522.04 <abyssichate> there is another fact :(
522.49 <abyssichate> but I need your patience and comprehension for that!
531.31 <abyssichate> I can't record demos.
531.36 <abyssichate> since when I got new laptop
531.39 <abyssichate> I tried everything
531.47 <abyssichate> all the demotickrate settings
531.51 <abyssichate> they just fuck me up bigtime
531.59 -echbot12:#q4pickup- 5Please !add up in10 #q4pickup !!!5 4 more people needed!
533.36 <Ginga|Away> i don't think there's any unfixable demo problems
533.51 <abyssichate> well
533.53 <abyssichate> there is
533.55 <abyssichate> think about ut
534.06 <abyssichate> it's such an old engine and with the newest hardware it's likely to run really crap
534.31 <abyssichate> in fact I gotta run it in 1280*800 with all details at max otherwise my client produces more fps than the server could receive
534.50 <Ginga|Away> there are ways to limit that, just ask around
534.58 -echbot12:#q4pickup- 5Please !add up in10 #q4pickup !!!5 3 more people needed!
535.00 <abyssichate> yes, I did it in fact
535.07 <abyssichate> but I am kind of stuck at the demo part.
536.02 <Ginga|Away> i'm sure you'll find a way
536.07 <abyssichate> why are you so sure ?
536.17 <abyssichate> I've been trying to fix that since two weeks, to get ready for the EC
536.25 <abyssichate> as I never recorded demos after I got this pc.
536.54 <Ginga|Away> and i'm sure there are other people playing UT with similar hardware
537.10 <abyssichate> you are too sure.
Session Close: Mon Nov 21 17:38:04 2005

Session Start: Mon Nov 21 23:50:14 2005
Session Ident: Ginga|Away
1150.29 <abyssichate> I made other tests today and my demos are really broken.
1150.32 <abyssichate> *still
Session Close: Mon Nov 21 23:50:45 2005

Session Start: Tue Nov 22 01:01:42 2005
Session Ident: Ginga|Away
Session Ident: Ginga|Away (~Ginga_Nin@Ginga_Ninja.users.quakenet.org)
101.42 <Ginga|Away> tried other ogl and d3d drivers? :)
127.46 <abyssichate> yes
127.58 <abyssichate> I was using opengl up-to-date dll
128.09 <abyssichate> I even tried d3d
128.34 <abyssichate> I also tried to use trojan's and kenshin's demorec ut.ini settings and nothing improved
Session Close: Tue Nov 22 01:29:31 2005

Session Start: Tue Nov 22 02:04:24 2005
Session Ident: Ginga|Away
204.28 <abyssichate> I've tried again...
205.16 <abyssichate> I can stand the sound of your events (like when you fire) being pumped up if compared to the normal dB but having the fps all borked and looking like you are swimming in the shit isn't playable at all
209.35 <abyssichate> oh!11 and daze have agreed on playing our match sunday at 22CET, so if you were so nice to update the scheduling, it'd be appreciated!
210.08 <abyssichate> 545.32 <abyssichate> well we could start at like 21.45 as soon as griz gets home from his work
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.22 <z^solid> sunday 22
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.27 <z^solid> only option we hav
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.29 <z^solid> e
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.34 <z^solid> its bad for us
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.41 <z^solid> however
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.44 <z^solid> only date available
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.50 <abyssichate> this sunday at 22CET ?
210.08 <abyssichate> 546.59 <z^solid> as in the following days, we'll be short on players
210.08 <abyssichate> 547.00 <z^solid> yes
210.08 <abyssichate> 547.12 <z^solid> just challange me
Session Close: Tue Nov 22 02:21:03 2005

Session Start: Tue Nov 22 02:30:07 2005
Session Ident: Ginga|Away
Session Ident: Ginga|Away (~Ginga_Nin@Ginga_Ninja.users.quakenet.org)
230.07 <Ginga|Away> i'm sure i heard a fix before for the sound problem...
230.10 <Ginga|Away> which might fix the other one too
230.17 <abyssichate> I asked maniac
230.20 <abyssichate> as he said he solved it
230.26 <abyssichate> he decreased the latency from 100 to 60
230.32 <abyssichate> I did it. And it still doesn't work
230.41 <abyssichate> but really, the sound is the minor issue here
230.55 <abyssichate> I just lower the volume a bit so my ears don't get smashed
230.58 <Ginga|Away> did you increase demo tickrate?
231.01 <abyssichate> ofcourse
231.06 <abyssichate> and also the maxclientrate
231.07 <Ginga|Away> and decrease?
231.08 <abyssichate> yes
231.12 <abyssichate> I tried 60
231.13 <abyssichate> 100
231.14 <abyssichate> 200
231.16 <abyssichate> till 400
231.21 <abyssichate> what I get are just bigger demos
231.30 <abyssichate> the feeling of you swimming in mud remaisn
231.50 <Ginga|Away> and your FPS are limited?
231.52 <abyssichate> no
231.59 <Ginga|Away> why not?
232.18 <abyssichate> well it depends on the value of the tickrate
232.46 <abyssichate> higher the demonettickrate is, bigger the demo will be as there are more rendered frames
232.47 <Ginga|Away> are your frames limited when you don't demo?
232.54 <Ginga|Away> i know
232.56 <abyssichate> eh
233.01 <abyssichate> what do you by limited ?
233.06 <abyssichate> they are limited by netspee
233.06 <abyssichate> d
233.12 <Ginga|Away> have a maximum value they get to.
233.22 <abyssichate> well ginga ofcourse they do errrrr .EEEEEEEEEE
233.36 <abyssichate> but it's pretty high in fact even when I am not recording
233.57 <abyssichate> in very small places where I get really loads of fps, the view 'stutters'
234.39 <abyssichate> I've tried to enable/unenable vertical sync and it didn't help either
238.06 <Ginga|Away> tried swapping between OGL and D3D?
238.19 <abyssichate> sure I did
238.39 <abyssichate> even though D3D run ut badly with those drivers I've got on, I just tried for the sake of it
238.57 <abyssichate> just to check if that feeling of playing in mud persisted.
240.55 <abyssichate> http://www.clanbase.com/demolist.php?post=1&wid=5020292
241.15 <abyssichate> when the game allows kind of everyone to record demo without having your gameplay affected, I tend to do it, just like in that match
241.25 <abyssichate> but really, with UT and with this pc, I just can't help it 
242.01 <abyssichate> if I could, I would do it, there would be no reason according to which I wouldn't. We even recorded serverside demos when we had our k-play server in 2003.
244.44 <abyssichate> actually, I was speaking half a truth: quake4 doesn't have any issue when recording demo; although it might have when playing them back due to the lack of a standard set of mods
250.26 <Ginga|Away> i think i'll get you to talk to azazel
250.33 <Ginga|Away> he's usually good at this sort of thing
250.38 <abyssichate> okei
300.07 <abyssichate> I want to get this sorted before daze match or I really can't play with demo on like this
301.00 <Ginga|Away> so do i.
301.08 <abyssichate> nice you rock.
307.40 <abyssichate> in worst case, put a second spectator on me, demorecording with behindview 0 :|