < ~AYU_> this was
1250778577 232 14:29:37 < ~AYU_> irc.freenode.org ?
1250778596 232 14:29:56 < trx> irc.freenode.net
1250778614 232 14:30:14 < ~AYU_> . /server irc.freenode.net;/join ##delphi
1250778624 232 14:30:24 < ~AYU_> ok :)
1250778631 232 14:30:31 < trx> ;)
1250778640 232 14:30:40 < trx> gtg now
1250778642 232 14:30:42 < ~AYU_> well i won't be at home i am moving etc.. but i will see you later
1250778650 232 14:30:50 < ~AYU_> umm
1250778654 232 14:30:54 < ~AYU_> hang on  a second
1250778658 232 14:30:58 < trx> yes?
1250778674 232 14:31:14 < ~AYU_> ok just  gathered my mind lol
1250778677 232 14:31:17 < ~AYU_> after learning many things
1250778682 232 14:31:22 < trx> how old are you anyways?
1250778686 232 14:31:26 < ~AYU_> 1 question its small if you have a second
1250778688 232 14:31:28 < ~AYU_> im 19
1250778691 232 14:31:31 < trx> :)
1250778693 232 14:31:33 < trx> me too
1250778697 232 14:31:37 < ~AYU_> will move first my home to another place
1250778704 232 14:31:44 < ~AYU_> then i will go to another city
1250778706 232 14:31:46 < ~AYU_> for university
1250778710 232 14:31:50 < ~AYU_> 2 moves in a row
1250778713 232 14:31:53 < ~AYU_> 1st ) parents
1250778718 232 14:31:58 < ~AYU_> 2nd ) myself
1250778721 232 14:32:01 < ~AYU_> lol
1250778724 232 14:32:04 < trx> :)
1250778732 232 14:32:12 < ~AYU_> hang on a lil line 20 :D
1250778737 232 14:32:17 < trx> oh yes
1250778739 232 14:32:19 < ~AYU_> http://delphi.pastebin.com/m2091f7fb
1250778741 232 14:32:21 < ~AYU_> line 20
1250778744 232 14:32:24 < trx> yes yes
1250778745 232 14:32:25 < trx> well
1250778747 232 14:32:27 < ~AYU_> now this proc
1250778749 232 14:32:29 < trx> its like this
1250778751 232 14:32:31 < ~AYU_> isn't know by
1250778753 232 14:32:33 < ~AYU_> TForm1
1250778760 232 14:32:40 < ~AYU_> isn't known
1250778767 232 14:32:47 < trx> it is known but form1
1250778767 232 14:32:47 < ~AYU_> if this proc at line 20
1250778774 232 14:32:54 < trx> and form1 can use it
1250778784 232 14:33:04 < ~AYU_> umm ok
1250778788 232 14:33:08 < ~AYU_> i have 2 forms
1250778791 232 14:33:11 < ~AYU_> public means
1250778792 232 14:33:12 < trx> but that procedure can not use form1's private members
1250778799 232 14:33:19 < ~AYU_> yeah yeah i meant that
1250778803 232 14:33:23 < trx> yes
1250778804 232 14:33:24 < trx> now
1250778809 232 14:33:29 < ~AYU_> also
1250778812 232 14:33:32 < ~AYU_> 2 forms
1250778817 232 14:33:37 < ~AYU_> and TForm1's public
1250778821 232 14:33:41 < ~AYU_> can be seend by form2
1250778822 232 14:33:42 < ~AYU_> so...
1250778824 232 14:33:44 < ~AYU_> if i gotta use it
1250778826 232 14:33:46 < ~AYU_> what i write ?
1250778834 232 14:33:54 < trx> from form2?
1250778835 232 14:33:55 < ~AYU_> Unit1.TForm1.Variable :=
1250778838 232 14:33:58 < ~AYU_> ?
