Dear Chirantha, as much as I do love you, I just can not agree. Yes, PHP-GTK can be used to make Windows PHP-powered applications, but let me explain: It is not an powerful way to make an application, and PHP was never, ever meant for something like that. PHP is meant for dynamic web pages. There is *absolutely no* reason to use PHP, when you can use much more powerful languages (for desktop applications) to make what you need to. Not to mention, that GTK is real ugly on Windows. Don't try to steer off the argument you started. This is my final stance, and you can ask whoever the hell you want to if I'm "correct". Now excuse me, I have a bed to go to. GML & GM aren't even nearly the same as PHP, so they can't be directly compared. -- tuntis