( about the early bundle system )


[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:15:46 pm] <djustice>	i figured it was: app + deps installed to a dir with --prefix or similiar, then .pkg.tar.xz'd, then the bundle installer could do the magic of $PATH and LD_*
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:16:02 pm] <manu|phoix>	the bundles are NOT installed
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:16:22 pm] <manu|phoix>	we want to use the contents without installing nothing in the system
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:16:29 pm] <manu|phoix>	like MacOSX
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:12 pm] <manu|phoix>	the compression maybe lzma
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:17 pm] <manu|phoix>	dunno right now
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:19 pm] <djustice>	ah.. so.. um.. how? lol. that sounds like it disagrees with the freedesktop specs rly..
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:41 pm] <manu|phoix>	test Oinstall
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:45 pm] <manu|phoix>	it's in aur
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:56 pm] <djustice>	ah. will do. 
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:17:58 pm] <manu|phoix>	zeroinstall-inyector or so
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:18:50 pm] <manu|phoix>	i used flawlessly gimp and inkscape
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:20:30 pm] <manu|phoix>	abveritas:  let me uploaded it and the we can do it step by step i guide you in priv
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:20:35 pm] <manu|phoix>	*upload
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:20:47 pm] Quit	drvoodoo has left this server (Remote host closed the connection).
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:20:56 pm] <abveritas>	I just rebuild them, bc of packager name
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:21:12 pm] <abveritas>	Put them on sf first?
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:22:58 pm] <venky80>	One of our fellows just blogged about funkyou http://blog.dunkelstern.de/
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:23:00 pm] <phrik>	Title: Dunkelsterns Blog (at blog.dunkelstern.de)
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:23:41 pm] <djustice>	manu|phoix: nice :)
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:23:54 pm] <djustice>	i like the idea.
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:24:09 pm] <manu|phoix>	yep it's nice
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:24:15 pm] <manu|phoix>	no more gtk sht in the system
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:25:37 pm] <djustice>	ya, im groking it now. 








  ( tribe is abandoned! )


[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:25:48 pm] <djustice>	also, i want to hack on tribe.. it needs love.. 
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:26:02 pm] <djustice>	e*, f*, g*, x64 pkgz done.. 
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:28:11 pm] <manu|phoix>	djustice: it needs love and love
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:28:17 pm] <manu|phoix>	cpp?
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:29:43 pm] <djustice>	manu|phoix: yep
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:30:29 pm] <djustice>	i have a clone, and ill read into it some tonight. 
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:30:31 pm] <manu|phoix>	nice
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:30:43 pm] <manu|phoix>	we need an nice package selection page
[Monday, May 31, 2010] [03:31:04 pm] <manu|phoix>	and fix some parts of the partitioner







  ( about bundle design, lukas starts his akabei hacking )


[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:21:14 pm] <djustice>	yep. i say we use .pkg.tar.xz for bundles. instead of hosting their data ourselves. it would save the server. plus people could actually share linux programs.. 
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:21:39 pm] <manutortosa>	pkg.tar.xz don't fit at all
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:21:45 pm] <manutortosa>	it's too slow
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:21:50 pm] <djustice>	the way i have in mind: install app+deps to a fakeroot dir, xz the dir, then CInstall the .xz to $HOME somewhere.. 
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:21:57 pm] <manutortosa>	it must uncompress really quick the data
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:22:12 pm] <djustice>	xz isnt slow.. it works for the rest of our binaries.. (the same binaries actually)
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:22:20 pm] <manutortosa>	nah, the idea is not install nothing
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:22:23 pm] <djustice>	lzma could be used too.. 
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:22:48 pm] <djustice>	there is no way to do that. the bundle has to be downloaded anyway. so technically the downloading part would be the installing part.
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:22:54 pm] <boom1992>	djustice: uhm... the idea is to not install but to mount stuff...
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:23:01 pm] <manutortosa>	yep
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:23:15 pm] <manutortosa>	like a virtual device
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:23:26 pm] <djustice>	that works too. lzma then. -o loop -t squashfs. no problem.
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:24:02 pm] <manutortosa>	let's see how much time it takes to mount and so
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:24:41 pm] <boom1992>	manutortosa, djustice: yes... please talk to drf__ as well, he had some stuff in mind... + we could start doing some benchmarking soon what is fast/usable...
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:24:52 pm] 	 * boom1992 started to work on akabei today..
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:25:13 pm] <djustice>	k. so. install apps+deps to a dir (with a pkgbuild), lzma it, then have internal tools to mount/check/resolve/run the binary. 
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:25:15 pm] <manutortosa>	awesome!
[Tuesday, June 01, 2010] [01:26:29 pm] <boom1992>	plus we could have sth like the .PKGINFO file in there...









