04:05
(4:08:26 AM) cjhx9: gu deg
(4:08:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: hi
(4:08:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: didn't sleepig well?
(4:09:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:09:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gudeg
04:10
(4:10:33 AM) cjhx9: nope
(4:10:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:10:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:11:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i won't be able to sleep for a long time
(4:11:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because i have to be awake...
(4:11:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:12:12 AM) cjhx9: have to be awake?
(4:12:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:12:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: mondays
(4:12:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: have to go
(4:12:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to places
(4:13:24 AM) cjhx9: so why cant you sleepig?
(4:13:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: have to go places
(4:13:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if i sleep i won't be awake to go
(4:13:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
04:15
(4:16:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: It's storming so I might lose my connection.
(4:16:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:18:43 AM) cjhx9: gug
(4:18:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ugu
(4:18:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish i had magic
(4:19:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: also the ability to rewrite my personality
(4:19:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:19:49 AM) cjhx9: guuuuuu
(4:19:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
04:20
(4:20:03 AM) cjhx9: you can work on your personality
(4:20:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that ability would be guud
(4:20:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: work on it ;p
(4:20:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i just want to rewrite it
(4:20:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's bad
(4:20:17 AM) cjhx9: dont need magic
(4:20:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:20:24 AM) ***Daisuki Daikisu needs
04:30
(4:33:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:33:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: power went out
(4:33:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's raining harder now
04:35
(4:35:24 AM) cjhx9: guuu
(4:35:43 AM) cjhx9: stupid area of the world
(4:36:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:36:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: bad
(4:36:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: everywhere that doesn't cause permanent euphoria is horrible
05:50
(5:53:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
05:55
(5:55:14 AM) cjhx9: gu
(5:55:20 AM) cjhx9: why is everyone up here gug
(5:55:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu
(5:55:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(5:55:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: http://www.shamefulotakusecret.com/2009/06/18/welcome-back-or-what-color-are-your-glasses-now/
(5:55:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:55:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: eureka
(5:56:16 AM) cjhx9: gu 
(5:56:28 AM) cjhx9: looks like alucards mouth and glasses
(5:56:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ;p
(5:56:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i like it though
06:10
(6:12:05 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:12:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:12:15 AM) cjhx9: you should rewatch 5cm per second
(6:12:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why
(6:12:24 AM) cjhx9: when you get out of that house and are happier
(6:12:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:12:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i rewatch anime in time
(6:12:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm sure i would eventually rewatch it
(6:12:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: since it's not meaningless to the world of anime
(6:12:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well
(6:12:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(6:13:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: would take a long time at least
(6:13:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
06:15
(6:15:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:15:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe in five years you could rewatch code geass
(6:15:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's fair enough
(6:15:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we feel about the same
(6:15:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: about each other's choices
(6:15:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and code geass is longer but more important
(6:15:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:15:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to the world of anime
(6:16:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:16:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i guess if a club ranked anime
(6:16:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in the way i do
(6:16:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not me but statistically
(6:16:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then i guess in that club
(6:16:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: they'd rewatch tsiuokuhen every year
(6:16:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu?
(6:17:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:17:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: about those glasses on eureka
(6:17:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe their vash's
(6:17:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: *they're
(6:17:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu
(6:17:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe not though
(6:17:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm checking
(6:17:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i just thought of that at random
(6:18:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'll check alucard too
(6:18:24 AM) cjhx9: hu
(6:18:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:18:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: hu
(6:18:28 AM) cjhx9: or ban's
(6:18:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm a bad degu
06:20
(6:20:03 AM) cjhx9: yes
(6:20:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(6:20:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: midou ban
(6:20:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:20:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:20:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: could be anyone's
(6:20:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the color never matches
(6:21:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it resembles various
(6:21:01 AM) cjhx9: fuguuuuu
(6:21:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i like the color with eureka though
(6:21:10 AM) cjhx9: im rank 111
(6:21:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and her expression
(6:21:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well!
(6:21:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:21:23 AM) cjhx9: i need just 11 more ranks to get on the leaderboard
(6:21:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: would you ever rewatch code geass? ;p
(6:21:35 AM) cjhx9: yeah
(6:21:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: like in ten years?
(6:21:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i really think that unless you started to dislike anime in general
(6:21:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you might like it more then
(6:22:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: there's a reason that along with onizuka lelouch is one of the very most highly rated popular characters
(6:22:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:22:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he's a very strong person (inside)
(6:22:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sure, he doesn't fight himself but guuu
(6:22:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he takes so much
(6:23:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and degs well
(6:23:17 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:23:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: plus he's just fun to watch at times
(6:23:26 AM) cjhx9: but his hax
(6:23:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(6:23:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: hax but
(6:23:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: his enemies are so strong
(6:23:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that he takes a lot of damage
(6:23:50 AM) cjhx9: they are mere humans
(6:23:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and hax isn't his fault
(6:23:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: mere...
(6:23:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:24:01 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:24:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he fights an empire
(6:24:02 AM) cjhx9: anyways
(6:24:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: an empire is not just some weak human
(6:24:23 AM) cjhx9: suzaku got really far and didnt have hax
(6:24:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: got where?
(6:24:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lelouch did so much more than suzaku anyway
(6:24:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lelouch changed the world
06:25
(6:25:03 AM) cjhx9: got into the knights untill letard fucked it up
(6:25:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: without not having to try or not having to sacrifice
(6:25:19 AM) cjhx9: worked hard to get there despite his birth
(6:25:22 AM) cjhx9: and his father
(6:25:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: despite killing his father?
(6:25:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway
(6:25:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: none of that amounts to much
(6:25:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he got in but what
(6:25:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what did he actually change in the world
(6:25:55 AM) cjhx9: well lelouch killed his father
(6:25:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: himself
(6:26:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no...
(6:26:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: suzaku killed his father
(6:26:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lelouch killed his father later i guess
(6:26:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in that weird place
(6:26:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway
(6:26:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lelouch's father was worse than suzaku's
(6:26:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: also suzaku was young when he killed...
(6:26:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: was only like eight or something
(6:27:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and murdered his father
(6:27:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: who was opposing brittania
(6:27:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: really that part is dumb ;p
(6:27:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because no young child would have thought about philosophy so much and reached such a strong conclusion
(6:27:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to murder his own father
(6:28:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wonder if you would dislike akagi from akagi
(6:28:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he's not lelouch
(6:28:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but he's a dark character in ways
(6:28:51 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:29:01 AM) cjhx9: does he kill needlessly?
(6:29:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he doesn't kill that i remember
(6:29:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he did let a blind man fire a gun at him though
(6:29:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: right to his head
(6:29:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because he trusted the blind man
(6:29:57 AM) cjhx9: gu sounds like a great guy
06:30
(6:30:01 AM) cjhx9: picking on the hanicapped
(6:30:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he just gambled his life on it
(6:30:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what
(6:30:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lol
(6:30:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: picking on?
(6:30:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that guy was picked to face him
(6:30:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he wasn't some weak shut-in
(6:31:04 AM) cjhx9: okgu
(6:31:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:31:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you always make anything out to be bad
(6:31:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(6:31:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi is hardcore
(6:32:09 AM) cjhx9: you love him
(6:32:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(6:32:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:32:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i identify with him
(6:32:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and lelouch
(6:32:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in ways
(6:32:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and killua
(6:32:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:32:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you hate all three
(6:32:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh well
(6:32:43 AM) cjhx9: guuu
(6:32:47 AM) cjhx9: i dont hate akagi
(6:33:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you might though
(6:33:12 AM) cjhx9: have you read the manga?
(6:33:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you tried to hate him already
(6:33:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no, i haven't...
(6:33:19 AM) cjhx9: ok
(6:33:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:33:23 AM) cjhx9: well ill read the manga today
(6:33:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you hate killua and lelouch though
(6:33:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why read?
(6:33:33 AM) cjhx9: i really have nothing to do in class
(6:33:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the anime is better guuu
(6:33:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(6:33:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the manga
(6:33:42 AM) cjhx9: infact i could not go and still make a D
(6:33:49 AM) cjhx9: and i still have 4 weeks left
(6:34:00 AM) cjhx9: so im doing great 95ish average
(6:34:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:34:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you succeed a lot
(6:34:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to make up for that i fail a lot
(6:34:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(6:34:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: only 30 chapters scanlated
(6:34:45 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:34:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i think the anime covers about a third
06:35
(6:35:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and there are 22 volumes out so far
(6:35:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so about 7 volumes
(6:35:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so you can probably read about three...
(6:35:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so the anime goes beyond it
(6:35:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: washizu iwao is really twisted
(6:35:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: evil
(6:35:41 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:35:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi faces him
(6:35:50 AM) cjhx9: so kaiji and akagi have the same plot?
