(10:14:46 AM) rob: first off i removed compiz, and restarted X.  it didnt like that.  gnome wouldnt start
(10:15:19 AM) rob: so i reinstalled compiz so i get gnome back
(10:15:34 AM) rob: start beryl-manager, and lose my title bars and window borders
(10:21:02 AM) rob: emerald theme manager just wouldnt do anything - i could import themes that i downladed into the manager but not apply them