Conversation with #alsa on Sun 25 Feb 2007 01:39:09 PM CST:
(01:39:09 PM) #alsa: The topic for #alsa is: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture || Unprofessional, unofficial support, see WIKI at http://alsa.opensrc.org/
(01:39:59 PM) GMWeezel: For some reason, I can only have one sound application going at once. It has been this way since day one and I haven't modified any of the configuration files and I have installed Linux three times to try to fix it.
(01:42:42 PM) shapermechanist: dmix
(01:44:29 PM) GMWeezel: I'm sorry but one word doesn't really help me that much. I'm new to Linux.
(01:46:47 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, do u card support hardware mixing
(01:47:24 PM) GMWeezel: I have no clue; I'm using the one that came in the system but I never had any problems on Windows. I'll google to see if I can find out.
(01:47:51 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, as root lspci |grep audio
(01:48:03 PM) GMWeezel: alright
(01:48:13 PM) GMWeezel: Nothing came up.
(01:48:22 PM) shapermechanist: what is your soundcard
(01:48:28 PM) GMWeezel: Realtek ALC861
(01:48:52 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linusSoundALSA.html the sharing section and the OSS section
(01:49:08 PM) GMWeezel: 404 Error.
(01:50:45 PM) Blissex: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
(01:55:06 PM) GMWeezel: I'm rather lost.
(01:58:18 PM) GMWeezel: Since "lspci |grep audio" did not return anything, does that mean my card doesn't support hardware mixing?
(01:59:34 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: 
(01:59:46 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: that means you don't have a soundcard./
(02:00:06 PM) shapermechanist: or u have but under usb devices
(02:00:31 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: if it is a USB soundcard then there are special rules.
(02:00:56 PM) GMWeezel: It's not a USB sound card; I thought it was integrated and on the box it stated "ALC861"
(02:01:01 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: because with recent ALSA releases sw sharing is enabled by default, but only for non-USB spundcards.
(02:01:44 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: what does 'lspci | grep 681' say?
(02:01:55 PM) GMWeezel: sudo?
(02:02:00 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: yes...
(02:02:10 PM) GMWeezel: Nothing.
(02:02:34 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: put the output of 'sudo lspci' on pastebin.ca
(02:03:17 PM) GMWeezel: It's empty.
(02:03:28 PM) GMWeezel: Wait one sec.
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a33 (rev 01)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a3f
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:11.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc ATI 437A Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:12.0 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc ATI 4379 Serial ATA Controller (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 81)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller ATI (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:14.2 0403: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge (rev 80)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5a61
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:02:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
(02:03:37 PM) GMWeezel: 0000:02:04.0 Communication controller: Conexant: Unknown device 2f40
(02:03:52 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, on paste stie
(02:03:58 PM) shapermechanist: but u miss that line
(02:04:29 PM) GMWeezel: How do I send it to pastebin.ca? I tried sudo lspci >> pastebin.ca
(02:04:43 PM) shapermechanist: omg
(02:04:44 PM) shapermechanist: :)
(02:05:02 PM) GMWeezel: We all start out new at one point...
(02:05:18 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, sudo lspci > paste.txt , and then open pastebin.ca through browser
(02:05:21 PM) shapermechanist: and upload it there
(02:05:58 PM) GMWeezel: Ah; that's what you meant. I thought the paste on Linux might have been controlled by a text file or something.
(02:06:24 PM) GMWeezel: http://pastebin.ca/371986
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(02:07:26 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: buy a sound card...
(02:07:38 PM) GMWeezel: So I don't have one?
(02:08:11 PM) GMWeezel: Or all you just saying mine sucks?
(02:08:14 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: perhaps it is the one that comes up as "unknown device", but usually the easiest way to solve ALSA problems is to buy a supported sound card.
(02:08:15 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, if it integrated on motherboard it can appear as usb device
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(02:08:28 PM) Blissex: GMWeezel: so try 'lsusb'
(02:09:00 PM) GMWeezel: http://pastebin.ca/371991
(02:10:46 PM) shapermechanist: goh ..
(02:10:46 PM) shapermechanist: :)
(02:11:51 PM) GMWeezel: Goh?
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(02:13:50 PM) GMWeezel: I'm confused though-- when I play a game on Windows, it recognizes my sound card and gives me extra options for HD audio and EAX.
(02:14:05 PM) shapermechanist: hm
(02:14:16 PM) shapermechanist: it seems like hda intel device
(02:15:35 PM) GMWeezel: ?
(02:17:57 PM) GMWeezel: I just thought about something; maybe the motherboard has an on-board HD audio controller.
