--------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: -22140932 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Kames Jerk Session started: 2011.06.01 06:42:13 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2011.06.01 06:42:16 ] Chocolate Roll > yo [ 2011.06.01 06:54:32 ] Kames Jerk > oh sorry I didn't see that this channelwent through [ 2011.06.01 06:54:35 ] Kames Jerk > sorry to add a second [ 2011.06.01 06:54:41 ] Kames Jerk > we don't talk when neuts/reds are in system [ 2011.06.01 06:54:45 ] Chocolate Roll > ok [ 2011.06.01 06:54:48 ] Kames Jerk > warp to the NERN POS [ 2011.06.01 06:54:53 ] Kames Jerk > or join fleet real fast and warp to me [ 2011.06.01 06:55:03 ] Kames Jerk > but in any case, warp to a planet at 70, then another planet [ 2011.06.01 06:55:07 ] Kames Jerk > until your fleet session timer is up [ 2011.06.01 06:57:04 ] Kames Jerk > warp to me [ 2011.06.01 06:57:27 ] Kames Jerk > bookmark this tower if you haven't already [ 2011.06.01 06:57:36 ] Chocolate Roll > got it [ 2011.06.01 06:58:37 ] Chocolate Roll > what now/next? [ 2011.06.01 06:59:24 ] Kames Jerk > I got into my pvp ship and I'm moving out towards the gate [ 2011.06.01 06:59:30 ] Kames Jerk > if they come back in again, we'll try to catch 'em [ 2011.06.01 06:59:41 ] Chocolate Roll > alrighty [ 2011.06.01 07:00:05 ] Chocolate Roll > which gate, ill stay aligned to it [ 2011.06.01 07:00:28 ] Kames Jerk > there's only 1 gate in this system =) [ 2011.06.01 07:00:39 ] Chocolate Roll > duh, ofc [ 2011.06.01 07:03:08 ] Chocolate Roll > raven or rokh for bs? one better than the other? [ 2011.06.01 07:03:19 ] Kames Jerk > hmm, neither I'd say [ 2011.06.01 07:03:25 ] Chocolate Roll > oh :( [ 2011.06.01 07:03:27 ] Chocolate Roll > haha [ 2011.06.01 07:03:30 ] Kames Jerk > battlecruisers are the coin of the 0.0 realm =) [ 2011.06.01 07:03:31 ] Chocolate Roll > which? [ 2011.06.01 07:03:39 ] Kames Jerk > buy another drake, fit it for PvP [ 2011.06.01 07:03:42 ] Chocolate Roll > oh, so stick with my drake? [ 2011.06.01 07:03:44 ] Chocolate Roll > ok [ 2011.06.01 07:03:51 ] Kames Jerk > nah, you want to keep your ratting ship out of combat [ 2011.06.01 07:04:06 ] Kames Jerk > ideally you have your main ratting ship, a backup ratting ship, and 2+ PvP ships out here [ 2011.06.01 07:04:14 ] Kames Jerk > keep the backup ratter in a station somewhere [ 2011.06.01 07:04:23 ] Chocolate Roll > i have nowhere to store all these ships, close by [ 2011.06.01 07:04:28 ] Kames Jerk > so if the shit hits the fan you have something to fall back on [ 2011.06.01 07:04:38 ] Kames Jerk > well, since you're new I think you have to live out of a station for 30 days anyway [ 2011.06.01 07:05:08 ] Chocolate Roll > thought about training an alt to fly a cloaked orca [ 2011.06.01 07:05:54 ] Kames Jerk > closest stations to us are GRHS, DG-8VJ, O-W778, and M-MBRT [ 2011.06.01 07:06:10 ] Chocolate Roll > yeah, currently living out of GRHS [ 2011.06.01 07:06:21 ] Kames Jerk > good place to start [ 2011.06.01 07:06:37 ] Kames Jerk > once you get your footing out here you can move into a POS [ 2011.06.01 07:06:46 ] Kames Jerk > since you're Novaku, I don't know what their policies are on ship storage [ 2011.06.01 07:07:01 ] Kames Jerk > in NERN (my corp) they make you wait 30 days before you can use the ship maintenance arrays to store your stuff [ 2011.06.01 