  ( phil's gitorious account )


[Saturday, June 05, 2010] [08:53:05 pm] <boom1992>	amnon: btw please register over at gitorious.org that Darion can add you to the team list :)
[Saturday, June 05, 2010] [08:53:24 pm] <amnon>	will do








  ( archlinux gdb was mislinked! :O )


[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:17 pm] <djustice>	you can leave off the '(hack pkgbuild)' part. it will link to python by itself on rebuild. :)
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:23 pm] <djustice>	nothing. ;)
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:28 pm] <djszapi|work>	and why the earth can it be ?
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:32 pm] <djustice>	hm?
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:34 pm] <djszapi|work>	why don't they link it against python ?
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:39 pm] <djszapi|work>	* what the earth
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:44 pm] <djustice>	they built python after gdb
[Tuesday, June 08, 2010] [12:39:50 pm] <djustice>	and didnt rebuild gdb afterward.









  ( phil's guide to women xD )


http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=18712#p18712









  ( a goal for the bundle system )


[Monday, June 21, 2010] [07:30:47 pm] <djustice>	venky80: bundles will be able to install repo pkgs one day on the fly. some bundles will have next-next-finish installers. most will just launch the app you downloaded from double-click. 
[Monday, June 21, 2010] [07:30:51 pm] <djustice>	but we arent there yet.
[Monday, June 21, 2010] [07:30:59 pm] <venky80>	well I understand they run out of they own directories,...
[Monday, June 21, 2010] [07:31:03 pm] <manutortosa>	something like this, like a cd in playstation






  ( an early bundle creation wizard fail - gimp is bundled )


[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [01:17:30 pm] <tetris4>	hey djustice, just some feedback, I tried the 29/06 cinstall here on i686, but although it does not crash now, I dont think the resulting bundles are ok..
[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [01:18:15 pm] <djustice>	tetris4: they were not. ;P use todays cinstall. 
[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [01:18:31 pm] <djustice>	i misplaced a process, and it ended up xz compressing instead of lz compressing.. 
[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [01:18:37 pm] <djustice>	fixd now tho.
[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [01:18:45 pm] <djustice>	also, i have a working gimp x64 bundle. :)









  ( manu wants a bundle buildsys )


[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [03:11:24 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	well i want to create a build environment for the bundles
[Wednesday, June 30, 2010] [03:11:28 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	another chroot




  ( bundle buildsys working, skype bundled )


[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:38:36 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	env== and so
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:38:57 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	and PKGZ will in some minutes automate the bundle creation
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:39:14 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	so it will need only one conf line for each bundle
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:39:44 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	the icon and desktop files must be in the main app folder
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:40:53 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	all works, i just must port the changes to the rest of the scripts
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:41:28 pm] 	 * manu|phoix_x64 goes to eat somethng now
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:41:30 pm] <venky80>	so skype bundle is ready or djustice will use your script to build it?
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:41:47 pm] <manu|phoix_x64>	venky80: he is fixing a final bug in the env== paramenter
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:42:05 pm] <djustice>	manu|phoix_x64: got stuck on that one.. seems it needs more than just that one arg..
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:42:24 pm] <djustice>	handles glib2 fine.. but not glibc... 
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:42:58 pm] <djustice>	o ok. i think i get it now. there is /opt/lib32{,/lib,/usr/lib}
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:43:47 pm] <venky80>	djustice: is that a breakthrough?
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:44:15 pm] <djustice>	venky80: ;D i suppose. if it works. 
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:44:50 pm] <venky80>	holding my breath
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:50:44 pm] <djustice>	venky80: i think i got it. the bundle was missing lib32-gcc-libs.. somehow..
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:51:18 pm] <venky80>	aha so can i rejoice?
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:51:41 pm] <djustice>	yea i guess. :) have fun. 
[Thursday, July 08, 2010] [07:52:09 pm] <venky80>	djustice: so where is it uploaded..:)