Jan 25 20:48:41 --> glogo (~chatzilla@71.93.83.147) has joined #blag Jan 25 20:48:46 hi Jan 25 20:49:47 * glogo what has she been doing? Jan 25 20:50:17 * glogo blagged the laptop and loaded all kinds of goodies Jan 25 20:50:24 It was so easy. Jan 25 20:50:55 At this point no more windoze but probly have to reload it again sometime. Jan 25 20:51:03 * glogo doesn't want to tho. Jan 25 20:51:25 So, I am doing a webdev project. Very small but really nasty cross browser issues. Jan 25 20:51:36 Anybody know if I can load netscape under blag? Jan 25 20:52:24 Found a really cool thing. I mean, nobody here is probably going to go for it, unless you are making a website and need it . Jan 25 20:52:42 But this guy in Brazil found a way to load IE for Linux. Jan 25 20:53:09 It was so easy to load and works great. So, that takes care of IE 5, 5.5 and 6. Jan 25 20:53:24 He also found out how to load 7, but I'm saving that for another day. Jan 25 20:53:55 So, what do I have? Moz, FF, IE x 3, Opera... Jan 25 20:54:09 Then I loaded KDE so I could look at everything in Konqueror. Jan 25 20:54:31 I heard that the Mac browser Safari is based on the Konqueror engine. Jan 25 20:55:00 So, that is as much as I could do today. but I wanted to try to load Netscape Jan 25 20:55:43 So, if anyone knows that it is definitely (not) possible, would appreciate to hear about it Jan 25 20:56:19 I found one website with a download, but it only mentions redhat, no fedora. Do you suppose that is a generic reference? (RH) Jan 25 20:56:50 Well, here I am typing away. guess I could have just posted to forum. Jan 25 20:56:54 Which I might do. Jan 25 20:57:00 But, anyway, Hello. Jan 25 20:57:06 * glogo is in Reno still. Jan 25 20:57:14 netscape3 is in the repo, i believe Jan 25 20:57:18 that's ancient stuff though. Jan 25 20:57:27 good to "see" you, btw Jan 25 20:57:27 wow, hi jebba Jan 25 20:57:34 same, same to you Jan 25 20:57:39 safari is based on konqueror bits Jan 25 20:57:49 khtml Jan 25 20:57:49 yeah, that's what I gather Jan 25 20:57:53 k? Jan 25 20:58:08 kde=khtml Jan 25 20:58:12 konqueror bits Jan 25 20:58:30 okay. Well, ah so... Jan 25 20:58:50 Well, I found this site and downloaded this tar.gz Jan 25 20:59:11 ah, a netscape.tar.gz is probably some ancient stuff... Jan 25 20:59:15 netscape-i686-pc-linux-gnu-sea.tar.gz Jan 25 20:59:24 i wouldn't touch it ;) Jan 25 20:59:29 righto Jan 25 20:59:38 apt-get install netscape3 Jan 25 20:59:47 ah, okay, gotcha Jan 25 20:59:52 that's all you need if you want it. but again, it's so ancient, no one is using it Jan 25 21:00:19 well, that's the thing. do you suppose there is a way to load a newer one? Jan 25 21:00:37 * glogo does not want to have to boot windos again Jan 25 21:00:39 i didn't know there was a newer one Jan 25 21:00:48 it's what firefox is, basically. Jan 25 21:00:52 oh, sorry, mixed up terms Jan 25 21:00:55 or seamonkey (what was mozilla) Jan 25 21:00:58 I actually mean the navigator Jan 25 21:01:20 ya, the latest iteration of navigator is seamonkey Jan 25 21:01:32 well, nav 7 under windows sure as heck does not render the page the same as any of the above Jan 25 21:01:38 In my experience Jan 25 21:01:39 nav 7? Jan 25 21:01:40 hmm. Jan 25 21:01:42 um Jan 25 21:01:51 I don't know. Maybe mixed up here. Jan 25 21:02:01 too much late night work on this darned project Jan 25 21:02:31 i'd just focus on MSIE and firefox/seamonkey and khtml (konq safari) and you basically have it covered. Jan 25 21:03:16 ah, i guess there still is a netscape release that's not free. Odd. Jan 25 21:03:27 yeah, well, there were some quirks in nav. but my system bombed finally and I just decided to get rid of the Jan 25 21:03:33 windows finally Jan 25 21:03:49 