Session Start: Fri Mar 02 20:55:54 2007 Session Ident: #NAACSenate 03[20:55] * Now talking in #NAACSenate 03[20:55] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Western_Digital 01[20:56] HELLO 01[20:56] When does tis' meeting start [20:56] in a min 01[20:56] cool [20:56] I gotta allow gopher in here 01[20:56] hmm 01[20:57] AYE THIS: http://www.thenaac.net/Alliance/index.php?showtopic=8629&pid=63474&st=0&#entry63474 01[20:57] DO NOW [20:58] done 01[20:58] w00t [20:58] and Gopher should be on his way 01[20:58] cool 01[20:58] I will buy nukes tommarow 03[20:58] * Retrieving #NAACSenate modes... [20:58] XD 03[20:58] * Western_Digital changes topic to 'THE SECKSI SENATE' 03[20:59] * Western_Digital changes topic to 'TEH SECKSI SENATE' [20:59] I wish gopher would hurry up [20:59] lol [20:59] I have him on MSN 01[20:59] hmm 01[20:59] what is it? [21:00] I dunno 01[21:00] RAWR 05[21:00] -dream.esper.net:@#NAACSenate- BartB88 invited Gopherbashi|brb into channel #NAACSenate 03[21:00] * Joins: Gopherbashi|brb 03[21:00] * ChanServ sets mode: +b *!chrisdubsk@*.N203.ResNet.QueensU.CA 03[21:00] * Gopherbashi|brb was kicked by ChanServ (You are not permitted to be on this channel.) [21:00] oh 01[21:00] Needs to ident 03[21:00] * Western_Digital sets mode: -b *!chrisdubsk@*.N203.ResNet.QueensU.CA 03[21:01] * Joins: Gopherbashi 03[21:01] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Gopherbashi 01[21:01] HYELLO [21:01] XD [21:02] Well this is it [21:02] oy [21:02] lol [21:02] two senators! :P 01[21:02] WOW [21:02] XD [21:02] its like the werebot game :D 01[21:02] Let's do this [21:02] I hope you like my lead line lair [21:02] Okay top on my agenda was Emergency Elcetions 01[21:02] ZOMG [21:02] Gopher has that started 01[21:03] I elect Melagius and theDiz [21:03] yesm [21:03] Thanks [21:03] Next move to is to get my prop voted on [21:03] f*** i forgot to end nominations :P 01[21:03] OH! 01[21:03] SMOOTH 01[21:03] Gopher, AYE this http://www.thenaac.net/Alliance/index.php?showtopic=8629&pid=63474&st=0&#entry63474 01[21:03] My nuke request [21:03] The ballot referendum passed 01[21:03] Yah I haerd [21:03] umm [21:04] just a sec 01[21:04] I would like to be a receiver [21:04] Why is gopher aying it? [21:04] alright, we're talking about ballots now? 01[21:04] of the ballot 01[21:04] Can I be a receiver of the ballots? [21:04] depends what they choose [21:05] we're doing votes to narrow it down still? [21:05] kk 01[21:05] yah? [21:05] after they choose the MoI proceeeds with executing the method 01[21:05] NEXT: 01[21:05] ... [21:05] WD slow down 01[21:05] NO U! k [21:05] When were you plann on doing these? [21:05] After senat elections, now? 01[21:06] doing what? [21:06] Starting the vote for the ballot type 01[21:06] Ah 01[21:06] I will do it [21:06] might as well start now 01[21:06] WHat should I say? [21:06] actually 01[21:06] I SHALL DO IT [21:06] wait until after the emergency ones are done [21:06] k 01[21:06] k [21:07] Gopher has to run it WD 01[21:07] I C 01[21:07] Yall' will vote for me right? [21:07] Fianl part ofthis short meeting [21:07] i'll do it after we're done the emergency elections 01[21:07] kool [21:07] Constitution 01[21:07] NEXTX 01[21:07] oh that 01[21:07] hmmm 01[21:07] Well, Option 1 01[21:07] send WD the spiz to an alliance with one and steal it, then change the names [21:07] lol 01[21:08] I like it 01[21:08] AYE [21:08] I move that the Senate's constitution work be mergerd with the MOI's commissioned work 01[21:08] I second [21:08] alright [21:08] Gopher [21:08] hmmm? [21:08] meaning? 01[21:08] P.S., I am keeping logs [21:08] we started off by considering types of govs 01[21:08] hmmm 01[21:08] I think we should move to monarchy [21:08] it would be nice if people talked in my thread XD [21:08] maybe putting the types up in a poll to get a feeling of what the ppl want 01[21:09] Want me to do that? [21:09] i can do that [21:09] aSk Gopher, he's incharge of the consitgution ofming now [21:09] we're his brainstormers [21:09] so what are we thinking of? [21:09] what options do we have? [21:09] and general helpers [21:10] Democracy, Republi, Limited Monarchy 01[21:10] Federal Republic [21:10] how are you gonna do that WD? [21:10] Companies like States? 