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(02:21:19 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: You there?
(02:21:41 PM) shapermechanist: yeah
(02:21:48 PM) shapermechanist: still looking in google
(02:21:54 PM) GMWeezel: Ah okay; thanks.
(02:22:07 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, cat /proc/asound/modules
(02:22:26 PM) GMWeezel: You were right on key; hda intel
(02:22:34 PM) GMWeezel: "0 snd_hda_intel"
(02:23:31 PM) shapermechanist: hm
(02:23:54 PM) shapermechanist: no hardware mixing
(02:26:13 PM) mahound: i've got a problem
(02:26:24 PM) mahound: when i plug my headphones into the soundboard, sound comes from both the headphones and the speakers
(02:26:35 PM) mahound: i have an option to switch the headphones on and off, but it plays on the speakers in both modes
(02:26:43 PM) mahound: it's not a hardware proble,
(02:26:51 PM) mahound: since it works under windows
(02:26:56 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, cat /proc/asound/version
(02:27:12 PM) GMWeezel: mahound:You could buy new speakers with a headphone jack or turn off speakers when headphones are in.
(02:27:24 PM) mahound: GMWeezel, it's a laptop
(02:27:28 PM) GMWeezel: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
(02:27:33 PM) mahound: i can't turn off the speakers :)
(02:27:40 PM) mahound: nor change them
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(02:28:50 PM) mahound: any clue?
(02:28:51 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, dmix must be enabled by default, but i suggest you to upgrade alsa and read http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix , one last test open 2 consoles and start speaker-test on the both on the same time
(02:29:13 PM) GMWeezel: mahound: Not a one; I remember having that problem with an old lap top but can't recall how I got around it.
(02:29:24 PM) mahound: should i provide some info?
(02:29:49 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: I have the ALSA packages installed.
(02:30:11 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, what distro ?
(02:30:21 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: Dapper Drake (Ubuntu)
(02:30:30 PM) shapermechanist: pain in the ass
(02:31:40 PM) mahound: the sound board is an Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FR (ICH6 Family)
(02:32:26 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: Do I need to test it with a WAV? I don't have any lying around at the moment.
(02:32:35 PM) crimsun: mahound: pastebin ``lspci -vvn''
(02:32:56 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, just type speaker-test on 2 different consoles
(02:33:08 PM) shapermechanist: u don't need wav, alsa comes with wavs
(02:33:41 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: you need to use current hg alsa-driver for hda-intel
(02:33:50 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: Done;
(02:34:17 PM) GMWeezel: One stops at this line though: Using 16 octaves of pink noise
(02:34:22 PM) GMWeezel: And does nothing more.
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(02:35:16 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: Will I need to google it or is it in the debian repositories?
(02:35:19 PM) shapermechanist: no error msg
(02:35:23 PM) shapermechanist: ?
(02:35:44 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: Nope; one plays sound the other stops mid execution at the pink noise line.
(02:35:49 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: no distro that I know of tracks hg
(02:35:50 PM) mahound: crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/372038
(02:36:34 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, hm, it's a good idea to update alsa
(02:37:15 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: How? The repositories say it's up to date.
(02:37:34 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: no, you must compile it yourself
(02:37:40 PM) GMWeezel: Gah
(02:37:46 PM) GMWeezel: I hope it doesn't take all day.
(02:38:10 PM) crimsun: mahound: lspci -vvn . That 'n' is important.
(02:38:12 PM) GMWeezel: Should I use the stable or dev release?
(02:38:18 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: hg.
(02:38:33 PM) crimsun: i.e., not a tarball but the 'tip' of hg
(02:38:38 PM) shapermechanist: HG - the last dev version
(02:38:45 PM) shapermechanist: http://www.alsa-project.org/download.php
(02:38:47 PM) shapermechanist: look there
(02:39:21 PM) shapermechanist: alsa build is quick
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(02:39:59 PM) mahound: crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/372052 (sorry)
(02:40:01 PM) GMWeezel: I'm not sure which one to use; I'm in the HG section.
(02:40:42 PM) crimsun: you need to pull down alsa-kernel and alsa-driver
(02:41:29 PM) GMWeezel: How do I do I that? I have no clue how to use CVS.
(02:42:08 PM) crimsun: it's not cvs; it's hg. Read the directions.
(02:42:13 PM) shapermechanist: apt-get install mercurial
(02:42:23 PM) crimsun: They're staring you right in the face at the bottom of http://www.alsa-project.org/download.php
(02:42:28 PM) GMWeezel: Ah; Hg Mercury hadn't noticed that.