Um, I don't know, I guess it came with my laptop Jan 25 21:04:00 I never bothered about it too much. Jan 25 21:04:04 well its definitely fallen into some serious obscurity. AOL may still be using it, if anyone actually. Jan 25 21:04:24 Well, I think I am going to just try to do as you say and not worry too much about it. Jan 25 21:05:01 * glogo spent hours trying to fix quirks of nav lately Jan 25 21:05:17 all in the great scheme of things a learning experience Jan 25 21:05:24 Btw, I really do love this distro. Jan 25 21:05:32 It just keeps getting better and easier to work with. Jan 25 21:05:32 thx :) Jan 25 21:05:40 THANKS to you! Jan 25 21:05:58 np.... Jan 25 21:06:24 You're just saying that. You spend hours and hours and weeks etc. Jan 25 21:06:52 Anyway. Okay. Seamonkey it is. Um, if i want to use the Konqueror, do I have to end the session? Jan 25 21:07:29 Guess it is not quite as bad as rebooting Jan 25 21:08:00 you can just `apt-get install konqueror` and then run it. Jan 25 21:08:16 it'll take awhile to launch and huge a big chunk of RAM though since it will load all the KDE libraries too Jan 25 21:08:28 um. I did that. I mean I apt-getted kdebase etc. Jan 25 21:08:28 it'll have to install a whole bunch of other KDE dependencies too Jan 25 21:08:36 um, oh no, I did it in synaptic Jan 25 21:08:43 just apt-get konqueror will get what you need. Jan 25 21:08:50 synaptic=apt-get basically Jan 25 21:08:59 ah, okay, then I can unistall kdebase? Jan 25 21:09:05 No, I think it needs all that stuff Jan 25 21:09:09 no, you need kdebase for konqueror Jan 25 21:09:15 well, i'd assume Jan 25 21:09:26 Well, in gnome, when you try to open kde from the apps menu, nothing happens Jan 25 21:09:31 if you install konqueror, just type konqueror. Jan 25 21:09:40 so, I guess over the command line, yeah Jan 25 21:10:13 kool Jan 25 21:10:13 you don't "open kde" you just run konqueror. It should appear in the menu too, but i'm not certain. Jan 25 21:10:14 it works. Jan 25 21:10:32 yeah, it's in the ui, but it doesnt open anything. Jan 25 21:10:41 but that's okay. long as it works somehow. Jan 25 21:10:45 ok Jan 25 21:11:44 great Jan 25 21:12:02 That pretty much covers all the bases Jan 25 21:12:35 Btw, anyone know why in the chatzilla and in FF you type along and suddenly the window is not active? Jan 25 21:12:44 Or the typing jumps to another position? Jan 25 21:12:53 the cursor I mean. Jan 25 21:13:04 Well, maybe that's a FF issue. Jan 25 21:13:11 1 sec Jan 25 21:13:17 But one thing is strange. It's this deer park. Jan 25 21:13:35 * glogo tried to load a different theme, but it won't load. Jan 25 21:15:03 you working on a laptop with a touchpad? that can cause the cursor to jump... Jan 25 21:15:13 yeah, Jan 25 21:15:25 this is probably when you brush up against it? Jan 25 21:15:37 it's kind of a pain Jan 25 21:16:20 ya, when you brush the trackpad, it moves the mouse.... Jan 25 21:16:26 I would even love to be able to deactivate it briefly. Jan 25 21:16:52 * glogo has an external mouse. never use the touch pad Jan 25 21:17:18 Actually, I almost never use it. I find it to constricting. Jan 25 21:17:43 ya, you can disable it. I don't know how offhand, actually. Sounds like a stevo32 question ;) Jan 25 21:17:54 Do you think I could? Great! Jan 25 21:18:07 It's really drain. Just bugs me. Jan 25 21:18:12 ya, you certainly can Jan 25 21:18:18 kool Jan 25 21:18:36 But that is actually the least of my worries. Jan 25 21:18:49 I have as yet found a way to get this broadcom wifi working. Jan 25 21:19:05 * glogo tried ndiswrapper and fxcutter-butter-whatter. Jan 25 21:19:11 none of it worked. Jan 25 21:19:14 skip ndiswrapper Jan 25 21:19:27 yeah, that's what I figured Jan 