(6:35:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but i think the manga probably wouldn't have that part
(6:36:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not the same
(6:36:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: kaiji is better
(6:36:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and you'd probably like the character more
(6:36:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i liked the anime more anyway
(6:36:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: rated it 9.0
(6:36:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: kaiji anime
(6:36:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the gambles are better
(6:36:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: mahjong just isn't as good
(6:37:31 AM) cjhx9: okgu
(6:38:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:38:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: kaiji has 39 volumes out
(6:38:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's longgu
(6:38:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you can't really read that though
(6:38:28 AM) cjhx9: guuuuuuuuuuuuu
(6:38:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the anime covers 1-13
(6:38:32 AM) cjhx9: why
(6:38:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so you'd have to watch and then start reading
(6:38:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because
(6:38:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not scanlated
(6:38:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: also i am not sure when the akagi anime ends in manga
(6:38:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so gu
(6:39:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: probably past what's out though...
(6:39:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i really doubt it was that dense
(6:39:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the manga
06:40
(6:40:05 AM) cjhx9: ok
(6:40:09 AM) cjhx9: ill look into it 
(6:40:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:40:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i watched one outs
(6:40:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's like them in ways
(6:40:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: characters aren't as developed though
(6:40:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i rated it 7.5 like akagi
(6:40:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi had some flaws that one outs didn't and one outs lacked some things akagi had
(6:40:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so they're about even to me
(6:41:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the mangaka of one outs
(6:41:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: does liar game
(6:41:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: which is being scanlated
(6:41:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i haven't read it yet but
(6:41:40 AM) cjhx9: did you like higurashi?
(6:41:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: odds are probably 95% that i'll like it
(6:41:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yes, i rated both higus 7.5
(6:42:18 AM) cjhx9: you like guy who like punched through the car
(6:42:23 AM) cjhx9: forgot his name started with a
(6:42:25 AM) cjhx9: asukara
(6:42:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you should watch baccano! (! is part of it)
(6:42:27 AM) cjhx9: or something
(6:42:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akasaka
(6:42:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(6:42:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that was a great moment
(6:42:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he just stood up to those guys
(6:42:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and won
(6:42:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: awesomely
(6:42:52 AM) cjhx9: then got killed brutally off screen
(6:42:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:42:57 AM) cjhx9: then time reset 
(6:42:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't remember
(6:42:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:43:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no
(6:43:01 AM) cjhx9: and it was all for naught
(6:43:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that was in kai
(6:43:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so no
(6:43:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that had a happy ending
(6:43:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: instead of death
(6:43:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:43:32 AM) cjhx9: hmm
(6:43:36 AM) cjhx9: ok
(6:43:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you should watch baccano!
(6:43:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: baccano! is guud
(6:43:48 AM) cjhx9: i was really sad when they almost made it 
(6:43:53 AM) cjhx9: then they all got gunned down
(6:43:58 AM) cjhx9: then they were going to give up
(6:44:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm going to watch higu rei once it ends
(6:44:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: only under an episode a month
(6:44:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oav
(6:44:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:44:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: too slow
(6:44:25 AM) cjhx9: gu
(6:44:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you should finish kino though
(6:44:32 AM) cjhx9: i saw some baccano
(6:44:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the last episode is the best
(6:44:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:44:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you hated?
(6:44:39 AM) cjhx9: but the tards in anime club watched it 
(6:44:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: baccano! is good...
(6:44:41 AM) cjhx9: and spoiled some
(6:44:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg...
(6:44:47 AM) cjhx9: but i forgot alot of the spoilers
(6:44:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why do you go there
(6:44:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you hate their tastes
(6:44:54 AM) cjhx9: they spoiled soul eater for me 
(6:44:57 AM) cjhx9: tards
(6:44:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and get spoiled
(6:44:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
06:45
(6:45:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: spoiled how?
(6:45:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i saw soul eater
(6:45:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: after it ended
(6:45:20 AM) cjhx9: dunno
(6:45:22 AM) cjhx9: just fights
(6:45:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:45:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you should watch soul eater too i guess
(6:45:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i hate black star though
(6:45:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(6:46:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but gu
(6:46:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i rated it 5.5
(6:46:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you like shounen more than me
(6:46:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: probably would rate it higher
(6:46:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you didn't drop it
(6:46:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i mean
(6:46:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you finished
(6:46:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
06:50
(6:51:09 AM) cjhx9: guuuu
07:05
(7:08:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:08:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you should read the wheel of time
(7:08:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:08:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do all and yet none of what i say
(7:08:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:08:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: NOW
(7:08:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(7:08:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: degus.
(7:08:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
07:10
(7:11:14 AM) cjhx9: guuuu
(7:11:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu
(7:11:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish i could watch at 1000x the speed but enjoy it just as much
(7:11:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:12:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish i could run programs and connect to the internet from my brain
07:15
(7:15:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(7:15:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how many more levels
(7:16:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:16:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what is the game anyway
07:20
(7:24:20 AM) cjhx9: cross edge
(7:24:34 AM) cjhx9: my friend said the same thing to me a few years ago
(7:24:40 AM) cjhx9: about the internet from brain
(7:24:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:24:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's obvious
(7:24:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i want to run programs, too
07:25
(7:25:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well, i'd have to be able to to access the internet
(7:25:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in a meaningful way
(7:25:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway you can be ranked although you pirated the game? or did you not pirate it?
07:30
(7:30:16 AM) cjhx9: i didnt pirate
(7:30:21 AM) cjhx9: im rank 104 now
(7:30:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu!
(7:30:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why didn't you?
(7:30:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because no emu for ps3?
(7:30:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu?
(7:30:45 AM) cjhx9: cant pirate ps3 games, also i support the company
(7:30:49 AM) cjhx9: i buy all their gamesgu
(7:31:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: which company?
(7:31:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm sure you can eventually pirate ps3 games
(7:31:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just not soon
(7:31:39 AM) cjhx9: nippon ichi
(7:32:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(7:32:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what other games by them
(7:34:39 AM) cjhx9: disgaea
(7:34:43 AM) cjhx9: phantom brave 
(7:34:47 AM) cjhx9: makai kingdom
(7:34:50 AM) cjhx9: la pucelle tactics
(7:34:56 AM) cjhx9: gu deg gu
07:35
(7:35:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu
(7:35:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you know all games
(7:38:30 AM) cjhx9: you know all animes
(7:38:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:38:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm slow
(7:38:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:38:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
07:55
(7:58:51 AM) cjhx9: i cleaned my room and pig cage
(7:58:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(7:59:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: pig cage always gets dirty
08:00
(8:02:45 AM) cjhx9: sadly 
(8:02:50 AM) cjhx9: thats the cost of having pigis
(8:02:53 AM) cjhx9: pigs
(8:03:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: pigs should grow you pot
(8:03:38 AM) cjhx9: guuuuuu
(8:03:45 AM) cjhx9: guud idea
(8:04:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
08:05
(8:07:58 AM) cjhx9: gu
(8:08:01 AM) cjhx9: rank 93
(8:08:05 AM) cjhx9: im on the leaderboards
(8:08:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:08:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lead well
(8:08:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(8:08:16 AM) cjhx9: gu
(8:08:19 AM) cjhx9: i will try
(8:08:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:08:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how far are you from first
(8:08:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in stats or whatever
(8:08:48 AM) cjhx9: well people cheat
(8:08:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(8:08:57 AM) cjhx9: they just start up game put in points
(8:09:00 AM) cjhx9: reset
(8:09:10 AM) cjhx9: so there are like 30 people with 999 in everything
(8:09:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:09:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what are you at?
(8:09:25 AM) cjhx9: which shouldnt even be possible without like 10 playthroughs
(8:09:30 AM) cjhx9: i am at 213
(8:09:36 AM) cjhx9: but i am almost done with the game
(8:09:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:09:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the game didn't just come out i thought wikipedia said
(8:09:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: someone could play it ten times
(8:09:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no?
08:10
(8:10:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or are you saying that it only counts per time played?
(8:10:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:13:13 AM) cjhx9: gu
(8:13:24 AM) cjhx9: when you start a new game you get 100 pp
(8:13:30 AM) cjhx9: this lets you put points into your stats
(8:13:41 AM) cjhx9: so just start new game distribute, save
(8:13:46 AM) cjhx9: new game repeat
(8:13:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:14:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sounds like the company didn't care much then
(8:14:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you can roll points over endlessly like that
(8:14:32 AM) cjhx9: who knows 
(8:14:43 AM) cjhx9: i mean the people bought the game
(8:14:47 AM) cjhx9: so they can do what they want
08:15
(8:15:01 AM) cjhx9: but i cant imagine reseting so many times is fun
(8:15:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: degus bit them
(8:15:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and degus bit us all.