(02:43:02 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: I got that far and clicked the link; but from there there were about 10 other things.
(02:43:10 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: I did not no which so I asked...
(02:43:31 PM) GMWeezel: *know
(02:44:20 PM) GMWeezel: I have installed mercurial.
(02:44:55 PM) shapermechanist: hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-driver
(02:45:39 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: Thanks.
(02:45:44 PM) crimsun: mahound: Is this an LG laptop?
(02:45:54 PM) mahound: crimsun, bingo
(02:45:58 PM) mahound: lw40
(02:46:12 PM) crimsun: mahound: are you using _current_ hg alsa-driver?
(02:46:18 PM) mahound: nope
(02:46:25 PM) crimsun: at least 1.0.14rc2?
(02:47:00 PM) shapermechanist: topic must says "for hda intell use HG"
(02:47:08 PM) mahound: i'm usinf 1.0.14rc2 :|
(02:47:09 PM) mahound: *using
(02:47:21 PM) mahound: *using
(02:47:32 PM) crimsun: mahound: ok, give me a sec to pull up the info
(02:47:41 PM) mahound: sure
(02:49:10 PM) crimsun: mahound: please unload all alsa modules, then reload snd-hda-intel with model=lg-lw
(02:49:10 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist:I ran the command you said then hg clone http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-kernel. What now?
(02:49:29 PM) mahound: crimsun, ok, a moment please...
(02:49:56 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, u must build it
(02:50:26 PM) GMWeezel: How do I build from Mercurial? I have no clue were the files were saved to.
(02:51:01 PM) shapermechanist: in the dir u start the command
(02:51:10 PM) shapermechanist: i think
(02:51:20 PM) GMWeezel: my home directory might be cluttered now.
(02:51:20 PM) shapermechanist: never use mercurial
(02:51:33 PM) GMWeezel: lol; found them.
(02:51:59 PM) mahound: "Module snd_hda_intel is in use"
(02:52:35 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: No alsa-kernel is found.
(02:52:35 PM) GMWeezel: Please specify the correct location via ALSAKERNELDIR environment variable.
(02:53:14 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, what command give u that
(02:53:18 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: How do I set environment variables? Something like $ALSAKERNELDIR = "folder"
(02:53:25 PM) GMWeezel: sudo ./hgcompile
(02:53:51 PM) mahound: how do i unload this?
(02:53:52 PM) shapermechanist: dunno
(02:53:55 PM) shapermechanist: i never use 
(02:53:55 PM) shapermechanist: HG
(02:53:59 PM) shapermechanist: can't help
(02:54:08 PM) GMWeezel: How did you compile it then?
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(02:54:38 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: Problem with hg: "No alsa-kernel is found."
(02:55:09 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: did you checkout alsa-kernel, too?
(02:55:27 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: yea; I tried to compile it first and got the same error.
(02:55:39 PM) crimsun: (note that ``http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-driver alsa-kernel'' needs to be ``http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel alsa-kernel'')
(02:56:13 PM) mahound: (nevermind)
(02:56:23 PM) crimsun: did you then follow the instructions about ``ALSAKERNELDIR=../alsa-kernel ./configure ...''?
(02:56:31 PM) shapermechanist: GMWeezel, i choose carefualy what hardware i buy, and i don't need the last HG
(02:56:57 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: This is my first computer and first time using Linux so didn't think about that.
(02:57:16 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: I just rememberd I may have forgotten to change the URL to driver.
(02:57:43 PM) shapermechanist: yeah, this thinks are learned by the hard way :0
(02:57:47 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: That I did; re downloading.
(02:58:07 PM) sebrock: Hey, what color has the "line-in" plug usually? Wiki says that CA0106 does not support analog capture, so I'm looking for help to get it work
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(02:58:40 PM) hjubal: I have problems with my notebook sound card: headphone doesn't work
(02:58:42 PM) hjubal: Alsa version is 1.0.13-4, and the device is "00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)"
(02:59:10 PM) GMWeezel: Looks like headphones are causing all kinds of hell today.
(02:59:12 PM) sebrock: ah that card is a mess
(02:59:25 PM) hjubal: gee
(02:59:42 PM) crimsun: it's because everyone's using some sort of HDA codec
(02:59:46 PM) hjubal: sebrock:  I'm afraid of
(02:59:51 PM) crimsun: and people need to use hg alsa-driver for HDA codecs :)
(03:00:31 PM) sebrock: hjubal, I see dead people?