25 21:19:54 the bwcutter or whatever it is should work though, assuming you have the "right" card Jan 25 21:20:11 and put the firmware in the right place /MAKE SURE YOUR CARD IS ON/ and voila Jan 25 21:20:42 lots of times laptops have a switch to turn off wifi, people spend all day working on wifi, just to found out the switch was turned off! Jan 25 21:20:54 don't complicate things with ndiswrapper as it can be done without it Jan 25 21:20:59 lol Jan 25 21:21:07 yeah, I did that once too. Jan 25 21:21:11 (well, assuming you have a compatible broadcom, but i think they "all" are now) Jan 25 21:21:14 But, that was in windows. Jan 25 21:21:37 Well, You know. I don't know. I downloaded the latest driver from hip Jan 25 21:21:38 hp Jan 25 21:22:00 and on the web there are plenty who have this one working in ix Jan 25 21:22:04 4318 Jan 25 21:22:16 So, eventually, it should work. Jan 25 21:22:35 Nothing happens when i try to turn on the hardware, tho. Jan 25 21:22:56 Once I got it that far that the little blue light came on, but it still did not want to work. Jan 25 21:23:06 That was the last time I loaded Jan 25 21:23:13 * glogo has reblagged since. Jan 25 21:23:14 well, if you have it now i could help you. Jan 25 21:23:25 do you have time? Jan 25 21:23:27 re fwcutter the thing, if you want those bits... Jan 25 21:23:29 that would be great Jan 25 21:23:35 well, we could give it a shot now. Jan 25 21:23:39 should be quick actually ;) Jan 25 21:23:50 well, listen. I have this exe file with the driver. Jan 25 21:23:58 let me see. It is here somewhere. Jan 25 21:24:09 I don't know which one it is, tho.. darn Jan 25 21:24:28 oh rats. I'll just go to the hp site and get the latest one. Jan 25 21:24:36 read this file: Jan 25 21:24:38 /usr/share/doc/bcm43xx-fwcutter-005/README.Fedora Jan 25 21:24:39 and do that Jan 25 21:25:06 okay Jan 25 21:25:53 (note this ain't free software, yada yada) Jan 25 21:26:39 k Jan 25 21:30:07 no such file Jan 25 21:30:22 okay, looking it up. Jan 25 21:30:47 part of this package bcm43xx-fwcutter Jan 25 21:31:20 oh, can I just apt-get that? Jan 25 21:31:50 * glogo searching Jan 25 21:32:45 it seems I have it installed already, but I don't see the doc on it. Jan 25 21:34:13 it was version 4.... Jan 25 21:34:16 will that work too? Jan 25 21:34:37 * glogo found the doc. Jan 25 21:35:46 btw jebba, I did all sorts of stuff with that ndiswrapper and modprobe and all yesterday. Do I have to clear out any of these directories first? Jan 25 21:36:25 well, you'll want to remove it from /etc/modprobe.conf if it's htere. Jan 25 21:36:34 okay... Jan 25 21:36:36 let me see. Jan 25 21:36:38 not sure what version 4 you're talking about. Is this blag 50k or 60k? Jan 25 21:36:49 bcm etc. 004... Jan 25 21:36:56 not 005 Jan 25 21:36:56 you could also `/sbin/lsmod` and see if any ndiswrapper stuff is in there Jan 25 21:37:04 k Jan 25 21:37:11 50k or 60k? Jan 25 21:37:20 50k Jan 25 21:37:38 should be fine Jan 25 21:37:49 k , what am I looking for in lsmod? Jan 25 21:38:20 bcm43xx is there. Jan 25 21:39:04 it's in modprobe.conf too. Jan 25 21:39:40 you got anything in /lib/firmware? Jan 25 21:40:00 you're looking to make sure no ndiswrapper stuff is there and it sounds like it's not Jan 25 21:40:06 um. I was just going to cut that line out of modprobe.conf. Can I do that? Jan 25 21:40:32 cut what line out? Jan 25 21:40:48 alias eth1 bcm43xx etc Jan 25 21:41:00 no... Jan 25 21:41:03 that's the one you want... Jan 25 21:41:17 bcm43xx is your wireless card driver Jan 25 21:41:18 okay. Jan 25 21:41:22 k Jan 25 21:41:25 you got anything in /lib/firmware? Jan 25 21:41:33 1 sec Jan 25 21:41:54 no nothing Jan 25 21:42:36 ok, then do the fwcutter thing as listed in