(8:15:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
08:35
(8:36:53 AM) cjhx9: gu
(8:36:58 AM) cjhx9: i got to go to class nowgu
(8:37:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: okay
(8:37:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg very well.
(8:37:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(8:37:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \^~^/
(8:37:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(8:37:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*^*/
(8:37:13 AM) cjhx9: deg
(8:37:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \^~^/
(8:37:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(8:37:19 AM) cjhx9: ill be on shortly if you are still here
(8:37:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:37:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(8:37:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(8:37:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i might not be but will for a bit later
(8:37:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: at least
(8:37:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i mean
(8:37:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sooner
(8:37:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: around noon
(8:37:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
08:55
(8:57:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
(8:58:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(8:59:21 AM) cjhx9: gu deg gu
(8:59:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu <AUTO-REPLY> :  I'll be back later!
(8:59:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: GU
(8:59:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu is no longer away.
09:00
(9:00:50 AM) cjhx9: i picked the wrong shirt lol
(9:00:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:00:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:01:01 AM) cjhx9: it reeks of pot
(9:01:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(9:01:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(9:01:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg ;~;
(9:01:15 AM) cjhx9: i split bong water on it i guess
(9:01:52 AM) cjhx9: i dont have a bong but i say bong water since its a popular term
(9:01:56 AM) cjhx9: i have a bubbler tho
(9:02:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:02:30 AM) cjhx9: gu
(9:02:33 AM) cjhx9: 30 chs of akagi
(9:02:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:02:41 AM) cjhx9: will that cover all of the anime?
(9:02:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: reading online or downloaded
(9:02:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and i said that i doubt it will
(9:02:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: threeish volumes
(9:02:54 AM) cjhx9: http://www.onemanga.com/Akagi/
(9:03:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: won't make 26 episodes
(9:03:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just doesn't happen gu
(9:03:09 AM) cjhx9: look at ch 30 see if it does
(9:03:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg.
(9:04:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:04:30 AM) cjhx9: gu?
09:05
(9:05:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:05:49 AM) cjhx9: i dont know how to play mahjong
(9:05:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway gu...
(9:05:56 AM) cjhx9: will i be at a disadvantage?
(9:05:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you shouldn't have to know
(9:06:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well
(9:06:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's more of an opportunity cost
(9:06:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:06:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: there are good moments anyway
(9:06:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway gu
(9:06:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: like i thought
(9:06:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: c30 doesn't even get to washizu iwao
(9:07:10 AM) cjhx9: gu
(9:07:28 AM) cjhx9: washigu iwaodeg
(9:09:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:09:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish you could watch but
(9:09:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i guess you only have time in class
09:10
(9:10:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: game well
(9:10:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(9:12:04 AM) cjhx9: deg
(9:12:16 AM) cjhx9: i dont understand mahjong at all
(9:12:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's okay deg
(9:12:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:12:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the anime is probably a lot better...
(9:13:49 AM) cjhx9: gu
(9:13:52 AM) cjhx9: i like akagi
(9:14:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
(9:14:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the character?
(9:14:35 AM) cjhx9: yes
(9:14:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why?
09:15
(9:15:00 AM) cjhx9: he seems cool
(9:15:07 AM) cjhx9: acessed the guy in ch 1
(9:15:18 AM) cjhx9: said he was betting his life but was trying to play it safe
(9:15:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ;p
(9:16:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the guy bet his life?
(9:17:10 AM) cjhx9: akagi is 13?
(9:17:12 AM) cjhx9: wtf
(9:17:16 AM) cjhx9: he looks 30
(9:18:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:18:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lol
(9:19:53 AM) cjhx9: i completely bsed this one assignment 
(9:19:58 AM) cjhx9: i got a 95 on it 
09:20
(9:20:14 AM) cjhx9: i was really sad in my work but i was rushed because im a procrastinator
(9:21:07 AM) cjhx9: what a bastard
(9:21:16 AM) cjhx9: made akagi play mahjong
(9:21:21 AM) cjhx9: cause he didnt want to d ie
(9:23:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:23:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what bastard
09:25
(9:25:00 AM) cjhx9: gu dunno his name
(9:25:09 AM) cjhx9: akagi was wet cause he did a game of chicken
(9:25:11 AM) cjhx9: hes bad ass
(9:25:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(9:25:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: XD
(9:25:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi is hardcore
(9:25:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i like how the other person panicked, which made it worse for him
(9:25:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi didn't panic though
(9:25:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: iirc
(9:25:51 AM) cjhx9: the guys name is nangou
(9:25:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:26:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i can't remember
(9:26:02 AM) cjhx9: the one that let him play
(9:26:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i think he doesn't mean a lot
(9:26:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well
(9:26:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: okay akagi and his opponents do
(9:26:57 AM) cjhx9: lmfao
(9:27:01 AM) cjhx9: he switched the tiles
(9:27:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ;p
(9:27:32 AM) cjhx9: gotta do some classwork shit
(9:28:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
09:40
(9:44:11 AM) cjhx9: lmao
(9:44:17 AM) cjhx9: the yakuza boss is awesome
(9:44:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how?
(9:44:40 AM) cjhx9: his bro asked him to get the best player to come since akagi was winning
09:45
(9:45:03 AM) cjhx9: and he threw his drink in his face
(9:45:09 AM) cjhx9: and then slammed his head on the table
(9:45:12 AM) cjhx9: plus he looks cool
(9:45:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:45:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: his bro?
(9:45:22 AM) cjhx9: the boss
(9:45:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no
(9:45:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i was asking
(9:45:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: his brother or just a man of his?
(9:46:14 AM) cjhx9: gu
(9:46:22 AM) cjhx9: i dont know the translation said bro
(9:46:40 AM) cjhx9: http://www.onemanga.com/Akagi/4/04/
09:55
(9:55:23 AM) cjhx9: so he can hear the voice of the tiles?
(9:55:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(9:56:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: akagi has some supernatural stuff in it in ways
(9:56:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg...
10:05
(10:07:18 AM) cjhx9: i dont like the art style in this manga
(10:07:22 AM) cjhx9: their chins gu
(10:07:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lol
(10:07:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well
(10:07:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: hopefully the art doesn't make you drop it
(10:07:49 AM) cjhx9: gu
(10:07:53 AM) cjhx9: well im 1/5th done
(10:07:56 AM) cjhx9: so i dont think so
(10:08:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: guud
(10:08:44 AM) cjhx9: gu
(10:08:48 AM) cjhx9: akagi has hax
(10:09:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he's still a good character
(10:09:08 AM) cjhx9: yeah
(10:09:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he risks everything
(10:09:18 AM) cjhx9: the series wouldnt be good if he was normal
(10:09:26 AM) cjhx9: just reading a mahjong game
(10:09:29 AM) cjhx9: would blow
(10:09:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(10:09:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ;p
10:10
(10:11:09 AM) cjhx9: hmm
(10:11:14 AM) cjhx9: yagi looks like akagi
(10:11:20 AM) cjhx9: he might have the same ability
(10:13:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(10:14:50 AM) cjhx9: gu
(10:14:59 AM) cjhx9: im sure i would enjoy this alot more if i knew the rules
10:15
(10:15:09 AM) cjhx9: but the shocked looks on their faces make me excited
(10:15:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(10:15:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(10:15:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well all you need to know is that mahjong has many combinations with different values
(10:16:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and if you take someone's discard to use yourself it can hurt them, especially if you win because of that
(10:16:33 AM) cjhx9: gu
10:25
(10:29:01 AM) cjhx9: gu
(10:29:10 AM) cjhx9: i wish i could sell a finger for a million dollars
(10:29:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(10:29:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish i could too and had an extra finger
(10:29:29 AM) cjhx9: guuuu
(10:29:41 AM) cjhx9: so akagi is betting his fingers vs yagi
(10:29:43 AM) cjhx9: interesting
(10:29:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
10:30
(10:31:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(10:31:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i need sleep badly
(10:31:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'll be back in a few hours i hope
(10:31:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well
(10:31:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(10:32:38 AM) cjhx9: gu well
(10:32:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(10:33:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu has gone away.
13:00
(1:04:40 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
14:05
(2:08:41 PM) cjhx9: wow akagi is awesome
(2:08:42 PM) Daisuki Daikisu <AUTO-REPLY> :  I'll be back later!
(2:09:14 PM) cjhx9: he doubled his bet , then he is going to bet 8 million. he met with kids and blew this guys knee off
15:00
(3:00:15 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
15:15
(3:17:15 PM) Daisuki Daikisu is no longer away.