1250778841 232 14:34:01 < ~AYU_> yeah from form2
1250778842 232 14:34:02 < trx> yes
1250778847 232 14:34:07 < ~AYU_> or like
1250778856 232 14:34:16 < ~AYU_> Unit1.TForm1.Form1.Variable :P
1250778859 232 14:34:19 < trx> but you dont use class
1250778872 232 14:34:32 < trx> just Unit1.Form1.Variable := 0;
1250778877 232 14:34:37 < ~AYU_> oh
1250778878 232 14:34:38 < ~AYU_> good
1250778882 232 14:34:42 < trx> you dont use TForm1
1250778883 232 14:34:43 < ~AYU_> learned it too
1250778885 232 14:34:45 < trx> thats a class
1250778887 232 14:34:47 < ~AYU_> i see i see
1250778889 232 14:34:49 < ~AYU_> form1 is object
1250778891 232 14:34:51 < ~AYU_> no
1250778892 232 14:34:52 < ~AYU_> variable
1250778894 232 14:34:54 < trx> yes
1250778895 232 14:34:55 < trx> :)
1250778895 232 14:34:55 < ~AYU_> variable of class
1250778898 232 14:34:58 < ~AYU_> yea
1250778899 232 14:34:59 < ~AYU_> http://delphi.pastebin.com/m2091f7fb
1250778900 232 14:35:00 < ~AYU_> line 20
1250778901 232 14:35:01 < trx> now
1250778902 232 14:35:02 < ~AYU_> if i put this
1250778904 232 14:35:04 < ~AYU_> to the
1250778911 232 14:35:11 < ~AYU_> line 8
1250778917 232 14:35:17 < ~AYU_> then ?
1250778927 232 14:35:27 < trx> its the same
1250778936 232 14:35:36 < ~AYU_> aha i see
1250778939 232 14:35:39 < trx> listen about that line 20
1250778949 232 14:35:49 < ~AYU_> and this proc can't touch at TForm1 private things
1250778958 232 14:35:58 < ~AYU_> can this proc still run edit1
1250778959 232 14:35:59 < ~AYU_> like
1250778963 232 14:36:03 < ~AYU_> edit1.onclick
1250778966 232 14:36:06 < ~AYU_> buton1.onclick
1250778968 232 14:36:08 < trx> yes
1250778976 232 14:36:16 < trx> Form1.Edit1.OnClick;
1250778986 232 14:36:26 < ~AYU_> good
1250778987 232 14:36:27 < ~AYU_> ty
1250778988 232 14:36:28 < ~AYU_> see you :9
1250778991 232 14:36:31 < trx> that procedure because its defined before implementation
1250779002 232 14:36:42 < trx> can be seen from other units also
1250779003 232 14:36:43 < trx> but
1250779010 232 14:36:50 < trx> if u delete line 20
1250779014 232 14:36:54 < trx> that procedure then
1250779020 232 14:37:00 < trx> is only seen in unit1
1250779026 232 14:37:06 < ~AYU_> yeah i know
1250779031 232 14:37:11 < trx> ok then
1250779031 232 14:37:11 < ~AYU_> and if i add at name
1250779034 232 14:37:14 < ~AYU_> Proc SomeProc
1250779036 232 14:37:16 < ~AYU_> if i change it to
1250779041 232 14:37:21 < ~AYU_> Proc TForm1.SomeProc
1250779046 232 14:37:26 < ~AYU_> then it can use private of Tform ?
1250779053 232 14:37:33 < trx> yes
1250779055 232 14:37:35 < trx> but
1250779066 232 14:37:46 < trx> then line 20
1250779071 232 14:37:51 < trx> would have to be
1250779087 232 14:38:07 < trx> inside TForm1 class
1250779088 232 14:38:08 < trx> also
1250779090 232 14:38:10 < trx> ...
1250779105 232 14:38:25 < trx> really gtg now
1250779108 232 14:38:28 < ~AYU_> c ya
1250779109 232 14:38:29 < ~AYU_> ty
1250779113 232 14:38:33 < trx> no problem
1250779113 232 14:38:33 < ~AYU_> very much
1250779116 232 14:38:36 < trx> bye
1250779119 232 14:38:39 < ~AYU_> bye