the READMEs Jan 25 21:43:05 um, do you think I can use just any bcmwl5? or should I get the last one.? Jan 25 21:43:19 uh, not sure. Jan 25 21:43:25 check the READMEs.... Jan 25 21:43:35 k Jan 25 21:45:56 it says it should not matter that much which one I use... Jan 25 21:46:03 ok Jan 25 21:46:24 * glogo looking for the disc with the old driver on it. Jan 25 21:51:26 okay, extracted to lib/firmware... Jan 25 21:52:39 ok. Jan 25 21:52:47 try: Jan 25 21:52:53 (instead of rebooting): Jan 25 21:52:58 /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx Jan 25 21:53:02 k Jan 25 21:53:05 then: Jan 25 21:53:07 as root? Jan 25 21:53:09 ya Jan 25 21:53:13 then: Jan 25 21:53:19 /sbin/modprobe bcm43xx Jan 25 21:53:29 then: iwconfig eth1 Jan 25 21:53:36 k Jan 25 21:53:39 it went Jan 25 21:53:44 one moment Jan 25 21:53:53 <-- ewl has quit (Quit: I've got to go...) Jan 25 21:54:44 Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 20 Jan 25 21:54:45 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 19. Jan 25 21:55:04 I got that the last time I went through this, too... Jan 25 21:55:05 sadly. Jan 25 21:55:20 Which is not to say all hope is lost. Jan 25 21:55:36 that doesn't matter at all actually. Jan 25 21:55:42 great. Jan 25 21:55:47 so? Jan 25 21:55:51 iwconfig eth1 ? Jan 25 21:55:53 No little blue light. Jan 25 21:56:07 ja, that is what I just did. Jan 25 21:56:13 and nothingin? Jan 25 21:56:18 no light. Jan 25 21:56:26 well, i meant from iwconfig eth1 Jan 25 21:56:33 * glogo punches the button again Jan 25 21:56:44 do what i say, not what you think ;) Jan 25 21:56:44 yeah, It told me that it might be broken. Jan 25 21:56:49 that's it? Jan 25 21:56:53 um Jan 25 21:56:55 okay, Jan 25 21:57:04 * glogo is willing to do anything you say... Jan 25 21:57:17 well, i meant from iwconfig eth1 Jan 25 21:57:37 should I flood? Jan 25 21:57:44 Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 20 Jan 25 21:57:45 of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 19. Jan 25 21:57:46 but without punching buttons cuz you may have turned it off. The light may not come on if it's not associated (but the driver could be loaded)) Jan 25 21:57:47 Some things may be broken... Jan 25 21:57:48 eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"" Nickname:"localhost.localdomain" Jan 25 21:57:50 Mode:Managed Access Point: Invalid Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Jan 25 21:57:51 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Jan 25 21:57:53 Encryption key:off Jan 25 21:57:55 Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Jan 25 21:57:56 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Jan 25 21:57:58 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Jan 25 21:57:59 k Jan 25 21:58:10 ok. looks ok. Jan 25 21:58:16 so, what's the ESSID of your network? Jan 25 21:58:23 ESSID? Jan 25 21:58:28 got me... Jan 25 21:58:37 the "network name" or sometihng. Well, what's the wireless device you connect to? Jan 25 21:58:43 like "linksys" or something. Jan 25 21:58:46 um. uncinus... or somethign Jan 25 21:59:01 do iwlist eth1 scan Jan 25 21:59:03 pretty sure it's uncinus Jan 25 21:59:05 uncinus? huh? that the ESSID or the name of the hardware or what? Jan 25 21:59:10 thanks weyasey_Away Jan 25 21:59:12 run this: Jan 25 21:59:16 /sbin/iwlist eth1 scan Jan 25 21:59:17 no, the guy who set it up is polish Jan 25 21:59:21 k Jan 25 21:59:48 eth1 Interface doesn't support scanning : No such device Jan 25 22:00:14 ok. you may have some other cruft going. Run this: Jan 25 22:00:19 /sbin/ifdown eth1 Jan 25 22:00:23 /sbin/ifup eth1 Jan 25 22:00:24 k Jan 25 22:00:46 (also, is this the computer you're on right now or another one? Cuz we may lose you if it's