(3:17:22 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(3:17:27 PM) cjhx9: deg
(3:17:35 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: blew knee off?
(3:17:44 PM) cjhx9: yes he pulled a gun out and shot him in the knee
(3:17:49 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh right
(3:17:51 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: the bullies
(3:17:58 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: or whatever
(3:18:16 PM) cjhx9: yeah
(3:18:25 PM) cjhx9: im on ch 18 right now i had to do school work
(3:18:31 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(3:18:32 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(3:18:45 PM) cjhx9: right now nangou is facing the blind guy
(3:18:51 PM) cjhx9: akagi hasnt shown up
(3:19:14 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
15:20
(3:20:14 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: the anime was surely better in some ways
(3:20:49 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: guud music and stuff
(3:21:33 PM) cjhx9: gu
(3:21:42 PM) cjhx9: i am goign to dl it 
(3:21:58 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(3:22:20 PM) cjhx9: girl told me she dosent like me and called me a smart ass
(3:22:24 PM) cjhx9: in my mangement class
(3:22:34 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(3:22:35 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: bbl
(3:22:41 PM) cjhx9: gu deg
(3:22:43 PM) cjhx9: bye
15:40
(3:40:25 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
16:15
(4:16:57 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
16:25
(4:29:34 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
17:00
(5:00:52 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
17:35
(5:37:16 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
18:00
(6:02:42 PM) cjhx9: degzuki
19:20
(7:23:16 PM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
19:45
(7:47:42 PM) cjhx9: http://www.onemanga.com/Akagi/22/21/
(7:47:43 PM) cjhx9: gu
21:05
(9:06:05 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
21:10
(9:10:29 PM) Daisuki Daikisu: degical sandeg
23:50
(11:52:04 PM) cjhx9: gu
00:00
(6/23/2009 12:02:11 AM) cjhx9: i read all the akagi manga out
(12:02:19 AM) cjhx9: but i have the series downloaded
00:15
(12:18:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:19:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(12:19:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: watch well
(12:19:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but gu
(12:19:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: kino well before you turn thirty
(12:19:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: okay?
(12:19:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
00:20
(12:21:20 AM) cjhx9: gu
(12:21:43 AM) cjhx9: the manga got to the point of the fake akagi
(12:22:08 AM) cjhx9: he was challenging akagi to pick up a certian combo out of 8 tiles
(12:22:15 AM) cjhx9: 2.17% chance to do it or something
(12:22:30 AM) cjhx9: then there was no next ch so i dont know what happens
(12:23:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:23:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's funny though
(12:23:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he'll believe if he randomly got a 2% thing
(12:23:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but really
(12:23:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: odds aren't that bad
(12:23:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: could happen randomly
(12:23:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:24:06 AM) cjhx9: 2% of the time lol
(12:24:26 AM) cjhx9: its not that bad you classify rare as like .05%
(12:24:37 AM) cjhx9: so its unlikely?
(12:24:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:24:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not that bad?
(12:24:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:24:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just saying
(12:24:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's not like winning the lottery
(12:24:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's just
00:25
(12:25:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: happens occasionally
(12:25:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: usually not but
(12:25:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not like it's wildly unexpected
(12:25:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:25:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anime
(12:25:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well
(12:25:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(12:25:39 AM) cjhx9: gu
(12:26:01 AM) cjhx9: did you eat the doctor's mahjong piece todeg>
(12:26:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:26:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(12:27:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: a new druggu but
(12:27:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:27:43 AM) cjhx9: gu!
(12:27:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:27:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
(12:27:51 AM) cjhx9: weed?
(12:27:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no
(12:28:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: weed would be too good
(12:28:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it would actually work
(12:28:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:28:13 AM) cjhx9: they should give you weed it would solve alot of things
(12:28:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah...
(12:28:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: free weed for everyone
(12:28:28 AM) cjhx9: guuuu
(12:28:30 AM) cjhx9: no
(12:28:46 AM) cjhx9: well ok 
(12:28:54 AM) cjhx9: everyone that is left after iowa is nuked
(12:29:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu has signed on.
00:30
(12:31:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 
[2009/06/22  23:28:25] Karmino: everyone that is left after iowa is nuked
[2009/06/22  23:28:50] Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
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[2009/06/22  23:28:56] Daisuki Daikisu: deg
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(12:31:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg...
(12:32:35 AM) cjhx9: gu
(12:32:41 AM) cjhx9: is it your connection or mine?
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(12:42:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(12:42:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't know
(12:42:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: probably mine
(12:42:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:42:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in a couple of hours the 5.54 GB torrent i'm downloading will finish
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(12:47:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(12:47:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i might sleepig soon
(12:48:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't know for how long
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(1:01:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
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(1:18:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg?
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(1:26:23 AM) cjhx9: gu
(1:26:24 AM) cjhx9: sorry
(1:26:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(1:26:46 AM) cjhx9: are you sleepig soon?
(1:26:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: soon
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(1:30:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(1:30:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sleep well
(1:30:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sleepig well
(1:30:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well
(1:30:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu well
(1:30:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu well
(1:30:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: fugu well
(1:30:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: guin well
(1:30:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: pig well
(1:30:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: toad well
(1:30:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \^~^/
(1:30:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(1:30:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*^*/
(1:30:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \^~^/
(1:30:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
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(1:37:15 AM) cjhx9: guuu
(1:37:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu <AUTO-REPLY> :  I'll be back later!
(1:37:21 AM) cjhx9: i was gonna tell you something
(1:37:38 AM) cjhx9: deg well
(1:38:02 AM) cjhx9: but did you know there is a manga called "Ten" which has akagi in it 
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(3:53:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(3:53:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if i knew i forgot
(3:53:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: is it by the same mangaka?
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(3:55:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: brb
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(3:56:51 AM) cjhx9: gu
(3:56:55 AM) cjhx9: yeah
(3:57:03 AM) cjhx9: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akagi_(manga)
(3:57:16 AM) cjhx9: first paragraph
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(3:58:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(3:58:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
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(4:00:30 AM) cjhx9: gu
(4:00:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:00:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what did you say?
(4:00:52 AM) cjhx9: (3:56:51 AM) cjhx9: gu
(3:56:55 AM) cjhx9: yeah
(3:57:03 AM) cjhx9: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akagi_(manga)
(3:57:16 AM) cjhx9: first paragraph
(4:02:12 AM) cjhx9: is akagi guman?
(4:02:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:02:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: he's human
(4:02:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or guman
(4:02:29 AM) cjhx9: ok
(4:02:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why?
(4:02:47 AM) cjhx9: they make all these references to him being the devil
(4:03:00 AM) cjhx9: like he came in when the guy wished for help even from the devil
(4:03:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:03:10 AM) cjhx9: they say he brings his luck up from hell
(4:03:25 AM) cjhx9: i did like the time skip
(4:03:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just them reacting strongly deg
(4:03:33 AM) cjhx9: guuu
(4:03:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: skipped well?
(4:03:48 AM) cjhx9: i watched some of the anime 
(4:03:51 AM) cjhx9: was interesting 
(4:04:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: from where you stopped reading or from the beginning?
(4:04:44 AM) cjhx9: from where i stopped
(4:04:48 AM) cjhx9: i might do from the beginning
(4:04:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the anime is better in ways
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(4:05:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't think they fillered or anything
(4:05:14 AM) cjhx9: since it was only up to episode 8 the manga got into
(4:05:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and it had good music and seiyuuing
(4:05:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
(4:05:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: degisode eight
(4:05:47 AM) cjhx9: i like the plot 
(4:05:52 AM) cjhx9: akagi is such a bastard
(4:06:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
(4:06:10 AM) cjhx9: i read up on the rules of mahjong 
(4:06:18 AM) cjhx9: and played online 
(4:06:21 AM) cjhx9: pretty fun game 
(4:06:39 AM) cjhx9: there are like 83 winning combinations
(4:07:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you mean the types of hands?
(4:07:01 AM) cjhx9: i cant find the variation akagi plays 
(4:07:03 AM) cjhx9: yeah 
(4:07:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:07:11 AM) cjhx9: the ones online all involve flowers 
(4:07:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg.
(4:07:22 AM) cjhx9: meaning if you have them in your hand you get bonus points
(4:07:41 AM) cjhx9: and each flower has a cooresponding wind 
(4:07:49 AM) cjhx9: but i think mahjong is my type of game
(4:07:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how?
(4:08:14 AM) cjhx9: i have a pretty good ability at remembering cards ... i dunno about tiles specially since there are almost 4 times as many tiles as cards
(4:08:31 AM) cjhx9: but i played cards everyday like 5 hours a day for a year
(4:08:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: played with whom?
(4:08:45 AM) cjhx9: people at school
(4:08:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why 5 hours?
