At the very list I agree a common mailing list would be a good idea. The license issue is possibly somewhat difficult, most of the Beryl developers would be fine with MIT but I know of at least two who would have problems, notably Quinn, I think Quinn would be willing to flex. I think core could be made even smaller in the future (functions such as moveWindowToViewportPosition are a great example, this could be in some sort of library) and this would be even less of an issue. In general I think Beryl would be willing to compromise on this point. I definitely understand your reservations with core under a different name (If it were my project I would likely have the same). However I think a new name might be somewhat important, a merge under the Compiz name would alienate large portions of the Beryl community, and potentially cause a lot of issues. We obviously both know that the name is not that 'important' to the success of a project, but realistically a large portion of the Beryl community ( and a larger portion of the Beryl development community ) would more or less insist on a new name and it would be viewed as a great compromise. I think it is the difference between 'Beryl gives up' (Very much not the case) and 'Beryl and Compiz realize they can accomplish much more working together' (This would hopefully be the case). I do not think many people would be interested in all plugin development to a new project with a new name, and really I think the difficulty and wasted resources in maintaining two separate projects such as that would be more difficult than it is worth. At this point (and I ask because of how I began my first email), would you mind if I brought this up and shared our exchange with a few other members of the Beryl community (I of course would have no objection if you were to do likewise). I think making this very widespread (Compiz/beryl mailing list) might be a bad idea right now, until a bit more discussion has taken place.