Conversation with mallrls at 3/11/2007 11:14:51 PM on bjweeks (aim)
(11:14:51 PM) MALlRlS: sorry
(11:14:52 PM) MALlRlS: haha
(11:14:59 PM) BJ: yay!
(11:15:14 PM) MALlRlS: okay, so...
(11:15:16 PM) BJ: here is the wiki guide, I can't find any problems with it
(11:15:17 PM) BJ: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_ntfs-3g
(11:15:34 PM) BJ: if you have any questions, shoot
(11:15:55 PM) MALlRlS: I'll try and understand
(11:16:10 PM) MALlRlS: and I'll ask my other friend too, but believe me when I say that....I have no idea what the hell I'm doing, haha
(11:16:46 PM) BJ: I don't mind helping, but total spoon feeding is always bad ;)
(11:19:32 PM) MALlRlS: k...so...
(11:20:11 PM) MALlRlS: *keeps rereading*
(11:20:20 PM) MALlRlS: *wonders what to do next...
(11:20:35 PM) MALlRlS: should I do all this through terminal?
(11:20:50 PM) BJ: yep
(11:20:52 PM) BJ: how else?
(11:21:07 PM) MALlRlS: uhh
(11:21:10 PM) MALlRlS: I suppose that'd be right
(11:23:07 PM) MALlRlS: should I get my friends external harddrive and back up all my files before I do this?
(11:23:25 PM) BJ: install it? no, mount it? good idea
(11:24:02 PM) BJ: wait, that made no sense
(11:24:19 PM) BJ: you are safe to install it but before you mount the drive you might want to back up
(11:24:31 PM) BJ: I've never had a problem but you never no
(11:25:14 PM) MALlRlS: I think I'll be fine
(11:25:19 PM) MALlRlS: so..what should be the first thing I do?
(11:25:29 PM) MALlRlS: like..I mean..I've only used a few terminal commands...
(11:25:34 PM) MALlRlS: I'm really not sure about anything...haha
(11:25:51 PM) MALlRlS: just the last couple of hours is the ONLY experience I've ever had with Linux
(11:26:05 PM) BJ: see the little boxes?
(11:26:09 PM) MALlRlS: yes
(11:26:14 PM) MALlRlS: terminal commands?
(11:26:18 PM) BJ: what's inside is the commands
(11:26:37 PM) MALlRlS: links?
(11:26:49 PM) MALlRlS: or...
(11:26:49 PM) MALlRlS: software?
(11:26:56 PM) BJ: hummm?
(11:27:06 PM) MALlRlS: what's inside the commands?
(11:27:18 PM) BJ: oh
(11:27:19 PM) BJ: wow, I fal
(11:27:32 PM) BJ: inside boxes = commands
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(11:27:40 PM) MALlRlS: God...
(11:27:41 PM) BJ: inside boxes = commands
(11:27:43 PM) MALlRlS: I fail -_-
(11:27:47 PM) MALlRlS: yeah
(11:27:51 PM) MALlRlS: okay, so...
(11:28:00 PM) MALlRlS: should I just copy/paste all that into terminal?
(11:28:16 PM) BJ: let me check it over
(11:28:26 PM) MALlRlS: okay
(11:28:40 PM) BJ: well, for a start don't copy the #
(11:28:48 PM) MALlRlS: k
(11:29:00 PM) BJ: do the first 3 for a start
(11:29:33 PM) MALlRlS: just sys-fs/ntfs3g?
(11:30:18 PM) BJ: yep, it pulls in everything else
(11:30:18 PM) MALlRlS: the first command I enter...
(11:30:25 PM) BJ: echo sys-fs/ntfs3g >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
(11:30:25 PM) MALlRlS: k
(11:30:30 PM) BJ: echo sys-fs/fuse >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
(11:30:33 PM) BJ: emerge sys-fs/ntfs3g
(11:30:36 PM) BJ: modules-update
(11:30:44 PM) MALlRlS: k :D
(11:31:17 PM) MALlRlS: okay, did emerge sys-fs/ntfs3g
(11:31:28 PM) MALlRlS: and now it's downloading/installing/etc
(11:31:36 PM) BJ: gentoo, compiling ;)
(11:31:43 PM) MALlRlS: ahh, okay
(11:32:09 PM) BJ: might brb, getting new ip
(11:35:47 PM) MALlRlS: k
(11:35:54 PM) MALlRlS: I did all those things up till modules-update
(11:36:36 PM) BJ: ls /dev/*d*
(11:36:52 PM) BJ: or do you know your harddrive?
(11:37:15 PM) MALlRlS: uhh
(11:37:18 PM) MALlRlS: I don't
(11:37:24 PM) BJ: ls /dev/*d*
(11:37:26 PM) BJ: should work...
(11:38:38 PM) MALlRlS: how do I replace /dev/dha1 with NFTS?
(11:38:59 PM) BJ: you don't "replace" it
(11:39:02 PM) BJ: you mount it
(11:39:21 PM) MALlRlS: oh
(11:39:23 PM) MALlRlS: and how do I do that?
(11:39:36 PM) MALlRlS: I feel like such a noob :(
(11:39:41 PM) BJ: hda1 is your windows partition?
(11:40:03 PM) MALlRlS: yes
(11:40:13 PM) MALlRlS: I think 5 is this partition
(11:41:10 PM) BJ: ATA or SATA?
(11:41:48 PM) MALlRlS: umm
(11:41:58 PM) MALlRlS: are you going to kill me if I don't know what those are?
(11:42:18 PM) BJ: heh
(11:42:29 PM) BJ: I take ata then
(11:42:49 PM) BJ: 'cat /etc/mtab'
(11:42:56 PM) BJ: run that and paste the output
(11:43:28 PM) MALlRlS: ~ # cat /etc/mtab
/dev/sda5 / reiserfs rw,noatime,notail,user_xattr 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec 0 0
udev /dev tmpfs rw,nosuid 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,noexec,nosuid,devmode=0664,devgid=85 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/Kororaa\040AIGLXgl\0400.3 iso9660 ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1001 0 0