(4:08:53 AM) cjhx9: we turned anime club into just playing cards lol
(4:08:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(4:09:08 AM) cjhx9: because of school and how breaks work
(4:09:13 AM) cjhx9: people couldnt get a ride
(4:09:15 AM) cjhx9: and i had night classes
(4:09:21 AM) cjhx9: so i just stayed and played 
(4:09:25 AM) cjhx9: did homework and stuff 
(4:09:49 AM) cjhx9: anyways i can remember what has been played since there are 52 cards
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(4:10:07 AM) cjhx9: i can subtract 13 (we play a game called 13 ... so everyone gets 13 cards)
(4:10:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:10:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why subtract?
(4:10:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what's 13?
(4:10:33 AM) cjhx9: i more or less know the odds of having 3 of a kind , doubles , 4 of a kind .. 
(4:10:52 AM) cjhx9: subtract 13 because i know what my cards are in my hand 
(4:10:55 AM) cjhx9: no one else can have those
(4:11:03 AM) cjhx9: so only 39 cards left 
(4:11:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:11:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i thought you meant points or card values
(4:11:19 AM) cjhx9: nah
(4:11:25 AM) cjhx9: want me to explain the rules of 13?
(4:11:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not just accounting for your hand
(4:11:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you said subtract so gu...
(4:11:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you can explain
(4:11:46 AM) cjhx9: gu
(4:11:58 AM) cjhx9: 2-4 players... but best played with 4 people 
(4:12:36 AM) cjhx9: everyone is dealt 13 cards... 3 of spades starts off first round than after that winner goes first... if someone new joins then 3 of spades goes first
(4:12:59 AM) cjhx9: suit matters so spade-club-diamond-hearts from lowest to highest
(4:13:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why if someone new
(4:13:04 AM) cjhx9: heart > spade
(4:13:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: isn't it 3s anyway?
(4:13:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:13:21 AM) cjhx9: to make it fair its just the rule
(4:13:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:13:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm saying
(4:13:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 3s starts anyway
(4:13:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so why say again
(4:13:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that if someone new joins
(4:13:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that nothing changes
(4:13:48 AM) cjhx9: anyways a player can dictate a "rule" to play
(4:13:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(4:14:15 AM) cjhx9: like you go first so you set the rule and everyone has to follow it until the round is decided
(4:14:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why did you mention 3s again for new players specifically?
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(4:15:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what rules can be set though
(4:15:03 AM) cjhx9: so you can play  singles , doubles , 3 of a kind , quads( this has a special property) , straights (ex: 3-4-5...... minimum of 3)
(4:15:14 AM) cjhx9: so say i play 3 of a kind 
(4:15:25 AM) cjhx9: the next player has to lay down a higher 3 of a kind or skip
(4:15:43 AM) cjhx9: if someone beats it then they take control and you have another chance to beat it
(4:15:52 AM) cjhx9: if everyone passes then you set a new rule 
(4:16:04 AM) cjhx9: so say i lay down 3-3-3 and someone lays 5-5-5 
(4:16:17 AM) cjhx9: no one can beat it in this ficticious situation
(4:16:30 AM) cjhx9: so the person who layed down 5-5-5 takes control and they can decide how to play
(4:16:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what's the goal?
(4:16:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just to get rid of your hand?
(4:16:50 AM) cjhx9: say they want to lay down 6-7-8-9-10-j-q-k
(4:16:56 AM) cjhx9: yeah to get rid of the hand
(4:17:08 AM) cjhx9: anyways there are some special situations
(4:17:25 AM) cjhx9: order of cards goes from 3-Ace 
(4:17:29 AM) cjhx9: well 3-2
(4:17:33 AM) cjhx9: 2 is the highest card 
(4:17:43 AM) cjhx9: and like i said before 2 of hearts is the highest in the game
(4:17:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then what's 3?
(4:17:54 AM) cjhx9: 3 is the lowest
(4:18:15 AM) cjhx9: 3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-j-q-k-a-2
(4:18:17 AM) cjhx9: thats the order
(4:18:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:18:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you didn't say
(4:18:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 3-ace
(4:18:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: really 2-3
(4:18:40 AM) cjhx9: so anyways say someone lays down the 
(4:18:45 AM) cjhx9: 2 of hearts
(4:18:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why did you mention 3s again for new players specifically?
(4:18:55 AM) cjhx9: because it just makes it fair 
(4:19:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:19:07 AM) cjhx9: the leading player has an advantage
(4:19:12 AM) cjhx9: means they can set the first rule
(4:19:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: can you understand what i'm saying?
(4:19:17 AM) cjhx9: yeah
(4:19:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you said 3s always starts
(4:19:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so why mention it again
(4:19:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: for new players
(4:19:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's always 3s anyway
(4:19:34 AM) cjhx9: it always starts the first round 
(4:19:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:19:43 AM) cjhx9: after that its the winner
(4:19:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: please try to understand me
(4:19:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu...
(4:19:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i think i might understand now
(4:19:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but deg
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(4:20:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you seriously don't explain well
(4:20:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway you're saying that
(4:20:09 AM) cjhx9: its just the variation we play
(4:20:15 AM) cjhx9: i have played where 3 of spades always goes
(4:20:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if the number of players doesn't change
(4:20:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then after the first round the winner starts
(4:20:27 AM) cjhx9: yes
(4:20:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:20:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you really should explain better
(4:20:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway it seems broken
(4:20:50 AM) cjhx9: anyways there are special properties or combos
(4:20:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: loser should start
(4:21:04 AM) cjhx9: say someone lays down a 2 of hearts
(4:21:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: winner starting just makes the winner win even more
(4:21:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: unfair
(4:21:12 AM) cjhx9: normally this is unbeatable its the highest card 
(4:21:40 AM) cjhx9: well there is something called a bomb which is 4 of a kind , or 3 pairs sequencially (ex: 44-55-66
(4:21:57 AM) cjhx9: you can play a bomb and that will beat a 2 but someone can play a higher bomb
(4:22:11 AM) cjhx9: so 77--88-99 can beat that
(4:22:32 AM) cjhx9: i know i didnt explain well 
(4:22:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:22:42 AM) cjhx9: this was going to be my final programming project
(4:22:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg!
(4:22:51 AM) cjhx9: i actually did a prototype that worked 
(4:23:00 AM) cjhx9: i was going to implement online play
(4:23:04 AM) cjhx9: but never got around to it 
(4:23:17 AM) cjhx9: anyways my partner was a ass and was like oh i dont want to use that
(4:23:25 AM) cjhx9: so we did a calculator.... 
(4:23:39 AM) cjhx9: calculator that could graph... output your data into stacks 
(4:23:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:23:53 AM) cjhx9: and you could recall information from the stacks kinda like a print out 
(4:23:58 AM) cjhx9: like 2+2 =4
(4:24:03 AM) cjhx9: you can recall that data
(4:24:11 AM) cjhx9: had variables also 
(4:24:22 AM) cjhx9: formula input 
(4:24:30 AM) cjhx9: it had user defined formulas also
(4:24:45 AM) cjhx9: you typed in a formula and then you inserted what each variable was
(4:24:50 AM) cjhx9: and it would calculate it 
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(4:25:16 AM) cjhx9: like k= n log n^2 /42
(4:25:26 AM) cjhx9: define k . define n
(4:26:00 AM) cjhx9: it was done in java... ugh the order of operations was so fucking shitty
(4:26:06 AM) cjhx9: do you know anything about programming?
(4:26:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: shouldn't you only have to define one of k and n?
(4:26:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anything? i know some but guuu
(4:27:40 AM) cjhx9: ah that fucker
(4:27:47 AM) cjhx9: he updated the gaming engine 
(4:27:57 AM) cjhx9: i made some games and had them online you could play
(4:28:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the calculator person?
(4:28:16 AM) cjhx9: no the professor
(4:28:49 AM) cjhx9: its just my images that messed up
(4:29:03 AM) cjhx9: so they arent on the server so when i called them they dont return
(4:29:10 AM) cjhx9: and the program wont compile
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(4:30:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg...
(4:30:30 AM) cjhx9: gu
(4:30:37 AM) cjhx9: i got something to work
(4:31:05 AM) cjhx9: if it will load....
(4:31:20 AM) cjhx9: anyways i have made online games before
(4:31:47 AM) cjhx9: perhaps i should remake 13 
(4:31:59 AM) cjhx9: but do it in C++ or even objective C
(4:32:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:32:08 AM) cjhx9: sell that shit on the iphone
(4:32:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wish you could do my recent game
(4:32:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: most recent invention
(4:32:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: really a variation here
(4:32:30 AM) cjhx9: guuuu?