(03:00:50 PM) hjubal: sebrock:  ?
(03:01:19 PM) sebrock: what are u afraid of= ;)'
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(03:01:50 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun:http://pastebin.ca/372115
(03:01:53 PM) hjubal: I'm afraid that you're right, and my card is a mess
(03:02:00 PM) mahound: crimsun, it won't load
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(03:02:03 PM) hjubal:  the problems come when some program activate sound system and system hangs
(03:02:21 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: I had that problem with nVidias GeForce 6200 but with videos.
(03:03:33 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: don't compile using sudo.
(03:03:46 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: and install autoconf and automake1.7
(03:03:47 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: identical error.
(03:03:52 PM) hjubal: I'm running etch and overall stability is good.. I had a look to other distros but was a pity
(03:03:53 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: okat.
(03:03:55 PM) GMWeezel: *kay
(03:04:10 PM) mahound: crimsun, http://www.pastebin.ca/372118
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(03:04:51 PM) crimsun: mahound: ugh, not this again.
(03:04:54 PM) crimsun: ok.
(03:04:55 PM) hjubal: GMWeezel:  did your system hang? playing videos?
(03:05:14 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: Yea; I turned off video acceleration except for playing games.
(03:05:34 PM) mahound: crimsun, what's up?
(03:05:42 PM) crimsun: mahound: sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel && sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=lg-lw
(03:05:43 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: It sucked at playing videos (killed my system everytime unless I used VLC and OpenGL output) but it was good for games.
(03:06:02 PM) hjubal: GMWeezel:  yes, that could be the right thing to do at first: using 'nv' module instead of 'nvidia'
(03:06:22 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: Then the 3D acceleration doesn't work to well or it didn't for me.
(03:06:48 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: Also, I became an ATI person because nvidias 2D acceleration doesn't work well because of Linux not using GDI.
(03:07:14 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: Try going to a website with a lot of text; for some reason I had issues and it chugged even though it played my flight sim perfectly,.
(03:07:41 PM) hjubal: GMWeezel:  sure! ..did you notice that OpenGL performace are very good while 2d, say sdl games, slow down?
(03:08:33 PM) GMWeezel: hjubal: Yea; that's what I hated. For some reason, on a flight sim program, it slowed to a snails pace on the _text menus_ but did 3d acceleration a lot better than my integrated card but when it came to 2D, it sucked.
(03:08:51 PM) hjubal: ggrrrrr
(03:09:00 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/372124 I got that at the end
(03:09:07 PM) mahound: crimsun, it works
(03:09:17 PM) mahound: how do i add it permanently?
(03:09:25 PM) crimsun: mahound: what do you mean by "works"?
(03:09:34 PM) crimsun: mahound: please be precise and test all the combinations.
(03:10:06 PM) crimsun: e.g., does headphone jack sense (speakers mute when headphones are plugged) work? does the mic work?
(03:10:23 PM) mahound: when i plug the headphones, it turns the speakers of
(03:10:25 PM) mahound: *off
(03:10:33 PM) crimsun: good, and when you disconnect the headphones?
(03:10:34 PM) mahound: and plays in the headphones only :)
(03:10:48 PM) mahound: it gets back
(03:10:56 PM) crimsun: ok, good. I'll push this to hg.
(03:11:05 PM) crimsun: thanks for verifying.
(03:11:13 PM) mahound: no problem
(03:11:17 PM) mahound: thanks for the help
(03:11:20 PM) crimsun: can I have the precise model # of your laptop?
(03:11:34 PM) crimsun: LW40 [..]
(03:11:39 PM) mahound: it's an lg lw40 express
(03:11:43 PM) crimsun: thanks.
(03:12:13 PM) mahound: how do i add this parameter permanently?
(03:12:21 PM) crimsun: which distro do you use?
(03:12:26 PM) mahound: ubuntu
(03:13:00 PM) crimsun: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=lg-lw" |sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
(03:13:24 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: Don't mean to rush; just reposting. http://pastebin.ca/372124
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(03:14:26 PM) mahound: ok, thanks a lot, crimsun :)
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(03:18:06 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: You there?
(03:18:32 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: yes, but I'm pushing mahound's change to our kernel. Please be patient.
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(03:18:47 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: No problem waiting just wasn't sure.
(03:19:57 PM) weyer: hi, i have a problem recording something.  my computer is hooked up to a mixing table, and when i open both the line-in and the output i get feedback, so i know it's connected correctly. 
(03:20:07 PM) weyer: but recording gives files with no sound
(03:20:13 PM) weyer: arecord -D default -f cd -d 10 -t wav out.wav
(03:20:34 PM) weyer: any ideas where to start fixing this?