07:07:12 ] Chocolate Roll > darth said i was welcome to use the pos, but not to expect my ship to stay there 100% [ 2011.06.01 07:07:16 ] Chocolate Roll > so i dont like that idea [ 2011.06.01 07:07:30 ] Kames Jerk > honestly I'd stay in GRHS for two weeks until you learn your way around [ 2011.06.01 07:07:36 ] Kames Jerk > Wicked Creek is big =) [ 2011.06.01 07:07:37 ] Chocolate Roll > yup [ 2011.06.01 07:08:32 ] Chocolate Roll > tell me about it ^_^ [ 2011.06.01 07:08:36 ] Chocolate Roll > enjoying myself thusfar [ 2011.06.01 07:10:10 ] Kames Jerk > so neuts are gone, looks like for a while [ 2011.06.01 07:10:14 ] Kames Jerk > I'm hoppin back into the Ish [ 2011.06.01 07:10:20 ] Chocolate Roll > ok [ 2011.06.01 07:10:32 ] Kames Jerk > if you want to receive leadership bonuses from me, move up into wing 1 squad 1 [ 2011.06.01 07:10:59 ] Chocolate Roll > how do i do that? [ 2011.06.01 07:12:00 ] Kames Jerk > open fleet window [ 2011.06.01 07:12:06 ] Chocolate Roll > yup [ 2011.06.01 07:12:14 ] Kames Jerk > do you have it set to hierarchy mode? [ 2011.06.01 07:12:21 ] Chocolate Roll > no idea [ 2011.06.01 07:13:11 ] Kames Jerk > in the very top left corner, right click on the horizontal lines, then look for "view as hierarchy" [ 2011.06.01 07:13:15 ] Kames Jerk > there you go, smart man [ 2011.06.01 07:13:33 ] Chocolate Roll > figured it out in the end [ 2011.06.01 07:13:48 ] Chocolate Roll > so what bonus am i now getting? [ 2011.06.01 07:14:21 ] Kames Jerk > 8% to shield, armor, targetting range, and scan resolution [ 2011.06.01 07:14:41 ] Chocolate Roll > heh, nice [ 2011.06.01 07:14:53 ] Kames Jerk > wait, armor, shield, targetting range, and velocity [ 2011.06.01 07:15:03 ] Kames Jerk > or agility or something [ 2011.06.01 07:15:14 ] Kames Jerk > whatever bonus the skirmish warfare skill gives [ 2011.06.01 07:15:26 ] Chocolate Roll > would you mind doing me a favour? [ 2011.06.01 07:15:35 ] Kames Jerk > what's that [ 2011.06.01 07:15:54 ] Chocolate Roll > im in a belt and the bs are spawning faster than i can kill them off. been from 5 to 1 to 4 to 1 to 5 ships >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:16:20 ] Chocolate Roll > could you help me bash em all so i can salvage and go buy more ammo? purrdy please [ 2011.06.01 07:16:36 ] Chocolate Roll > need to get some more BCUs [ 2011.06.01 07:17:21 ] Kames Jerk > onesec [ 2011.06.01 07:17:34 ] Kames Jerk > dam rat has me scrammed [ 2011.06.01 07:19:06 ] Chocolate Roll > motherfucker is repairing >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:19:19 ] Chocolate Roll > i killed the last 10, why cant i kill this one >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:19:31 ] Kames Jerk > problem with drake is lack of DPS [ 2011.06.01 07:19:37 ] Chocolate Roll > mhmm [ 2011.06.01 07:20:18 ] Chocolate Roll > im out of ammo now too [ 2011.06.01 07:20:24 ] Kames Jerk > kill the battleships, leave the cruisers [ 2011.06.01 07:20:28 ] Chocolate Roll > feck it, ill loot n call it a day [ 2011.06.01 07:20:42 ] Kames Jerk > you can take these two wrecks also, onesec [ 2011.06.01 07:21:06 ] Chocolate Roll > oh, u arrived.. sorry >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:21:15 ] Kames Jerk > hehe, hence why the battleship died [ 2011.06.01 07:22:21 ] Kames Jerk > ok they're dead, come on back [ 2011.06.01 07:22:47 ] Chocolate Roll > any tips for