(4:32:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: four card poker
(4:32:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but i think the hardest part
(4:33:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: would be getting computer players to play correctly for 2, 3, and 4 players
(4:33:09 AM) cjhx9: hehe
(4:33:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because you need higher hands to win with more players
(4:33:19 AM) cjhx9: i actually have a working poker game i made
(4:33:23 AM) cjhx9: with fully working ai
(4:33:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:33:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and how does it compensate for fewer or more players
(4:33:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if it doesn't then it's inferior to me
(4:33:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to me playing
(4:34:01 AM) cjhx9: poker or holdem
(4:34:04 AM) cjhx9: is there a river
(4:34:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no...
(4:34:11 AM) cjhx9: or is it decided by just the players hand
(4:34:17 AM) cjhx9: nevermind you said 4 card
(4:34:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just the hand but you can trade up to two
(4:34:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so that's the thing
(4:34:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: with more players some hands drastically decrease their winning percentages
(4:34:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so they need to be devalued relative to two players
04:35
(4:35:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: which means that when it calculates all possible draws
(4:35:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it needs to find the one with the highest odds of winning
(4:35:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so you want % chance of hand type winning
(4:35:36 AM) cjhx9: do you have any java editor on your computer?
(4:35:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: x % chance on drawing it
(4:35:44 AM) cjhx9: like eclipse , java beans/
(4:35:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: for each type of hand in each draw
(4:36:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't think i have one
(4:36:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but gu
(4:36:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do you understand
(4:36:30 AM) cjhx9: i understand
(4:36:42 AM) cjhx9: so if there are 4 players then dont make the AI go for 4 of a kind
(4:36:48 AM) cjhx9: go for a reasonable pair
(4:36:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg...
(4:36:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no
(4:37:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: four of a kind is too good anyway
(4:37:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 2^-1/n is the place where you have even odds of winning with n players
(4:37:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so if you ran it so it played say 1000 hands quickly
(4:37:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then recalculated the point
(4:37:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i mean
(4:37:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: rather just figure out all hands that won
(4:37:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: their types
(4:37:51 AM) cjhx9: well i could make a tester to play 1000 hands
(4:37:56 AM) cjhx9: then calculate the odds from that
(4:37:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu but
(4:38:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the thing is
(4:38:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: changing the target hands
(4:38:18 AM) cjhx9: gu explain more 
(4:38:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: makes the odds for each type of hand winning change, too
(4:38:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway a pair isn't good
(4:38:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: especially with >2 players
(4:38:38 AM) cjhx9: well why 4 card poker?
(4:38:44 AM) cjhx9: you cant do full houses
(4:38:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you have a pair at the end you probably lost
(4:38:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:38:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: there are some reasons
(4:38:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i have various types of hands
(4:39:00 AM) cjhx9: the best you can do is a straight flush
(4:39:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i should mention first
(4:39:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no gu
(4:39:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'll list the hands in degscending order
04:40
(4:40:21 AM) cjhx9: gross
(4:40:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 4ki, 4sf, 4fl, 3sf, 3ki, 2pa, 4su(ited; one of each suit), 3fl, 4st, 2sf, 2ki (1 pair), 3st, 2fl, 2st
(4:40:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gross?
(4:40:29 AM) cjhx9: picked up the wrong can and drank out of it 
(4:40:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why
(4:40:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(4:40:35 AM) cjhx9: could be days old
(4:40:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: can of what
(4:40:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(4:40:39 AM) cjhx9: dr pepper
(4:40:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway the deck only has 9-A of each suit
(4:40:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so 24 cards
(4:41:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and straights can go around the bend
(4:41:04 AM) cjhx9: 3 straight flush?
(4:41:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:41:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's a good hand
(4:41:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but not a top hand
(4:41:16 AM) cjhx9: you cant have to have 4 cards at all time?
(4:41:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: can't?
(4:41:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why should it
(4:41:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i
(4:41:26 AM) cjhx9: wait
(4:41:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:41:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's more fun with more types
(4:41:37 AM) cjhx9: are you saying 3spade 4 spade 5 spade 7 hearts 
(4:41:41 AM) cjhx9: thats a 3sf?
(4:41:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:41:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: except
(4:41:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i said
(4:42:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 
[2009/06/23  03:40:20] Daisuki Daikisu: anyway the deck only has 9-A of each suit
[2009/06/23  03:40:23] Daisuki Daikisu: so 24 cards
[2009/06/23  03:40:32] Daisuki Daikisu: and straights can go around the bend
(4:42:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:42:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so 9akh is one
(4:42:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: with a dead card
(4:42:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: kicker
(4:42:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's a 9 high 3sf
(4:42:40 AM) cjhx9: why not a ace high?
(4:42:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because
(4:42:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the ace isn't the lead card
(4:42:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's only fair
(4:42:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's not ak9
(4:43:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's not the order
(4:43:04 AM) cjhx9: ok
(4:43:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: order is descending
(4:43:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so 9 > a
(4:43:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 9 is used
(4:43:20 AM) cjhx9: ok i get it now
(4:43:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if it was a 3fl or a 4fl then any aces count
(4:43:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but in straights/sfs
(4:43:42 AM) cjhx9: ok so a pair is shit basicallly in this variation
(4:43:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you go by the lead card
(4:43:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: pair isn't total shit but
(4:43:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:43:52 AM) cjhx9: your odds of everything go way up
(4:43:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you don't want to end up with a pair
(4:44:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: odds of what go up when?
(4:44:15 AM) cjhx9: 4 of a kind is not that rare compared to regualr poker
(4:44:26 AM) cjhx9: 24 cards 
(4:44:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's still under 1%
(4:44:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i know
(4:44:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i calculated the odds to rank the types of hands
(4:44:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i like having achievable hands
(4:44:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you play a bunch
(4:44:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you'll have some 4sfs and 4fls
04:45
(4:45:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and maybe even a 4ki
(4:45:07 AM) cjhx9: is that 24! / 24x23x22x21?
(4:45:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no...
(4:45:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: acctually it's 24!/20!
(4:45:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well...
(4:45:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no...
(4:45:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:45:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's
(4:46:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 24!/20!/4! i think...
(4:46:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 24x23x22x21/4/3/2/1
(4:46:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so just 23x22x21
(4:47:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 10626
(4:47:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i think
(4:47:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: number of combinations
(4:47:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not permutations
(4:47:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg?
(4:47:43 AM) cjhx9: i think you are wrong
(4:47:46 AM) cjhx9: http://poker.sportinglife.com/Strategies/story_55895.shtml
(4:47:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: there's a lot of overlap in the low hands
(4:47:56 AM) cjhx9: 1/4165
(4:47:59 AM) cjhx9: for 5 cards
(4:48:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what about it?
(4:48:13 AM) cjhx9: so 4 cards and the fact you have 24 cards inthe deck
(4:48:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: odds of what?
(4:48:20 AM) cjhx9: the odds could be way higher
(4:48:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg, i'm not wrong
(4:48:24 AM) cjhx9: of 4 of a king
(4:48:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i thought you were asking about how many hands were possible
(4:48:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i already said
(4:48:38 AM) cjhx9: oh no
(4:48:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: odds are much higher
(4:48:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: for this
(4:48:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 4ki
(4:49:15 AM) cjhx9: gug
(4:49:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: uguu
(4:49:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you had a program that could just deal cards
(4:49:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and let you draw
(4:49:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we could play it
(4:49:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and you'd see how it's good in some ways
(4:49:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i like 4su
(4:49:53 AM) cjhx9: http://www.pagat.com/climbing/thirteen.html
(4:49:56 AM) cjhx9: if you want to play 13
04:50
(4:50:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and i like how top hands almost always win but you can get them
(4:50:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:50:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: don't want 13 much...
(4:50:13 AM) cjhx9: gu
(4:50:17 AM) cjhx9: gugugugugugugugggggggggg
(4:50:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:50:24 AM) cjhx9: i akagi'd for you
(4:50:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: for me?