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(03:37:08 PM) weyer: fixed it, i missed the capture settings in alsamixer
(03:38:57 PM) GMWeezel: Congrats.
(03:39:20 PM) GMWeezel: Are you using Audacity?
(03:39:24 PM) GMWeezel: Wait-- dumb question.
(03:39:32 PM) GMWeezel: You posted the command.
(03:45:24 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: When you get back, send a message with my name so I'll hear it; might be AFK.
(03:46:56 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: the actual error is above what you pasted.
(03:47:08 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: K; one moment.
(03:47:20 PM) GMWeezel: I see it; sorry.
(03:47:44 PM) GMWeezel: http://pastebin.ca/372169
(03:53:38 PM) crimsun: GMWeezel: revert this changeset: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel/raw-rev/02d568a3f440
(03:55:01 PM) GMWeezel: crimsun: How do I apply the patch? I vaguely remember something like patch -p0 < [patch]
(03:55:27 PM) crimsun: patch -p1 -R
(03:57:02 PM) GMWeezel: it went to the next line and still allows input
(03:58:22 PM) crimsun: patch -p1 -R < foo
(03:58:33 PM) crimsun: you're reversing the patch, hence -R
(03:59:18 PM) GMWeezel: recompiling now.
(04:04:46 PM) GMWeezel: Yay; compiled succesfully. sudo make install?
(04:05:49 PM) shapermechanist: better make pkg
(04:06:07 PM) shapermechanist: with checkinstall or some other debian tool
(04:06:27 PM) GMWeezel: Alright. I'm still going to but for what purpose?
(04:06:45 PM) shapermechanist: u can easy remove it
(04:06:53 PM) shapermechanist: with apt-get
(04:07:11 PM) shapermechanist: if u don't make pkg u need to type make uninstall to remove it
(04:07:24 PM) GMWeezel: How do I use this? "make pkg"
(04:07:26 PM) shapermechanist: and for make uninstall u need the folder
(04:07:37 PM) shapermechanist: dunno, i'm not a debian user
(04:07:43 PM) GMWeezel: shapermechanist: I always keep sources but now that I know about this I might not.
(04:07:53 PM) shapermechanist: think checkinstall support *.deb
(04:08:00 PM) GMWeezel: Hmm... so "make install" for standard installation?
(04:08:02 PM) shapermechanist: apt-get install checkinstall
(04:08:27 PM) GMWeezel: I've already downloaded it; i'll figure out how to use it later. I just want this to be installed and over with.
(04:08:33 PM) GMWeezel: "make install"?
(04:08:48 PM) shapermechanist: i think yes
(04:09:15 PM) shapermechanist: i new only 3 make variant; make, scons and ./waf
(04:09:15 PM) GMWeezel: sudo needed but working now.
(04:09:34 PM) shapermechanist: yeah sudo need u install
(04:09:43 PM) GMWeezel: Hmmm... well now that I have the newest ALSA, back to the root problem.
(04:09:52 PM) GMWeezel: Ah recursion...
(04:10:21 PM) shapermechanist: do u remoev the old one
(04:10:30 PM) GMWeezel: No...
(04:10:38 PM) GMWeezel: Well damnit.
(04:10:39 PM) GMWeezel: One sec.
(04:11:03 PM) GMWeezel: alsa-base or you don't know because you don't use a debian based?
(04:11:23 PM) shapermechanist: i can only supose
(04:11:39 PM) Holborn [n=holborn@unaffiliated/holborn] entered the room.
(04:11:45 PM) GMWeezel: What are you using?
(04:11:50 PM) shapermechanist: slackware
(04:12:20 PM) shapermechanist: and u will get additional problems if kernel is builded with alsa suport as modules
(04:12:42 PM) GMWeezel: Actually...
(04:12:42 PM) shapermechanist: or any kind of alsa in the kernels
(04:12:45 PM) GMWeezel: damn.............
(04:12:54 PM) shapermechanist: but try :)
(04:13:03 PM) shapermechanist: u allready build it anyway
(04:13:33 PM) GMWeezel: If I remember right, the last time I built an ALSA package, it killed my sound and I reinstalled the kernal to fix it so it's probably built in but anyway; Well i've installed it so reboot?
(04:14:09 PM) shapermechanist: hm
(04:14:20 PM) shapermechanist: i supose yes
(04:14:20 PM) GMWeezel: Is that a yes or no?
(04:14:22 PM) GMWeezel: ok.