(11:43:44 PM) BJ: SATA
(11:43:50 PM) MALlRlS: okay
(11:43:52 PM) BJ: and EW reiserfs
(11:43:56 PM) MALlRlS: so what should I type from now?
(11:44:33 PM) MALlRlS: the last thing I did in terminal was the modules-update followed by IS /dev/*d*
(11:44:40 PM) BJ: that show anything?
(11:44:46 PM) BJ: the ls thing?
(11:45:08 PM) MALlRlS: ls /dev/*d*
/dev/adsp /dev/dvd /dev/sda1 /dev/urandom /dev/usbdev2.2_ep81
/dev/audio /dev/dvdrw /dev/sda2 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00 /dev/usbdev2.3_ep00
/dev/cdrom /dev/hdc /dev/sda5 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81 /dev/usbdev2.3_ep81
/dev/cdrom1 /dev/oldmem /dev/stderr /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep00
/dev/cdrw /dev/random /dev/stdin /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81
/dev/dsp /dev/sda /dev/stdout /dev/usbdev2.2_ep00

/dev/disk:
by-id by-path by-uuid

/dev/dri:
card0

/dev/fd:
0 1 2 3

/dev/rd:
0 1 10 11 12 13 14 15 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

/dev/snd:
controlC0 pcmC0D0c pcmC0D0p pcmC0D1c pcmC0D2p seq timer

/dev/sound:
adsp audio dsp mixer sequencer sequencer2

(11:45:56 PM) BJ: /dev/sda is your hard drive
(11:46:11 PM) MALlRlS: okay :D
(11:46:17 PM) BJ: 'fdisk /dev/sda'
(11:46:21 PM) BJ: then type 'p'
(11:46:27 PM) BJ: see what is NTFS
(11:46:29 PM) BJ: then 'q'
(11:46:40 PM) BJ: 'd' and 'w' are very bad
(11:47:20 PM) MALlRlS: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 20887 167774796 7 HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2 20888 24792 31366912+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5 20888 24792 31366881 b W95 FAT32

(11:47:40 PM) BJ: bingo
(11:47:51 PM) BJ: /dev/sda1
(11:47:59 PM) MALlRlS: okay
(11:48:00 PM) MALlRlS: so...
(11:48:05 PM) MALlRlS: now...what do I type in terminal?
(11:48:11 PM) MALlRlS: just...
(11:48:19 PM) BJ: mkdir /mnt/windows
(11:48:25 PM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
(11:49:34 PM) MALlRlS: says I failed to mount because NTFS logfile is unclean
(11:50:10 PM) BJ: nifty
(11:50:27 PM) BJ: ran the file system check in winblows lately?
(11:50:39 PM) MALlRlS: I don't think so..
(11:50:41 PM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # mkdir /mnt/windows
aiglxgl ~ # ntfs-3g /dev/sda /mnt/windows
NTFS signature is missing.
Failed to startup volume: Invalid argument
Failed to mount '/dev/sda': Invalid argument
The device '/dev/sda' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?

(11:50:46 PM) MALlRlS: that's what I got the first time
(11:50:59 PM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0)
Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not supported
Mount is denied because NTFS logfile is unclean. Choose one action:
Boot Windows and shutdown it cleanly, or if you have a removable
device then click the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon in the Windows
taskbar notification area before disconnecting it.
Or
Run 'ntfsfix' on Linux unless you have Vista, then mount NTFS with
the 'force' option read-write, or with the 'ro' option read-only.
Or
Mount the NTFS volume with the 'ro' option in read-only mode.