(4:50:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: wouldn't a shuffling/dealing/draw dealing program be easier
(4:50:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we can see who wins
(4:51:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: besides that it just needs to know to keep our hands hidden from each other
(4:51:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: until the draw ends
(4:51:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and alternate the first one to draw each time
(4:51:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or better yet
(4:51:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just
(4:51:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: have draw sizes only be revealed when both lock in their choices
(4:51:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and also limit the draw to 2 cards at most
(4:52:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or at least let everyone know the number drawn
(4:52:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so you can't cheat
(4:52:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and draw a whole new hand
(4:52:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:52:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: still complex but it's not like 13s ai
(4:52:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or whatever you did
(4:53:24 AM) cjhx9: i got the shuffling/dealing/ draw program working 100%
(4:53:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(4:53:40 AM) cjhx9: also my program has properties that  only you can see your hand
(4:53:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what about hiding cards and locking in and validating draws
(4:53:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because
(4:53:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you can't know how many were drawn
(4:53:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then anyone could cheat
(4:54:01 AM) cjhx9: hmmm
(4:54:04 AM) cjhx9: implementing a count
(4:54:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: alternatively just limit draws to 2 max
(4:54:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but tbh
(4:54:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'd prefer to know how many, too
(4:54:21 AM) cjhx9: and set a statement that if count >2 not a valid move 
(4:54:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: at the time when hands are revealed
(4:54:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(4:54:31 AM) cjhx9: if a card is drawn count --
(4:54:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we can confirm the hands ourselves though
(4:54:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to see who won
(4:54:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you want to play with me or others
(4:54:52 AM) cjhx9: have a deck counter in the corner 
(4:54:58 AM) cjhx9: so say 2 players currently
04:55
(4:55:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: does it reshuffle after each hand?
(4:55:09 AM) cjhx9: yes
(4:55:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: also
(4:55:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: did you make the degck right
(4:55:20 AM) cjhx9: but say 2 plays 24 cards
(4:55:24 AM) cjhx9: 4 dealt to each player
(4:55:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just 9, t, j, q, k, a
(4:55:30 AM) cjhx9: so 16 left
(4:55:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah, but you can reshuffle after each round
(4:55:44 AM) cjhx9: then just make sure t here are never less than 12 cards in the deck
(4:55:51 AM) cjhx9: there should never be
(4:55:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah...
(4:55:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so if neither drew
(4:56:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then you dealt four to one player
(4:56:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then deal one to the other
(4:56:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and it realizes?
(4:56:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and just takes all back
(4:56:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and reshuffles?
(4:56:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then deals?
(4:56:26 AM) cjhx9: well thats why you put in a if statement 
(4:56:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:56:33 AM) cjhx9: set a draw variable to 2 
(4:56:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: guuu
(4:56:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just confirming
(4:56:48 AM) cjhx9: so you cant draw more than 2 
(4:56:58 AM) cjhx9: like you do this
(4:57:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it might be easier to tell it to reset and shuffle after a button is pressed by both players
(4:57:06 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because
(4:57:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we need time to see our hands, too
(4:57:16 AM) cjhx9: you have a hand ... i would make an array so that each card has a position in the array
(4:57:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: after we show them to each other
(4:57:25 AM) cjhx9: [ 0 1 2 3]
(4:57:39 AM) cjhx9: so say you give up card 2 and 3
(4:57:51 AM) cjhx9: then draw 1 replaces 2 , draw 2 replaces 3
(4:58:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:58:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's right
(4:58:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'm just concerned about when it reshuffles
(4:58:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and when it takes away our hands
(4:58:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: since we need to see them
(4:58:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to determine the winner
(4:58:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and discuss
(4:58:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: like if
(4:58:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you have a lucky draw
(4:58:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or that round is a good match where both have good hands
(4:59:00 AM) cjhx9: well divide the game into staps
(4:59:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we need it to only reset after we confirm that
(4:59:03 AM) cjhx9: steps
(4:59:16 AM) cjhx9: 1) deal out cards 
(4:59:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so it doesn't instantly or even eventually move on
(4:59:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(4:59:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: about that
(4:59:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you mean random dealing with no duplicates, right?
(4:59:38 AM) cjhx9: 2) player 1 decides to replace or keep cards  ( take actions if replaces)
(4:59:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and all cards are "taken back" after each hand
(4:59:46 AM) cjhx9: 3) player 2 ...... ""
(4:59:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: whatgu
(4:59:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: *waitgu
(4:59:53 AM) cjhx9: gu?
(4:59:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(4:59:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: remember i mentioned
05:00
(5:00:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: [2009/06/23  03:51:16] Daisuki Daikisu: have draw sizes only be revealed when both lock in their choices
(5:00:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's important
(5:00:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because if you don't do that
(5:00:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then player two has an advantage
(5:00:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: of knowing how many player 1 drew
(5:00:44 AM) cjhx9: hmm
(5:00:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's only fair regardless of order if no one knows until after making decisions
(5:01:06 AM) cjhx9: it is logically fair
(5:01:12 AM) cjhx9: but thats not how they do it in poker
(5:01:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: logically fair when?
(5:01:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well in poker you switch first player every time
(5:01:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but gu
(5:01:26 AM) cjhx9: when player 2 cant know how many replacements 1 did 
(5:01:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we don't need that
(5:01:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we only need simultaneousness
(5:01:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(5:01:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well rather
(5:01:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: both players pick at once
(5:01:51 AM) cjhx9: player 1 draws 1 ... ok what is he going for
(5:02:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: whoever finishes first gets dealt first after both confirmed their choices
(5:02:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what?
(5:02:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we determine that ourselves
(5:02:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: which and how many to draw
(5:02:13 AM) cjhx9: posibilities are 3sd 3k
(5:02:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then after both lock in
(5:02:27 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then it deals replacements
(5:02:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and lets all know how many each drew
(5:02:37 AM) cjhx9: okgu
(5:02:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: only after all lock in though
(5:02:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:02:50 AM) cjhx9: this is a really fast game
(5:02:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: were you thinking of having it declare the hands?
(5:02:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i don't need that since we can prove it but gu
(5:03:07 AM) cjhx9: declare?
(5:03:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe you should keep a list of hands in descending order
(5:03:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: somewhere
(5:03:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so you know
(5:03:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: declare as in
(5:03:23 AM) cjhx9: ill save the conversation
(5:03:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it finds out the best type of hand for both players
(5:03:45 AM) cjhx9: oh... erm
(5:03:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: like if you have a 3sf, a 3fl, and a 4st
(5:03:55 AM) cjhx9: well i would need to do that
(5:03:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then it declares it as a something high 3sf
(5:04:00 AM) cjhx9: to determine a winner
(5:04:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you don't need to
(5:04:05 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: we can declare ourselves
(5:04:08 AM) cjhx9: ok
(5:04:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and just keep track if you want
(5:04:12 AM) cjhx9: gud
(5:04:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: or you can do that but
(5:04:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's harder imo
(5:04:20 AM) cjhx9: since i hate arrays it would be hard
(5:04:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: than the other things
(5:04:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well actually
(5:04:36 AM) cjhx9: say you have 3s 4s 6s 5 s
(5:04:40 AM) cjhx9: this is a 4sd
(5:04:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it wouldn't be that hard
(5:04:43 AM) cjhx9: oops 
(5:04:45 AM) cjhx9: 4sf
(5:04:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: sf
(5:04:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(5:04:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i was just thinking though
(5:04:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: all it needs to do is
(5:04:58 AM) cjhx9: well the progream would say its just a flush
05:05
(5:05:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:05:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: nogu
(5:05:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:05:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i want to explain something
(5:05:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: all it needs to do is
(5:05:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: first arrange the hand into all permutations for using all four cards
(5:05:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: and check against a list of four card hands
(5:05:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then do the same with three and two
(5:05:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: one is not necessary
(5:06:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: because 2st is the lowest
(5:06:04 AM) cjhx9: ok
(5:06:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do you understand though?
(5:06:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: like
(5:06:13 AM) cjhx9: thats a pain in the ass but it can be done 
(5:06:15 AM) cjhx9: i understand
(5:06:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well
(5:06:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you don't have to
(5:06:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just how i'd do it
(5:06:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it can brute force against a fixed list fast
(5:06:38 AM) cjhx9: well i can write some code and give it to you 
(5:06:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(5:06:43 AM) cjhx9: you give feedback
(5:06:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i'll try but gu
(5:06:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i might not understand it
(5:07:01 AM) cjhx9: not feedback on the code
(5:07:05 AM) cjhx9: just on the program
(5:07:27 AM) cjhx9: ok
(5:07:31 AM) cjhx9: next thing
(5:07:38 AM) cjhx9: do you want a GUI or a text based?
(5:07:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway, just 24 4 perms, 24 3 perms, and 12 2 perms i think...
(5:07:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well gui is more fun but not needed
(5:08:07 AM) cjhx9: i kinda want to do a gui
(5:08:10 AM) cjhx9: so good
(5:08:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you can just use a, k, q, j, t, 9 of h, s, d, c if you want
(5:08:23 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh okay
(5:08:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well
(5:08:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do you want me to tell you the ideal two player strategy in general?
(5:08:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: basically there are six low hands
(5:08:51 AM) cjhx9: ok
(5:08:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that you can draw from
(5:09:00 AM) cjhx9: nothing 
(5:09:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but aren't very good themselves
(5:09:10 AM) cjhx9: missing straight
(5:09:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so i have that order
(5:09:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: missing?
