just wanted to let people know if rob and other already aren't that there *is* progress occuring on -current. I'd considered going only-SMP for kernels, but have found a machine or two that blow up while installing with those kernels. Interestingly, other SMP boxes are fine. And so far, ALL uni-P boxes are fine with an SMP kernel. volkerdi: At various times, I have heard discussion of PAM and Slack, and that it might be included in an /extra type fashion, what's the accurate and official story on that? My main interest is becuase I want to try to use SELinux with Slack and that's been my biggest hurdle the various times I have had enough time to try FriedBob: the biggest problem with PAM is that it becomes a dependency for everything. Second biggest problem is that many things need to be patched (or IMHO forked) to work with it. I know people were wondering if I was hit by a bus ;-) u weren't ? well, it only nicked me NightTiger/##slackware wonders if it's appropriate to ask why no PostgreSQL in Slackware, and subsequent Pg support in PHP, but is slightly in awe of Mr. P., so isn't sure. Again, PostgreSQL ends up being found by compiling things and becomes a dependency. MySQL is continually improving, and is good enough for most uses. And, one simply can't ship (and maintain) everything. I like FF's "restore session" feature a lot. :-) _Hitek_: Modular X is in -current here, and is fully up to date with the latest ftp.x.org/pub/individual/ volkerdi, can we expect gnome to become part of slackware again? I know its a time consuming job to maintain it but, is there any chance? Dame: Very unlikely. I used fvwm for many years. I've been on KDE for years, and now I'm giving XFCE4 a whirl. nachox: well, I'm been collecting a bunch of AMD64 machines here... Slackware-64! YES!!!! PLEASE!! try http://slackware64.com ;-)