01[21:10] holdo n [21:10] or Divs like states?> 01[21:11] back 01[21:11] what? 01[21:11] What you mean? 01[21:11] SPEAKZ [21:11] what do you mean by federal republic? [21:11] Fed. Republic requires "Staes" or "Provinces" 01[21:12] ah 01[21:12] yah, that sounds cook 01[21:12] cool* 01[21:12] We need like, 5 01[21:12] Georgia, California, uh 01[21:12] Alaska [21:12] ... 01[21:12] wat' 01[21:12] WAT 01[21:13] I could chair it or something [21:13] lol [21:13] WD 01[21:13] WAT U [21:13] We're just discussing general 01[21:13] I c [21:14] one sec 01[21:14] WHY [21:14] HVL has wueried me 01[21:14] HVL? [21:14] HCL? 01[21:14] OH! [21:14] litz is here now 01[21:14] Hey, just a question, is this meeting private, or am I aloud to post the logs? 03[21:15] * Joins: HighChancellorLitz 03[21:15] * ChanServ sets mode: +o HighChancellorLitz [21:15] hey litz 01[21:15] WHO ARE YOU!? [21:15] This is an Exec Session [21:15] sorry i'm a dork [21:15] IT is private [21:15] and missed most of it 01[21:15] I c 01[21:15] didn't miss to much 01[21:15] I will send logs if you want [21:16] not right now 01[21:16] kk [21:16] You can post logs in MoI private room 01[21:16] I might [21:16] and Seate Chambers [21:16] put em in senate chambers [21:16] HCL 01[21:16] okay then [21:16] Yes b art [21:16] bart* [21:16] We were discussing gov't types that we coul;d poll the membership with [21:17] (Fed) Republic, Limited Monarchy, Democracy [21:17] is what we have so far 01[21:17] hmm [21:17] hhmmmm 01[21:17] How about COmmunist :D 01[21:17] ICAN SEE THAT! [21:17] I'm partial to the limited monarchy [21:17] that is eco system [21:17] Lim monarchy is my pref too 01[21:18] Yah, that's cool 01[21:18] How about Anarchy for a gag? [21:18] but I dunno that NAAC would go for that [21:18] how do you guys see a limited monarchy? [21:18] No gags, yet WD 01[21:18] RAWR [21:18] lol 01[21:18] Gopher, it coudl work 03[21:18] * Looking up Gopherbashi user info... [21:18] Like the current system with an unclected prtector [21:18] im not saying it couldnt 03[21:18] * Looking up BartB88 user info... [21:19] choosing the monarch would be hard [21:19] im just asking how you guys envision it [21:19] Holyone doesn;t fit the activity req [21:19] that i don't know 01[21:19] I don't know [21:19] i'll be monarch [21:19] Like Britian after the Magna Carta? 01[21:19] LAWL [21:19] XD 01[21:19] Yes, I knpow what you are talking about 01[21:20] Magna Carta, hmmm [21:20] let's go with the limited monarchy suggestion for now 01[21:20] That sounds bad [21:20] k [21:20] lol [21:20] how "limited" is the monarchy? [21:20] Senate/GA vote 01[21:20] limited, as the govt has to go by law [21:20] Judicial could be elected too [21:20] brb 01[21:21] WAT [21:21] ye [21:21] s [21:21] I said it [21:21] the J word with the E word [21:21] Senate/GA vote overturns king's decision? 01[21:21] I think 01[21:21] Like a veto [21:22] yeah [21:22] and the fact that he monarch has to follow the const 01[21:22] hm [21:22] like the IGC if you know who they were [21:23] if we wanted to go this way, could we take constitution editing powers out of the king's hands? 02[21:23] * Quits: HighChancellorLitz (Ping timeout) 01[21:23] that would work [21:23] http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/IGC [21:23] not exactly like [21:23] but simialr too 01[21:24] O RLY [21:25] hmmm [21:25] YA RLY 01[21:25] I c [21:25] so basically the king approves all treaties, etc. 01[21:26] I think that is cool [21:26] yeah [21:26] so would there be a senate in this case? [21:26] GA/Senate has to approve too [21:26] WEll that could go either way 01[21:26] YES 01[21:26] SENATE 01[21:26] HAVE TO HAVE THAT [21:26] Personally [21:27] I dislike it 01[21:27] I dislike that view 01[21:27] :D [21:27] how do you feel about elected ministers? 