(5:09:16 AM) cjhx9: like 4 5 7
(5:09:18 AM) cjhx9: trash
(5:09:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's a 2st
(5:09:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 45
(5:09:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but guu
(5:09:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: bad hand
(5:09:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: lol
(5:09:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: missing a cardgu
(5:09:38 AM) cjhx9: ok just explain
(5:09:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: explain?
(5:09:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: why there's never just high card?
(5:09:51 AM) cjhx9: the six low hands
(5:09:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: nogu
(5:09:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you wanted to use it?
05:10
(5:10:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's only good in 2 player though
(5:10:10 AM) cjhx9: guuu
(5:10:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:10:15 AM) cjhx9: okgu
(5:10:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just saying
(5:10:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: the six draws
(5:10:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i remember
(5:10:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: are based on 2 player winning odds
(5:10:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 3 player shifts things
(5:10:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in 2 player with draw
(5:11:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: a 3fl wins about half the time
(5:11:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so it's okay
(5:11:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: 4st is like 40%
(5:11:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not very good but often you're stuck with it...
(5:11:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if you don't want to discover them yourself
(5:11:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i can tell you the six bad hands
(5:11:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that you want to improve in descending order
(5:11:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: as draws
(5:12:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you never break up decent hands though
(5:12:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so those aren't especially draws
(5:12:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: but the lower ones play on draw value to a greater extent
(5:12:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: brb
(5:14:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:14:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah, there are 60 combinations it needs to look at if you want it to determine hands and/or the winner
05:15
(5:15:31 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then it just keeps the highest one and knows the ranking for that type of hand, too
(5:15:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then knows how to use kickers
(5:15:38 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: in case
(5:15:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i've drawn two hands of this
(5:15:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: out of over 1000
(5:15:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so it can happen
(5:15:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: less than 4ki really
(5:15:58 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:16:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:16:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: degging well?
(5:16:18 AM) cjhx9: gu
(5:16:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do you like making games?
(5:16:21 AM) cjhx9: im listening
(5:16:26 AM) cjhx9: they are interesting 
(5:16:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: there's a better game though
(5:16:36 AM) cjhx9: i have a pig on me right now
(5:16:37 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that i made up but
(5:16:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's more complex
(5:16:46 AM) cjhx9: lets do the basic one first
(5:16:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so gu
(5:16:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah...
(5:16:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ;p
(5:16:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you don't have to
(5:16:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: actually
(5:16:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(5:17:01 AM) cjhx9: well im bored alot 
(5:17:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wonder if online theres somewhere to play cards
(5:17:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you know?
(5:17:22 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just play without it being set as anything
(5:17:24 AM) cjhx9: iwhat do you mean?
(5:17:26 AM) cjhx9: oh
(5:17:29 AM) cjhx9: um
(5:17:36 AM) cjhx9: you can get a table top came 
(5:17:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: what's that?
(5:17:49 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just formless?
(5:17:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: dealing cards and drawing?
(5:17:57 AM) cjhx9: its a user created game  gives you stuff 
(5:17:59 AM) cjhx9: like cards
(5:18:01 AM) cjhx9: die
(5:18:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: die?
(5:18:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: dice
(5:18:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:18:16 AM) cjhx9: dice
(5:18:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: dieg
(5:18:19 AM) cjhx9: plural
(5:18:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(5:18:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well i just didn't get it at first
(5:18:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you said die
(5:18:35 AM) cjhx9: i have a pig on me 
(5:18:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: guud
(5:18:47 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: anyway what could be searched for
(5:19:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: to play without rules beyond basic drawing and so on
(5:19:25 AM) cjhx9: hmm
(5:19:30 AM) cjhx9: let me find this one program
(5:19:35 AM) cjhx9: it would have no guidelines
(5:19:45 AM) cjhx9: we would have to monitor the rules ourselves
(5:19:48 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: well isn't what you're trying to create just that except that it checks hands?
(5:19:49 AM) cjhx9: and determien the winner
(5:19:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah, would...
(5:19:52 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah
(5:19:53 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:19:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i assumed that at first but
05:20
(5:20:01 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if it shows the draw
(5:20:16 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: before all are locked in
(5:20:25 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then we'd have to change the first player each time
(5:20:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: although tbh i'd rather that it didn't show too early...
(5:22:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh gu
(5:22:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: also would have to limit the deck
(5:22:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: so i don't know
(5:22:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if anywhere can do that
(5:22:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:23:19 AM) cjhx9: i will have to ask my friend what program he uses for the tabletop
05:25
(5:25:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: http://sourceforge.net/search/?words=table+top+card+game+gui&type_of_search=soft&pmode=0&words=table+top+card+game&Search=Search
(5:25:29 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:25:58 AM) cjhx9: guuud
(5:26:02 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:26:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i thought of sourceforge
(5:26:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's a guud place
(5:26:21 AM) cjhx9: want to play your game if these programs work?
(5:26:28 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: yeah, i can
(5:26:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: probably should try a few of them though
(5:26:56 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jtable, virtual card table, and torchlight
(5:26:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe?
(5:27:00 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: any others?
(5:27:24 AM) cjhx9: ill look
(5:27:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh
(5:27:42 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: not torchlist
(5:27:43 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: light
(5:27:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: pig.
(5:28:25 AM) cjhx9: gu brb
(5:28:30 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: DEG
(5:28:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: cbs
(5:28:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jdeck maybe...
(5:29:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: smart table
(5:29:57 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: opencg maybe
05:30
(5:31:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ajaxvtt maybe...
(5:32:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: java card games
(5:32:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: that's the top 50
(5:32:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe i missed a few because of their descriptions
(5:32:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: hopefully one of the seven is good
05:35
(5:35:04 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jdeck has no way to download it
(5:36:15 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: ajaxvtt is just a demo so fuck it
05:40
(5:40:43 AM) cjhx9: ok
(5:40:58 AM) cjhx9: you named all the ones i thought were viable
(5:41:08 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(5:41:10 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: check them out
(5:41:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i downloaded some
(5:41:13 AM) cjhx9: i am
(5:41:17 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: okaygu
(5:41:28 AM) cjhx9: im messing with smarttable
(5:41:59 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jtable looks like it just has some games
(5:43:13 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how do you use smarttable
(5:43:48 AM) cjhx9: im trying to figure it out right now 
(5:43:56 AM) cjhx9: i need to find a way to compile it
05:45
(5:46:11 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: java card games is spanish i guess...
(5:46:33 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: virtual card table seems like it doesn't do much
(5:46:34 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: can't table
(5:46:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just server
(5:46:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: no other options
(5:46:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe the readme helps but gu
(5:47:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: opencg is nothing useful
(5:48:14 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jdeck is ungettable so i guess only four choices that i found
(5:48:43 AM) cjhx9: forget the smarttable
(5:48:55 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: java card is spanishgu
05:50
(5:50:20 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: virtual might work but i think you have to create cards
(5:50:50 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: jtable just has those games
(5:50:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe nothing freer
(5:51:35 AM) cjhx9: i thought there would be something easy
(5:51:39 AM) cjhx9: like just a exe to run
(5:51:40 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: then .java spanish files for java card games
(5:51:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:51:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: they're mean
(5:51:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: oh well
(5:51:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: maybe a different search
(5:51:57 AM) cjhx9: my friend has one so ill ask him
(5:52:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: guin
(5:54:45 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deguin
(5:54:51 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: how did you make your card games
05:55
(5:55:15 AM) cjhx9: first i made a text base implementation
(5:55:29 AM) cjhx9: set up the right methods for dealing , shuffling , drawing 
(5:55:44 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: gu
(5:55:56 AM) cjhx9: then at the end the program would read your hand then compare it other methods i wrong
(5:56:03 AM) cjhx9: like a 4 of a king method 
(5:56:07 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i wrong?
(5:56:07 AM) cjhx9: kind
(5:56:09 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: wrote?
(5:56:13 AM) cjhx9: i wrote
(5:56:15 AM) cjhx9: im very tired
(5:56:18 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(5:56:19 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: degus
(5:56:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: \*~*/
(5:57:26 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: do you know how to try java card games?
(5:58:21 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i think vcardtable would work, probably
(5:58:24 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: just need to make cards
06:00
(6:00:29 AM) cjhx9: can you link me?
(6:02:32 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:02:35 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: it's being slow
(6:02:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: you might want to search
(6:02:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: for it
(6:02:46 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: virtual card table
(6:02:54 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: i can't make it work yet but
(6:03:03 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: if i could just make the cards
(6:04:12 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:04:36 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:04:39 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg
(6:04:41 AM) Daisuki Daikisu: deg well