(13:45:41) Cuervo: so anyway I'm getting an upgrade for the PC, and a new desk, then moving into a new bedroom sometime durig the year ad dan is getting a new pc
(13:45:53) Darwin: nice :D
(13:46:51) Cuervo: yep yep, plus I'm pretty sure my mobo can take a bigger processor and a PCI-E card
(13:47:12) Cuervo: and my RAM readers or w/e can take up to 2GB
(13:47:22) Darwin: I doubt it. Your PC has an AGP Graphics card
(13:47:35) Darwin: it's extremely rare for them to have a PCIE as well
(13:47:46) Cuervo: well 1 sec I tried to check with the manufacturers site but it's very vague
(13:48:00) Darwin: And you can't just say "Bigger Processor" it depends what type of processor you buy!
(13:48:35) Darwin: For instance you have an Athlon XP 64bit something (iirc), so you couldn't put a Pentium 4 in there.
(13:48:47) Cuervo: I know but I'm aiming for a faster and better hence larger (it's simple addition fast+big=large)
(13:49:11) Darwin: I wasn't talking about your use of words, Im making sure you understand you have to be very careful in the processor you buy.
(13:49:21) Cuervo: I will be 
(13:50:19) Cuervo: If I said on the details that it says it has a "chipset:  K8M 400 CPU to PCI Bridge" would you know what that means?
(13:50:57) Darwin: Sort of. It's not really relevant to anything
(13:52:01) Darwin: Link me to the site.
(13:52:06) Cuervo: well on the AMD site it just says that some of thier mobo's can take PCI-E cards but go check the independent lab for details and theres no results for AMD on the other site
(13:52:37) Darwin: Are you sure you have an AMD mobo? Your CPU is AMD, but your motherboard might not be.
(13:52:44) Cuervo: it's not on a site it's on a benchmark program I got because it reads all of the details of the harware etc
(13:53:05) Darwin: Okay, what model of motherboard do you have?
(13:53:50) Cuervo: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 
(13:53:55) Darwin: That is your CPU.
(13:53:56) Darwin: :)
(13:54:01) Darwin: Now. Your motherboard?
(13:54:05) Cuervo: oops
(13:54:08) Cuervo: ye 1 sec
(13:54:36) Cuervo: MS-6741
(13:55:01) Darwin: Okay
(13:55:04) Darwin: It has no PCIE
(13:55:11) Darwin: It can have upto DDR400 RAM
(13:55:28) Darwin: And it's for Socket 754 CPUs.
(13:56:27) Cuervo: I got that parts pfft 
(13:56:28) Darwin: That means, you can take an AMD Athlon 64bit (Which you have). An AMD Sempron or a AMD Turion 64bit.
(13:56:34) Cuervo: sodding graphics cards
(13:56:42) Cuervo: but thanks
(13:56:49) Darwin: You didn't have the cpu socket :/
(13:56:53) Darwin: I asked you for it before.
(13:56:54) Darwin: But yeah
(13:57:04) Darwin: In my opinion an AMD 64bit 3000+ is fine.
(13:57:12) Cuervo: the socket bit's infront of me, on the details
(13:57:28) Darwin: You don't use the 64bit fully, but the 3000+ means it's meant to be equal to a 3.0ghz Pentium processor.
(13:57:39) Cuervo: I'll most likely get that last if my games are working slowly
(13:58:01) Cuervo: well do MDIPS and MWIPS mean anything to you?
(13:58:04) Darwin: You already HAVE IT
(13:59:04) Cuervo has closed the conversation window.
(13:59:45) Cuervo: the AMD site is crap with a capital C
(14:00:59) Cuervo: well I might leave the processor and switch the mobo
(14:01:12) Darwin: If you switch the motherboard
(14:01:18) Darwin: you're likely to have to switch the processor.
(14:01:28) Darwin: Unless you get another Socket 754 Motherboard.
(14:01:37) Cuervo: thats teh plan
(14:01:52) Cuervo: well like I said do MDIPS and MWIPS mean anything to you?


(14:02:42) Darwin: Acronym	Definition
MDIPS 	Millions of Dhrystone Instructions Per Second
(14:02:50) Darwin: Stuff you shouldn't be bothered with.
(14:03:45) Cuervo: well my pc preforms better than a 3GHz processor, and I know it doesn't relate perfectly with games but it seemed odd that it did so much better