*** You sign into welcome. 
0:2:10 <feep> ? 
0:2:10 <coyo growls> then typed "_message hello world!" 
0:2:10 <coyo growls> it closed the link 
0:2:10 <feep> any error? 
0:2:10 <fccbot> Hello World! 
15:52:30 <feep> okay, I can't send messages either. 
15:55:26 <feep> the whole spec is horrifying, imo. 
15:55:27 <maylay> some one just sent me something :-P 
15:55:32 <knotty> i'm not here to provide a debug target 
15:55:49 <maylay> hehe, uh-oh 
15:55:54 <Clunk> maylay: psyc://demented.no-ip.org/~fccbot ??? 
15:56:3 <maylay> Clunk, yup 
15:56:13 <Clunk> maylay: Me 2 
*** Lost route to «psyc://demented.no-ip.org/~fccbot» fccbot. 
15:56:36 <feep> I'm sure I actually had "sending messages to channels" already 
welcome inspected on http://www.psyced.org/ coming from http://symlynx.com/opensource.en.html. 
15:57:23 <tama> sheesh. the only thing giving psyconaut value seems to be gone. i cant see psyc traffic anymore. 
15:57:50 <feep> bool areWeHavingFunYet() return false; 
15:58:37 <tama> heh 
15:58:59 <feep> it wouldn't be so bad if half the docs didn't describe a protocol that almost nobody uses 
15:59:15 <tama> >> :_context psyc://psyced.org/@welcome 
15:59:20 <tama> fff 
15:59:53 <coyo growls> http://pastebin.ca/2074729 
16:0:26 <feep> coyo: that's an echo 
16:0:32 <feep> it's what the server sends out, not what you send in 
*** knotty leaves welcome. 
16:1:34 <coyo growls> http://pastebin.ca/2074730 
16:1:53 <coyo growls> it's using commands i've never seen in doc 
16:2:9 <feep> me neither 
16:2:18 <tama> hmmm.. 
16:2:32 <feep> 'About 16 results (0.11 seconds) while searching for "_request_input"' 
16:2:34 <feep> fuun 
16:2:49 <feep> (on psyc.eu) 
16:3:13 <coyo growls> http://pastebin.ca/2074732 
16:3:40 <feep> coyo: http://about.psyc.eu/Command 
16:3:47 <feep> search for "issue a command using _request_input" 
16:4:17 <feep> you know 
16:4:20 <feep> the question occurs to me 
16:4:27 <feep> if you're making a protocol based on exchanging packets 
16:4:29 <coyo> hmm? 
16:4:30 <feep> that have a header 
16:4:32 <feep> a command 
16:4:33 <feep> and data 
16:4:39 <feep> then WHY NOT JUST USE BLOODY HTTP ;___; 
16:4:44 <coyo pets> 
16:4:52 <feep mrrs depressedly> 
16:4:52 <coyo> http can die? 
16:4:59 <coyo petpetpets> 
16:5:0 <feep> http is well-tested and established 
16:5:10 <feep> and, more importantly, already specced out. 
16:5:21 <feep> almost as importantly* 
16:5:26 <coyo growls> i just want this client to work 
16:5:35 <coyo growls> the closest thing to a client is this 
16:6:15 <feep> but yeah, you want _request_input apparently 
16:6:25 <feep> it's technically in the docs, it's just not referenced by anything 
16:6:25 <coyo sighs> 
16:7:7 <coyo nibbles on feep> 
16:7:19 <feep smiles, huggles against> 
16:10:4 <coyo really hates the web.> 
16:10:10 <coyo thinks the web is eating the internet> 
16:10:13 <feep> coyo: to be fair 
16:10:19 <feep> this is just psyc being misspecced. 
16:10:27 <feep> it's not representative of the state of the web at large. 
16:10:33 <coyo growls> i know that. 
16:10:37 <feep> kay. 
16:10:40 <coyo noms feep> 
16:10:54 <feep squirms, miews> 
16:11:27 <tama also noms feep> 
16:12:17 <coyo growls> http://pastebin.ca/2074736 
16:12:45 <feep> aa, double noms 
16:13:0 <coyo growls> look at psyconaut output 
16:13:4 <feep> that's a bug 
16:13:5 <coyo growls> this is a beta client 
16:13:19 <feep> actions should not be signalled via _request_input 
16:13:30 <feep> which tells you all you need to know about spec-first-implement-later 
16:13:42 <coyo growls> mmhmm 
16:13:48 <feep> makes it easier on you though 
16:13:52 <feep> just forget the spec and copy that :P 
16:13:59 <coyo growls> okay :3 
16:14:2 <coyo growls> i can fix it later