wow, enabling jumbo frames made things SO much better cathartik: be careful about jumbo frames over wans.. what's your MTU at now? 9000? sartan: what do wans have to do with it? lots. yes, 9000 sartan: like? well for one, the major NAPs are designed for maximum compatibility ~ aka, 1500 here, http://sd.wareonearth.com/~phil/jumbo.html sartan: you might want to consider waiting until you read a little more before blurting things out like that fuck you seriously fuck you umm, yeah, okay. read the goddamned article. shitbag. don't fucking condescend me like that no, theres no reason for me to cathartik: we blurt things out here, back off loceur: i didnt say anything that i need to "back off" from. he blurted out something about jumbo over wans... which im not sure where that came from... Well i'm telling you read the article.. you can't go into an argument refusing to listen to the other side. if you arbitrarily enable jumbo frames over your entire network you're going to get some really fucked up performance over your longhaul WAN links.. that's both the internat naps, fibre terminations, oc3s, frame relays it goes on and on when was there an argument? im not sure why you keep talking about WANs an argument popped up as soon as you made that incredibly arrogant elitist statement I never said anything about a WAN sartan: incorrect. Well, you did say that you just 'enabled jumbos'. do you fully understand what they do? yes. Do you really understand where and how you should be careful? yup Great! then you can tell me what that page says already, right? yep Perfect. cool now anyway back to something at least remotely relevant to what i was saying