Sunday, March 18, 2012 (9:54) Jordan McGuigan 9:54 maybe you look nice and seem compatible and I'd like to get to know you 9:57 I'd certainly like to meet you 9:57 If that's not okay, I understand - but I would still like to be friends Ian Dempsey 10:01 I just don't know how to really respond to this. I've never met you, you really don't know the first thing about me outside of my limited online profile. 10:01 I'm going home, be back in a bit Jordan McGuigan 11:09 So, did you read my email? Ian Dempsey 11:10 No, what address did you send it to? Jordan McGuigan 11:10 perfect.recursion@gmail.com Ian Dempsey 11:24 Then let's start with this: 11:24 From your "Religious Beliefs" section: I believe that there is a God but he does not intervene in human lives, for it would interfere with free will. Jordan McGuigan 11:26 And? Ian Dempsey 11:26 I hate to be the one to tell you this, but there is no room for free will, and the illusion of such "freedom" pales beneath the sheer fact that you are a biological machination of a predetermined universe, and any "autonomous" decision you make is merely the result of whatever your neurological configuration happens to be at a given time., Jordan McGuigan 11:27 Perhaps. But isn't an illusion of free will sufficient enough to be defined as free will? 11:28 So basically I'm saying god doesn't interfere with free will, I say nothing about whether our brains actually give our essences free will Ian Dempsey 11:29 >But isn't an illusion of free will sufficient enough to be defined as free will? 11:29 No, "free" is too vague. Your "will" is subject to so many factors that it can never be "free" from. 11:30 Also, what is an "essence" supposed to be? That term is meanless. Jordan McGuigan 11:30 Furthermore, it's probably not a good idea to discuss Religion/Politics/Sports so early in our relationship Ian Dempsey 11:31 Oh, well then. How's the weather? Jordan McGuigan 11:31 We both live in Rochester, silly! Ian Dempsey 11:32 I was being facetious. Jordan McGuigan 11:32 In the end, isn't it meaningless anyway? Truth will be realized only in the end, or truth will be meaningless. But for our current state, truth, is only what we interpret as truth. 11:35 It's been a long time since I've been able to talk to someone on this level, I'm not used to it Ian Dempsey 11:37 It's meaningless outside of our own employed subjective meaning, and truth is meaningless in any correspondent sense. Jordan McGuigan 11:38 So might as well enjoy life while it lasts then, right? 11:40 So anyway, you're not really in an "open" relationship are you? Ian Dempsey 11:41 I'm in a relationship that is allowed to be open, but as of now I'm only with one person. 11:41 And yeah, I suppose so. Jordan McGuigan 11:42 Do you like discussing philosophy? I thought you were a CS major. Ian Dempsey 11:43 I'm a double major, CS/Philosophy Jordan McGuigan 11:43 Very nice. 11:43 An odd combination 11:43 How is school going? 11:47 Do you like discussing philosophy /with me/? I'm afraid I might be far inferiorly versed. Ian Dempsey 11:49 I like conversations that are interesting or are of depth. I'm not going to back-and-forth about inane nothings that you can already predict my answers to. 11:50 School is fine, by the way. Jordan McGuigan 11:51 I'm afraid I might not be able to produce a level of depth in the topic you'd appreciate, however. Ian Dempsey 11:51 I appreciate any topic with a level of depth. Jordan McGuigan 11:55 Do you know Jesse? Ian Dempsey 11:55 Yes. Jordan McGuigan 11:56 I had a falling out with him last summer 11:57 We were meeting up, and I don't think he ever really had feelings for me 11:58 To this day I don't know if he was legitimately interested in me or just taking advantage of me 11:58 I don't think he is interested in other guys as he says he is 11:58 But I still have thoughts about him and I miss him very much as a friend Monday, March 19, 2012 (12:00) Jordan McGuigan 12:00 No comment? Ian Dempsey 12:00 Sorry, I'm also doing homework. 12:01 But Jesse's a good guy, (and definitely is interested in other guys), and I doubt he was taking advantage of you. Jordan McGuigan 12:03 One day he just defriended (deleted me from facebook, etc, and he changed his email [my email to him bounced]) me without saying anything and I still don't know why he did it. I'd very much like to be friends with him again Ian Dempsey 12:07 Did you try asking your mutual friends if they knew anything? Jordan McGuigan 12:07 Well, interestingly enough 12:07 I asked Tristan about it, and when he defriended me and I asked Norman about it 12:08 Norman quoted Tristan as saying "All he ever talked about was Jesse" 12:08 And norman doesn't talk to me anymore either, although we are still facebook friends. I think he's just ignoring me. 12:11 There's something either he said or Tristan quoted to me saying that he had "no desire to be closer to me" but I can't seem to remember (or find) the context it was said in 12:14 Tristan Sparrow "well, i just asked him, and he said that he was trying to explain to you that he's simply not interested in you and it seemed that you didn't understand or were unwilling to accept it" 12:14 Yeah, I don't understand why he didn't tell me anything directly though Ian Dempsey 12:18 I don't know either, I'm not really aware of the context of the unfolding of those events Jordan McGuigan 12:22 Well, it's over now and since he hasn't talked to me since, I doubt he wants to be friends again. I can't forget him though. 12:26 I guess you're right. I can't escape my "current neurological context" (in the sense that my brain won't let just delete the memories) but, I also /am/ my current neurological context. Ian Dempsey True story. Jordan McGuigan I'm going to go cope with some powerful emotions that have been invoked by bringing up past memories (read: cry), then go to bed or possibly focus on something else Good luck on your homework Ian Dempsey Okay. Good luck coping with your emotions.