improving my drake? other than, ofc, moving to t2 stuff? [ 2011.06.01 07:22:56 ] Kames Jerk > post your fit for me [ 2011.06.01 07:23:11 ] Chocolate Roll > Drake Eu Du Chocolat [ 2011.06.01 07:23:47 ] Kames Jerk > hmm, lemme pull out my drake fit [ 2011.06.01 07:26:24 ] Kames Jerk > http://pastebin.ca/2073123 [ 2011.06.01 07:26:56 ] Kames Jerk > that's a monster tank, plus 329 dps from missiles alone [ 2011.06.01 07:27:00 ] Chocolate Roll > yea, so basically all i can do is t2 it [ 2011.06.01 07:27:11 ] Kames Jerk > add another 99 dmg from t2 hobos [ 2011.06.01 07:27:34 ] Chocolate Roll > long time for t2 everything [ 2011.06.01 07:27:43 ] Chocolate Roll > maybe id be better off going back to hi-sec [ 2011.06.01 07:27:48 ] Kames Jerk > nah, keep your missile launchers as they are [ 2011.06.01 07:27:51 ] Kames Jerk > train for the mids and lows T2 [ 2011.06.01 07:28:03 ] Kames Jerk > then train up missile support skills, then for t2 heavy launchers [ 2011.06.01 07:28:09 ] Kames Jerk > then finally drones if you want to go that route [ 2011.06.01 07:28:29 ] Kames Jerk > those meta3 launchers ain't cheap [ 2011.06.01 07:29:04 ] Kames Jerk > do you have drones V? [ 2011.06.01 07:29:09 ] Chocolate Roll > not yet [ 2011.06.01 07:29:22 ] Kames Jerk > will help a bunch on the frigs [ 2011.06.01 07:29:28 ] Kames Jerk > but if you're just belt ratting, you don't kill many frigs [ 2011.06.01 07:31:24 ] Chocolate Roll > im about 10 hours from t2 BCUs [ 2011.06.01 07:31:39 ] Kames Jerk > that'll help a bit [ 2011.06.01 07:31:39 ] Chocolate Roll > and 1 1/2 day from t2 invuln fields [ 2011.06.01 07:31:48 ] Kames Jerk > engineering/electronics to IV correct? [ 2011.06.01 07:32:14 ] Chocolate Roll > yep [ 2011.06.01 07:33:02 ] Kames Jerk > ok, energy grid upgrades to IV soonish [ 2011.06.01 07:33:16 ] Chocolate Roll > yeah thats on the list [ 2011.06.01 07:33:28 ] Kames Jerk > to get shield power relay IIs [ 2011.06.01 07:34:35 ] Kames Jerk > and you'll want tactical shield manipulation IV for shield hardeners [ 2011.06.01 07:35:20 ] Chocolate Roll > yup, thats the invuld skill. day and a half to go for that [ 2011.06.01 07:35:33 ] Kames Jerk > nice thing (and also somewhat infuriating) about the drake is you can fly it decently well with a minimum of skillpoints [ 2011.06.01 07:35:54 ] Kames Jerk > and it dovetails nicely into a tengu [ 2011.06.01 07:36:21 ] Chocolate Roll > yes. i was excited to get the drake, now its a bit of a drag [ 2011.06.01 07:36:28 ] Chocolate Roll > it can tank anything.. just cant kill it >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:36:39 ] Kames Jerk > well, that's the price =) [ 2011.06.01 07:36:42 ] Kames Jerk > it oculd be a lot worse [ 2011.06.01 07:36:49 ] Kames Jerk > you could not be able to tank anything [ 2011.06.01 07:36:56 ] Chocolate Roll > true [ 2011.06.01 07:37:06 ] Kames Jerk > I had to skill up to gallente battleship in order to be effective in high damage situations [ 2011.06.01 07:37:17 ] Kames Jerk > and dual train for gunnery and drones [ 2011.06.01 07:37:23 ] Chocolate Roll > thats why i was asking about BS [ 2011.06.01 07:37:28 ] Chocolate Roll > seems the only option [ 2011.06.01 07:37:33 ] Kames Jerk > I've never flown a raven honestly [ 2011.06.01 07:37:35 ] Chocolate Roll > not much u can do to gank up a drake [ 2011.06.01 07:38:09 ] Kames Jerk > if you use the right missiles (you _are_ using explosive yes?) and the right drones you can do some pretty mondo damage in a drake [ 2011.06.01 07:38:19 ] Kames Jerk > my ishtar pulls around 430 dps and it clears sites like a madman [ 2011.06.01 07:38:25 ] Chocolate Roll > darth told me to use kinetic [ 2011.06.01 07:38:57 ] Kames Jerk > out here? [ 2011.06.01 07:39:00 ] Kames Jerk > we're in angel space [ 2011.06.01 07:39:02 ] Chocolate Roll > yeah [ 2011.06.01 07:39:10 ] Chocolate Roll > angel is kin/exp [ 2011.06.01 07:39:13 ] Kames Jerk > exp/kin [ 2011.06.01 07:39:16 ] Chocolate Roll > i get kin bonus to my ship [ 2011.06.01 07:39:17 ] Kames Jerk > exp way more than kin [ 2011.06.01 07:39:28 ] Kames Jerk > do you have battlecruisers IV? [ 2011.06.01 07:39:29 ] Chocolate Roll > right ok, ill try the diff ammo then [ 2011.06.01 07:39:34 ] Chocolate Roll > haha [ 2011.06.01 07:39:36 ] Chocolate Roll > 2 [ 2011.06.01 07:39:38 ] Chocolate Roll > :( [ 2011.06.01 07:39:45 ] Kames Jerk > yeah, pump that soon also [ 2011.06.01 07:39:48 ] Kames Jerk > so by the weekend [ 2011.06.01 07:40:05 ] Kames Jerk > you'll be flying it much better [ 2011.06.01 07:40:12 ] Chocolate Roll > yup [ 2011.06.01 07:40:19 ] Kames Jerk > then two weeks after that you can be using t2 missiles [ 2011.06.01 07:40:58 ] Chocolate Roll > yup [ 2011.06.01 07:41:19 ] Chocolate Roll > should i finish tactical shield first, or do the 17 hours for bcu t2? [ 2011.06.01 07:41:32 ] Chocolate Roll > that'll help me more out here, right? i got plenty of tank already [ 2011.06.01 07:41:35 ] Kames Jerk > how far to finish tactical shield? [ 2011.06.01 07:41:52 ] Chocolate Roll > 2d 10h [ 2011.06.01 07:42:04 ] Chocolate Roll > thouht it was less >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:42:05 ] Kames Jerk > finish the BCU first [ 2011.06.01 07:42:11 ] Chocolate Roll > ok [ 2011.06.01 07:42:53 ] Chocolate Roll > and use exp ammo? [ 2011.06.01 07:42:57 ] Kames Jerk > most definitely [ 2011.06.01 07:43:04 ] Kames Jerk > especially since your battlecruisers skill isn't trained up [ 2011.06.01 07:43:11 ] Kames Jerk > you only get that kinetic bonus if you train the bc skill [ 2011.06.01 07:43:25 ] Chocolate Roll > yeah i know [ 2011.06.01 07:43:36 ] Chocolate Roll > the 10% from lvl 2 BC not enough difference? [ 2011.06.01 07:44:53 ] Kames Jerk > not when explosive does so much more [ 2011.06.01 07:45:07 ] Kames Jerk > if you have bc 5, with 25% kinetic improvement, then it might be on par, or slightly better [ 2011.06.01 07:45:42 ] Chocolate Roll > really, its that big a difference? [ 2011.06.01 07:45:52 ] Kames Jerk > I don't have hard numbers [ 2011.06.01 07:46:00 ] Kames Jerk > I just use minmatar drones, which are explosive [ 2011.06.01 07:46:17 ] Kames Jerk > and I kill things fast [ 2011.06.01 07:46:42 ] Chocolate Roll > ok [ 2011.06.01 07:49:27 ] Chocolate Roll > give it another bash and then i really must go and get some sleep as its now.... [ 2011.06.01 07:49:32 ] Chocolate Roll > 8.49 am >.< [ 2011.06.01 07:49:34 ] Chocolate Roll > feck [ 2011.06.01 07:49:36 ] Kames Jerk > ouch [ 2011.06.01 07:51:58 ] Chocolate Roll > is it just me or have all the bubbles gone? [ 2011.06.01 07:55:16 ] Chocolate Roll > hah [ 2011.06.01 07:55:22 ] Kames Jerk > I dunno, I don't pay much attention to them [ 2011.06.01 07:55:26 ] Chocolate Roll > im doing way less damage with explosive ammo :/