[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:11:29] <vipernicus>	man, those tunables were a hit
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:11:40] <cheater-conrad>	yeah, I might rip them ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:12:02] <cheater-conrad>	10000_NoSched-rip-vipernicus-tunables.patch
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:12:05] <vipernicus>	you've got mail
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:12:58] <cheater-conrad>	you said no right?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:13:21] <cheater-conrad>	if you merge with beyond I'll have no competition ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:13:36] <cheater-conrad>	granted, there isn't really much competition anyway between -no and any of the others, because -no is -mm
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:13:40] <vipernicus>	hell no i didn't merge
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:13:59] <cheater-conrad>	being -mm automatically makes it different ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:14:10] <vipernicus>	yeah
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:14:18] <vipernicus>	i'm doing something different now too
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:14:32] <vipernicus>	going the swiss army knife route
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:14:37] <cheater-conrad>	-mm is too different to be compared though, each release varies on stability and b0rkednes
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:15:27] 	 * cheater-conrad wishes to maintain a stable patchset some time
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:15:46] <vipernicus>	it's nice
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:15:50] <vipernicus>	more options
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:16:01] <vipernicus>	you kinda back yourself into a corner with -mm
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:16:12] <cheater-conrad>	but that time is when i get overthrown as ruler of no-sources
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:16:17] <cheater-conrad>	because I can't maintain 2 patchsets
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:16:43] <vipernicus>	yeah
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:16:54] <vipernicus>	i'm handing -viper over to AStorm temporarily
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:17:01] <vipernicus>	bbl
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:17:06] <cheater-conrad>	you should hand it to me ;-(
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:17:11] <cheater-conrad>	I'd take it gladly
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:17:17] <cheater-conrad>	for a couple releases atleast
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:17:27] <cheater-conrad>	I'd love to experience what I can do with a stable patchset
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:18:33] <cheater-conrad>	seriously though, who's astorm :-p
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [20:19:36] <cheater-conrad>	but, if you want to give me atleast one release, I'd be glad to make one
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:00:47] <vipernicus>	he's a newb with kernels, but he's in that, read everything phase
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:01:09] <vipernicus>	quick learner, and already good at programming
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:01:19] <cheater-conrad>	let me take a release
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:01:23] <vipernicus>	so i told him he could help me make a few releases of viper
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:01:30] <vipernicus>	he's already nearly finished with rc5-viper1
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:29] <cheater-conrad>	AStorm used to use no-sources, I wasn't a big fan of him
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:37] <cheater-conrad>	he used to question me all the time
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:42] <cheater-conrad>	and challenge me
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:51] <vipernicus>	is that bad?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:58] <cheater-conrad>	no, just annoying as hell
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:02:59] <cheater-conrad>	:-p
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:03:01] <vipernicus>	yeah
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:03:38] <cheater-conrad>	i got tired of it, so I just started telling him," because I felt like it"
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:06:30] <cheater-conrad>	not bad though
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:06:43] <cheater-conrad>	I'm just too busy to contemplate most* things ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:06:48] <vipernicus>	yeah
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:06:53] <vipernicus>	what have you been up to lately?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:06:55] <cheater-conrad>	is viper still on plugsched?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:07:01] <vipernicus>	not really
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:07:11] <vipernicus>	http://vipernicus.evolution-mission.org/patches/2.6.18-rc4/viper3/patches/
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:07:20] <cheater-conrad>	nothing really, no computer, school, and football
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:07:23] <vipernicus>	that's my unreleased version
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:08:03] <cheater-conrad>	seriously, could you let me release atleast one release of viper
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:08:21] <cheater-conrad>	you know, I'd want to see how I could do with a vanilla
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:08:29] <vipernicus>	sure
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:08:43] <vipernicus>	maybe rc5-viper2 or rc6-viper1
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:08:52] <cheater-conrad>	I mean, just one atleast, you know I always take care of my patches for -no
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:00] <vipernicus>	yeah, i don't care
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:05] <cheater-conrad>	;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:09] <cheater-conrad>	mind if I implement NoSched?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:10] <vipernicus>	i mean for -viper to just be a playground for patches
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:16] <vipernicus>	i don't care, go for it
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:30] <vipernicus>	though, i don't see a reason to
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:42] <vipernicus>	the tunables handle most of the users needs
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:43] <cheater-conrad>	you know, NoSched = ingosched, sexy staircase, additional features
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:09:59] <vipernicus>	you have additional features now?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:03] <cheater-conrad>	the tunables are fine, I'll implement those
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:11] <cheater-conrad>	vipernicus NoSched has always had additional features
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:14] <cheater-conrad>	on staircase atleast
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:19] <cheater-conrad>	ingosched is pretty plain usually
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:27] <vipernicus>	yeah, ingosched is useless to me
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:49] <cheater-conrad>	not to several people though ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:10:55] <vipernicus>	true
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:11:54] <cheater-conrad>	I have x86, x86_64, and PPC users all dedicated to ingo
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:01] <cheater-conrad>	for reasons beyond me
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:15] <cheater-conrad>	all my PPC users seem to use it for some reason
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:27] <cheater-conrad>	they seem to be the majority that were against staircase
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:41] <vipernicus>	http://vipernicus.evolution-mission.org/patches/2.6.17/emission8/patches/
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:43] <cheater-conrad>	also, why didn't you implement rcu preempt?
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:44] <vipernicus>	ignore the genetics patch
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:12:56] <vipernicus>	but i'm getting great results with emission8
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:02] <vipernicus>	bugs
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:08] <vipernicus>	got then worked out now though
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:17] <vipernicus>	had to stay in convo with devs to fix it
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:21] <vipernicus>	it was their bug
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:26] <vipernicus>	broke classic rcu
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:29] <cheater-conrad>	if it's fixed, send me the fixed stuff
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:40] <cheater-conrad>	http://vipernicus.evolution-mission.org/patches/2.6.17/emission8/patches/029-genetic-as-2.6.17.patch
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:13:44] <cheater-conrad>	why did you even upload that :-p
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:00] <vipernicus>	going to do some benchmarks, plus someone requested it
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:18] <vipernicus>	i also had to inform jakem to build his patches over jens new git-block
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:25] <vipernicus>	same with elevator guy
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:32] <vipernicus>	they were all clueless
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:43] <cheater-conrad>	benchmarks may be deceiving
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:46] <cheater-conrad>	do it extraneously
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:14:55] <cheater-conrad>	genetic is fine under no load
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:15:04] <vipernicus>	you got mail
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:15:15] <vipernicus>	i'm going to recommend it only for File Server Tunable users
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:15:34] <vipernicus>	it pleases the ricers, and gets used where it needs to be used
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:15:44] <cheater-conrad>	blah, that's yucky
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:15:53] <cheater-conrad>	no way anyone has a use for genetics
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:12] <vipernicus>	imagine someone with a samba server, or even a SQL server
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:21] <cheater-conrad>	still useless ;)
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:22] <vipernicus>	someone that streams MP3s from his samba
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:30] <vipernicus>	genetics is useful there
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:42] <cheater-conrad>	no genetics is about as useful though
[Wed Aug 30 2006] [21:16:46] <vipernicus>	haha