this one!) Jan 25 22:01:17 Determining IP information for eth1... failed; no link present. Check cable? Jan 25 22:01:26 no, the router is on another machine. Jan 25 22:01:43 this is the same message I have gotten a hundred or so times before. Jan 25 22:01:44 the router? I mean which machine has the wifi card? Jan 25 22:01:54 wifi? here on the laptop? Jan 25 22:02:20 the wireless router is this airforce one thing on a pc in the other room Jan 25 22:02:22 ok. i think i get you now. Jan 25 22:02:47 Your eth1 isn't set up as wireless. Edit this file: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:02:52 and make sure there is a line: Jan 25 22:02:54 TYPE=Wireless Jan 25 22:03:25 If it says "TYPE=Ethernet" change that to "Wireless" (there are GUI ways to do this, but i don't use them so i don't know them, sorry) Jan 25 22:04:05 file does not exist... Jan 25 22:04:14 should I copy eth0 and make a new one? Jan 25 22:04:47 It should exist tho. or maybe not. I was calling the alias wlan0 last time I tried this... Jan 25 22:05:20 wait. Jan 25 22:05:23 ah, I am editing the other file... wlan0 Jan 25 22:05:27 did you: Jan 25 22:05:34 /sbin/ifup eth1 ? Jan 25 22:05:48 It already says type wireless tho. Jan 25 22:06:01 I did that in the network gui yesterday. Jan 25 22:06:04 please don't get ahead of me. Jan 25 22:06:11 k Jan 25 22:06:17 i'm gonna be mean: don't think, do what i say Jan 25 22:06:21 yes, I did that already. Jan 25 22:06:24 this is getting very confusing for me to follow Jan 25 22:06:33 that is when it said that it could not find the 'cable'. Jan 25 22:06:50 okay Jan 25 22:07:04 I did ifdown then ifup. Jan 25 22:07:22 like you said, then it returned that there is no such thing... hang on. Jan 25 22:07:23 and it said "no cable" basically. If it said that, there has to be a: Jan 25 22:07:31 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:07:40 right, that is what it is saying for the last month Jan 25 22:07:50 ah, but there isn't Jan 25 22:07:56 ok Jan 25 22:07:58 then: Jan 25 22:08:07 mv /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wifi0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:08:14 then gimme the output of: Jan 25 22:08:18 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:08:29 um if I do that will I lose eth0? Jan 25 22:08:36 no Jan 25 22:08:37 cuz we're chatting on eth0 right now. Jan 25 22:08:46 you're just touching wifi0 Jan 25 22:08:50 oh, doees mv just copy then? Jan 25 22:08:54 this isn't starting/stopping anything Jan 25 22:09:02 mv "moves" (renames) Jan 25 22:09:11 no. I think eth0 is the hard cable. Jan 25 22:09:24 well, I didn't say eth0 anywhere above. Jan 25 22:09:29 i said wifi0 and eth1 Jan 25 22:09:33 sorry jebba, Jan 25 22:09:38 this is really confusing to me... Jan 25 22:09:44 that's fine Jan 25 22:09:44 * glogo takes a deep breath. Jan 25 22:09:50 just do what i say and dont' think about it ;) Jan 25 22:09:56 okay. Jan 25 22:10:51 Recap (after the discussion...): Jan 25 22:10:55 mv /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wifi0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:10:58 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:11:09 it can't find the file. hang on Jan 25 22:11:29 my bad: correctoin: Jan 25 22:11:34 mv /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:11:53 (if it can't find the file or you get an error, just report the error or whatever, don't try to "fix" it ) Jan 25 22:12:47 it seems to have worked Jan 25 22:12:52 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:13:01 and paste here please (the output of `cat....