[20:29:51] hey ramirez? [20:36:13] hi [20:36:17] hey [20:36:26] have u been involved with the nms thing? [20:36:37] i read a bit about it, but not really [20:36:41] hmm ok [20:36:48] as i wanted to explain my side to an admin other than zero [20:36:55] go ahead [20:37:03] as me and him don't really see eye to eye anymore as he abuses a lot of my clan and i dont like it [20:37:03] ok [20:37:04] i know enough to understand the circumstances [20:37:07] ok [20:37:17] well im going to start from the start [20:37:32] i'm at work though so don't wonder if i don't respond instantly [20:37:40] but you can just tell your story here and i'll reply as soon as i have time [20:38:00] got up at 6am to try get some sctfls in, only 2 of us showed. So for 3 hours did nothing, then i started noticing that Hiho were climbing the ranks and it was closing to a good finale. [20:38:26] I joined hiho.soldat and they were super amped up, so i started trying to help them find sctfls so they could make playoffs [20:38:53] After an hour of chattingand all of them hyped up to shit, they told me they were in 2 games, one vs LoD and 1 vs NMS [20:39:02] i specced the LoD ones (they played x2) [20:39:25] after they lost we wre all pretty deflated and went back to hiho channel. I then remember they played NMS, and so i asked if they beat NMS [20:39:46] dez said NMS won [20:39:56] So i then went on to tell hiho if they cant beat nms they dont deserve playoffs [20:40:15] I then noticed NMS didn't post the war for like 35 mins or so, so i presumed they didn't have screens, so i said REPLAY THE WAR GOGOGOOG [20:40:22] (it was in the last 45 mins of freeplay) [20:40:30] then dez said he had screens and they were posting now [20:40:33] and that was that [20:40:40] then the report came up [20:40:42] and it was a tie [20:40:49] so instantly i got onto des, REPLAY REPLAY RPELAY [20:41:27] i thought they classed the tie as a win, as they had stopped hiho making playoffs.. euro's struggle with english so i didn't even care to think they had rigged the fucking report (which has pretty much stuffed me in turn) [20:41:40] i then pestered NMS for 20 minutes to replay [20:41:42] and in the end they did [20:41:54] mid-way through roptten erza had to go (parents yelling at him) [20:42:07] NMS pretty much threw rotten though , made no effort at all to win. [20:42:41] i edited the report as the time was nearly over and erza (the guy who had to go) was the one who posted it, so i being a helper, edited the report correctly and the replayed rotten was added [20:42:54] after that hiho got real sad because they thought it was bullshit and unfair [20:43:10] at the time i thought they were being retarded. sure NMS threw the match, but hiho can't be blamed for that. [20:43:42] [12:05:11] alright [20:43:42] [12:05:12] gn [20:43:42] [12:05:17] this is fucking ridiculous [20:43:42] [12:05:37] <+Cult`> lol bible_basher is such a drama queen holy shit [20:43:54] i called him a drama queen [20:44:03] as i had no idea why hiho were making such a huge cry [20:44:13] later i find out that they had played rotten again in the first war [20:44:15] and NMS won [20:44:26] hence Hiho suddenly feeling remorse [20:44:44] at this stage shit has hit the fan and zero asks me about it, at the time im oblivious to the fact rotten was replayed [20:45:00] and then the logs are given to me of me asking dez who won, and dez saying NMS did [20:45:23] but not once, was it mentioned that rotten had been replayed and i was under the impression the war was tied [20:45:48] i mean cheeseman AND dicko are in hiho and both online, one of them should of told us guys trying to get the replay that the war was lost, NOT tie [20:46:17] I was deceived just as much as the admins and SCTFL, yet now i find myself facing a ban and almost definatly losing my helper status [20:46:24] how would you be under the impression it was tied when he explicitly told you they won, and you even asked him to post the report [20:46:41] i was never once told [20:46:45] their was a replay of rotten [20:46:50] i checked the report when he posted it [20:46:57] and was wtf'ing to myself as the war was a tie [20:47:01] after dez said they won [20:47:20] but i didn't care to think why he told me they won so i just tried to get a replay [20:47:37] as the report was a draw [20:47:42] and the screens matched everything [20:47:56] staffers of SCTFL are supposed to be objective, the fact that you even tried to help them overtake another clan kind of goes against our policy [20:47:59] and when i was hassling for a replay, i was never ever told by either NMS or hiho that the report was fucked [20:48:20] It wasn't me trying to get them to overtake xreich, more helping them acheive their goal [20:48:48] They were all so amped and i've been in that position before and it was a pretty fun experience if it wasn't all lies and shit [20:49:37] if i had known the report was doctored i would of been totally different that i can promise [20:49:48] why would i risk my own head for 2 clans that mean nothing to me [20:49:50] well, helping them achieve their goal is really not any different from helping to drop out xreich.. [20:50:30] yeah i guess, but my intentions weren't knocking out xreich [20:50:41] like i didn't go their with 'i want xreich out of top 20' in mind [20:50:43] i had good intentions [20:51:25] and i would of thought the admins would of given me the benefit of the doubt when i said i was deceived, as being a helper i am meant to be entrusted to en-force the rules of the league, not break them. [20:51:34] if i had known what was going on i would of stopped it all [20:52:36] im just annoyed nobody ever told me there was a replay of rotten [20:55:09] ok well, thanks for sharing your side of the story [20:55:14] i'll let other admins know [20:55:36] and we'll make a decision about what to do when the rest are available [20:56:15] thanks, i'm not trying to shfit the blame but cheese and dicko are both helpers aswell and not once did either of them tell me the war was mis-reported, and that they had replayed rotten