[15:57] anyone know why the file transfers in gaim over MSN are slow? [15:59] the FAQ does [16:01] .. [16:01] meh [16:01] elb, any idea when they will fully support peer to peer? [16:02] When someone writes it, feel free to. [16:03] etan, i would if i could... [16:04] it'd be nice to see full msn file transfer support in 2 [16:04] that's what everyone who cares says [16:04] no one who cares about the file transfer speed is both interested and able to help with it [16:04] LSchiere, teach me to code then i;ll do it [16:04] until that changes, it will not happen [16:05] ... well its abit sucky... i mean other clients have it supported! [16:05] So? [16:05] That's really going to help get it implemented faster [16:06] ^o) mmk [16:07] i take it most people arnt bothered because they don't use msn ... or do they? [16:08] It seems that people who write patches for Gaim are not people who use MSN file transfers [16:08] ...and they typically don't use MSN, because it sucks :-) [16:08] very few developers use file transfer [16:08] because developers understand better ways to transfer files [16:09] the people who *do* use file transfer almost universally are not programmers [16:10] elb what other ways are better then? [16:11] I personally use cp to ~/.www [16:11] and pass out a URL [16:12] =-= Mode #gaim -o elb by ChanServ [16:13] yes thats all nice and dandy. but half of my mates dont even know what a webserver is.. even the ones who know what they are etc tend to use file transfer just for small random things like pictures.. [16:13] devs should just use file transfer to send the entire codebase to other devs after making changes [16:13] no need for svn or cvs [16:13] right, I already told you ... only teh dumb people want IM file transfer [16:13] problem solved [16:14] and they aren't programmers [16:14] you're using the word "but", and then agreeing with me [16:14] rizzo? oh yeh lets just replace svn... :S [16:14] PLEASE GOD, YES [16:14] REPLACE SVN [16:14] Davegoodson: the bottom line is that it isn't a high priority for the devs, if a priority at all [16:15] Davegoodson: so your best bet is to find someone to write a patch. perhaps offer up a bounty [16:15] * rizzo suggests moving to mercurial [16:16] why use a monotone copy, when you can just use monotone! [16:16] ... this just all sounds like you can't be bothered at all [16:17] basically [16:17] Davegoodson: The developers don't care so they aren't going to do it unless there is a really good reason, and there isn't one. [16:17] we have a finite amount of time to spend on Gaim [16:17] If someone else wants to do it we will gladly accept a good patch for it.' [16:18] so what you are saying is, you'd rather improve the things that you use yourselves and not the other people that use it. [16:18] right [16:18] because the other people can improve the things they use [16:18] anyway. thank you for you time. it was very interesting to see what you morons had to say [16:18] haha [16:18] I LOVE users like him [16:19] someone save that for posterity [16:19] it ended as I foresaw [16:20] gaims-funniest hasn't been upated in a while. [16:20] impressive lack of cursing this time [16:20] normally "assholes" gets thrown out at least once [16:20] yeah, and he didn't say "gay" even once [16:20] Yeah, he was a rather good mannered idiot about this. [16:21] it boggles my mind how many users believe that "because I want it" is a good reason for a developer to shift effort from something else [16:21] Users seem to have a sense of entitlement about these things. [16:21] it's like they think we just sit around doing nothing, rather than implementing their desires [16:21] and don't react well when told that it isn't going to happen [16:21] and, apparently, sit around doing nothing on their dollar