` Jan 25 22:13:12 k Jan 25 22:13:29 ah, here in chat client... wait Jan 25 22:13:34 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 Jan 25 22:13:44 no, not like that. um Jan 25 22:14:31 Please read /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt Jan 25 22:14:32 # for the documentation of these parameters. Jan 25 22:14:32 you can highlight it with the mouse then "center click" in xchat's input line to paste it here. Jan 25 22:14:34 ONBOOT=no Jan 25 22:14:35 USERCTL=no Jan 25 22:14:37 IPV6INIT=no Jan 25 22:14:38 PEERDNS=yes Jan 25 22:14:40 TYPE=Wireless Jan 25 22:14:41 DEVICE=eth1 Jan 25 22:14:43 HWADDR=00:14:a5:bd:9d:8f Jan 25 22:14:45 BOOTPROTO=dhcp Jan 25 22:14:46 NETMASK= Jan 25 22:14:48 DHCP_HOSTNAME= Jan 25 22:14:49 IPADDR= Jan 25 22:14:51 DOMAIN= Jan 25 22:14:52 ESSID=Auto Jan 25 22:14:54 CHANNEL=1 Jan 25 22:14:55 MODE=Managed Jan 25 22:14:57 RATE=Auto Jan 25 22:14:58 k Jan 25 22:15:14 ok, the CHANNEL=1 thing is the only thing that ain't perfect. Jan 25 22:15:28 k Jan 25 22:15:59 anyway, for kicks do this. And if you lose 'net connectivity, run these commands to come back here (these are the "recovery commands" you can note. A reboot will do the same): Jan 25 22:16:03 /sbin/ifdown eth1 Jan 25 22:16:08 /sbin/ifdown eth0 Jan 25 22:16:12 /sbin/ifup eth0 Jan 25 22:16:39 Those three lines will shut down wifi, and bring up ethernet if you ever get dropped, ok? Jan 25 22:16:58 okay. um. I think this will lose my connection but what the hay.... Jan 25 22:17:13 If you run the above you won't lose the connection, it will bring it back. Jan 25 22:17:20 ah, Jan 25 22:17:21 okay. Jan 25 22:17:34 These commands may drop your connection depending on how things are set up. But lets give it a try to see where you're at: Jan 25 22:17:40 /sbin/ifdown eth1 Jan 25 22:17:43 /sbin/ifup eth1 Jan 25 22:17:51 k Jan 25 22:18:20 eth1 failed, no link etc. Jan 25 22:18:39 hmm, with Type=Wireless. Odd. Jan 25 22:18:42 * glogo doing eth0? Jan 25 22:18:47 no, don't touch eth0 Jan 25 22:18:52 k Jan 25 22:18:54 (unless you lose us here) Jan 25 22:18:58 k Jan 25 22:19:00 (then you do those 3 lines above) Jan 25 22:19:06 k Jan 25 22:19:35 have you rebooted this thing since you were doing ndiswrapper stuff? Jan 25 22:19:43 ja Jan 25 22:19:49 coupla times Jan 25 22:19:57 and there's no ndiswapper stuff in /etc/modprobe.conf? Jan 25 22:19:59 I think. Could try it again tho. Jan 25 22:20:05 check the HWADDR Jan 25 22:20:10 moment. Jan 25 22:20:44 alias eth0 8139too Jan 25 22:20:45 alias eth1 bcm43xx Jan 25 22:20:47 alias snd-card-0 snd-atiixp Jan 25 22:20:48 options snd-card-0 index=0 Jan 25 22:20:50 options snd-atiixp index=0 Jan 25 22:20:51 remove snd-atiixp { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sb$ Jan 25 22:21:58 glogo: /sbin/ifconfig eth1 Jan 25 22:22:28 eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:A5:BD:9D:8F Jan 25 22:22:30 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Jan 25 22:22:31 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 Jan 25 22:22:33 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Jan 25 22:22:34 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 Jan 25 22:22:36 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Jan 25 22:22:37 Interrupt:225 Base address:0x4000 Jan 25 22:23:10 weyasey_Away, HWADDR matches Jan 25 22:23:21 k Jan 25 22:23:25 glogo, and you have files in /lib/firmware now, correct ? Jan 25 22:23:33 correct Jan 25 22:23:41 a whole bunch of them. Jan 25 22:23:48 lsmod Jan 25 22:24:21 lsmod | grep bcw Jan 25 22:24:23 bcm43xx 420801 0 Jan 25 22:24:57 /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx Jan 25 22:25:11 then gimme the output of: `dmesg | tail -3` Jan 25 22:25:44 bcm43xx: Microcode rev 0x13f, pl 0x66 (2005-10-15 22:46:19) Jan 25 22:25:46 bcm43xx: Firmware: no support for microcode rev > 0x128 Jan 25 22:25:47