01[21:27] I like that 01[21:28] I think that is the best way to do it 01[21:28] AND [21:28] IF if protector has say-so over them [21:28] of course [21:28] the protector gives them orders 01[21:28] I think the runner up in protector/president/king/w.e is WRONG we should vote the VP in [21:28] and they are just an "Arm" of the protecotr" 01[21:28] I think the runner up in protector/president/king/w.e is WRONG we should vote the VP in 01[21:28] WHo likes that? ^^^ [21:28] WD [21:28] NO 01[21:28] Why? [21:28] and off topic 01[21:29] Still, on the idea of GOVT, [21:29] VP should be appointed [21:29] yeas [21:29] but we've moved to mored the fine tuning of the Limited Monarchy sytem 01[21:29] CAncel my last 01[21:29] I think we need ministers though [21:30] elected ministers? :P 01[21:30] Like, MoI 01[21:30] MoD 01[21:30] MoFa 01[21:30] MoFa yes, if not a republican for Elected ministers [21:30] hmmm? 01[21:31] hmm [21:31] I am for elected ministers in Lim Monarch and Democracy but not in (Fed) Republic [21:31] ah 01[21:31] I c 01[21:31] I agree [21:31] i'm getting the sense that elected ministers are highly supported 01[21:31] Yes 01[21:32] THAT HAS TO STAY [21:32] and i think that's a good way to go 01[21:32] SO, will any of this happen, or what? [21:33] we'll see [21:33] hopefully [21:33] This is formative stages WD 01[21:33] i c [21:33] I hope it goes through [21:33] hell, all we need is the approval of grub and 2 senators :P [21:33] lol [21:33] well [21:33] 3 after the emergenc elections [21:33] lol 01[21:33] lawl 01[21:33] I will approve 01[21:33] so will bart 01[21:34] and gopher 01[21:34] so it is done [21:34] im not a senator :P 01[21:34] oh yah! 01[21:34] Litz is though 01[21:34] NOW! All we need is GRUB [21:34] ok, so right now we have [21:34] 1) elected senators [21:34] 2) limited monarchy [21:34] yep 01[21:34] k 01[21:34] that all? [21:35] well and 4 possible forms of gov [21:35] brb 01[21:35] What about military though? [21:35] may be a while 01[21:35] Would that change? [21:35] monarchy is a bad term, i prefer to say "long-term leader" :P [21:35] Only with new MoD 01[21:35] heh 01[21:35] WD for MoD 01[21:35] :D [21:35] military isn't a constitutional issue 01[21:35] we just need one of you to win protector! 01[21:35] I know that [21:36] lol 01[21:36] ALso, who has the time to write up a NEW constitutiom? [21:36] me :P 01[21:36] lawl 01[21:36] to much time [21:36] after the 7th [21:36] cuz til then im swamped [21:37] so, we agree that we want some sort of senate-like organization 01[21:37] yes 01[21:37] and ministers [21:37] what role do we see this senate playing? 01[21:37] Well, 01[21:37] depends 01[21:37] what is the pres/protect allowed to do? [21:38] Only with new MoD 01[21:38] can Senate Veto? [21:38] ha, that's also what we need to decide [21:38] grrr [21:38] back [21:38] k 01[21:38] We need grub in here 01[21:38] Get things done faster [21:39] grub aint around 01[21:39] I know [21:39] well, if we have elected ministers 01[21:39] yez [21:39] does it make sense to have those ministers on the senate? 01[21:39] no 01[21:39] Senate | ministers, different [21:39] Well [21:39] I can see if it is limited monarcht [21:40] that Senate could be the ministers 01[21:40] Hey, I don't know if this is on topic, but what about nuke requests? [21:40] would take lots of thought though [21:40] Aye yourself and buy your nuke tomarrow 01[21:40] k 01[21:41] So, If I aye it, it is passed? [21:41] yes [21:41] 2-0 01[21:41] cool [21:41] 2-0-1* 01[21:41] PASSEED [21:41] lol 01[21:42] hehe 01[21:42] nukes tommarow [21:42] Well are we done for tonight? 01[21:42] I guess 01[21:42] nice speaking [21:42] yeah [21:42] thanks [21:43] the positive side i see about having ministers on the senate is that it lets the ministers have a voice - it can form a council of those who are making many of the decisions 01[21:43] Okay, [21:43] WD if you'd post this in the senat chambers 01[21:43] let the ministers have a voice, just not 'IN' Senate 01[21:43] Bart, I will [21:43] I agree gopher [21:43] alright, i guess we're done here [21:43] k [21:44] I'm gonna leave you with access Gopher [21:44] though you can;t allow anyone in you have 50 access 01[21:44] You guys leave, so I can close this 01[21:44] See yah [21:44] no one else in, got it 03[21:44] * Parts: BartB88 03[21:44] * Parts: Gopherbashi Session Close: Fri Mar 02 21:44:45 2007