21:26 yep, still works 21:27 brilliant :) 21:27 ok, well maybe that means we can shift to lm2 on a longer timescale :) 21:28 yeah, I was to ask what was so important about getting TLS support in at this point 21:29 not many open servers are using it anyway yet 21:30 you got any idea when you'll be putting up a repo for it? 21:30 btw, i've been doing a lot of work to support Jingle in Farsight, if you're interested.. 21:31 jingle? 21:31 the new A/V protoJEP 21:31 want to figure out a few things regarding licensing before I put LM2 out 21:32 ah 21:32 basically a standardised version of what gtalk is using 21:32 Hallski is it still likely to be LGPL? 21:32 yeah, read some about it on the jdev list but didn't pay much attention :) 21:32 it's most likely to be GPL 21:33 ah, it pretty nice, which is shocker 21:33 hmm, that might prove an issue :/ 21:33 what will the main wins be over LM1? 21:34 (though it might not prove an issue, either) 21:34 but it's not fully decided at this point which is why it's not put out yet (since once it's in LGPL there is no turning back :) 21:34 indeed 21:34 no, it might not, I already said to both Carlos (Yannicks position on framework parts) and Yannick that it's possible that it will be GPL 21:35 it'll be GPL/Commercial that is 21:35 so we should be able to work something out for the 770 21:35 * robtaylor knows Carlos well too ;) 21:35 right 21:35 regarding Lm1 vs. Lm2, basically, it's a much better and more extensible code base 21:36 well, it might not be a win for you, the only component that would use it could be happlily licensed GPL.. 21:36 right 21:36 what do you mean? 21:36 all the rest of the code for that process is lgpl 21:36 you mean for the nokia? 21:36 yep 21:37 ah, that's great then 21:37 :D 21:37 the possibility of it being an issue in the 770 is a reason I haven't made up my mind yet 21:38 ah righty.. 21:38 if it's solved in such a way that when used on the 770 it won't matter if it's GPL or LGPL that's great 21:38 thats the current situation at least 21:38 ok, cool 21:38 the connection managers are all Collabora code, and hence LGPL