(11:51:02 PM) MALlRlS: that was the second
(11:51:46 PM) BJ: well your first command was wrong...
(11:52:01 PM) MALlRlS: should I try again?
(11:52:09 PM) BJ: ntfsfix --help
(11:53:21 PM) MALlRlS: hm?
(11:53:45 PM) BJ: even have that program?
(11:53:53 PM) MALlRlS: nope
(11:53:56 PM) BJ: ntfs-3g should have installed it I would think
(11:53:57 PM) BJ: humm
(11:54:14 PM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # ntfsfix --help
ntfsfix v1.13.1 (libntfs 9:0:0)

Usage: ntfsfix [options] device
Attempt to fix an NTFS partition.

-h, --help Display this help
-V, --version Display version information

For example: ntfsfix /dev/hda6

Developers' email address: linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sf.net
Linux NTFS homepage: http://www.linux-ntfs.org

(11:54:24 PM) BJ: can't hurt
(11:54:32 PM) BJ: we
(11:54:33 PM) BJ: oops
(11:54:35 PM) BJ: er
(11:54:39 PM) BJ: disregard
(11:54:45 PM) MALlRlS: k
(11:55:05 PM) BJ: ntfsfix /dev/sda1
(11:55:20 PM) MALlRlS: k
(11:55:25 PM) MALlRlS: processed succsessfully
(11:55:38 PM) BJ: now this
(11:55:38 PM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
(11:55:42 PM) BJ: with the 1 this time ;)
(11:55:51 PM) MALlRlS: instead of 3?
(11:56:09 PM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda /mnt/windows
(11:56:12 PM) BJ: ^^ wrong
(11:56:16 PM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
(11:56:19 PM) BJ: ^^ right
(11:56:27 PM) MALlRlS: oh!
(11:56:28 PM) MALlRlS: okay
(11:56:39 PM) BJ: you tried to mount the whole HD
(11:56:53 PM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
Volume is scheduled for check.
Please boot into Windows TWICE, or use the 'force' mount option.

(11:57:26 PM) BJ: yeah, your FS wants to be checked...
(11:57:43 PM) MALlRlS: hmm
(11:57:48 PM) MALlRlS: so..do I go into Windows now?
(11:57:56 PM) BJ: twice, it seems
(11:58:02 PM) MALlRlS: hah, okay then
(11:58:04 PM) MALlRlS: I'll brb
(11:58:07 PM) BJ: ok
(12:06:21 AM) MALlRlS: okay
(12:06:30 AM) BJ: try the mount again?
(12:06:38 AM) MALlRlS: what's the command again?
(12:06:46 AM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
(12:07:14 AM) MALlRlS: WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected. Some driver features are
not available (swap file on NTFS, boot from NTFS by LILO), and
unmount is not safe unless it's made sure the ntfs-3g process
naturally terminates after calling 'umount'. The safe FUSE kernel
driver is included in the official Linux kernels since version
2.6.20-rc1, or in the FUSE 2.6.0 or later software packages,
except the faulty FUSE version 2.6.2. Please see the next page
for more help: http://www.ntfs-3g.org/support.html#fuse26

(12:07:54 AM) BJ: hummm
(12:08:47 AM) MALlRlS: would I have to do all the other commands again?
(12:08:56 AM) BJ: nope
(12:08:59 AM) BJ: as most one
(12:09:00 AM) MALlRlS: or the fuse command?
(12:09:05 AM) BJ: reading this page
(12:09:08 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:09:42 AM) BJ: grep fuse /var/log/messages
(12:09:52 AM) BJ: shouldn't show anything but can't hurt to check
(12:10:05 AM) MALlRlS: Mar 12 02:50:48 aiglxgl fuse init (API version 7.7)
Mar 12 03:09:02 aiglxgl fuse init (API version 7.7)

(12:10:37 AM) BJ: er...
(12:10:48 AM) BJ: did you use genkernel?
(12:10:54 AM) MALlRlS: uhh
(12:10:57 AM) MALlRlS: I don't think so?
(12:11:06 AM) BJ: you configed your own kernel?
(12:11:16 AM) MALlRlS: I have no idea
(12:11:21 AM) MALlRlS: just what you've been telling me to do
(12:11:23 AM) MALlRlS: that's all I've done
(12:11:29 AM) BJ: how did you install gentoo?
(12:11:43 AM) MALlRlS: umm
(12:11:44 AM) MALlRlS: oh
(12:11:50 AM) MALlRlS: off a boot CD
(12:12:04 AM) MALlRlS: through kororaa
(12:12:10 AM) MALlRlS: umm
(12:12:31 AM) BJ: you followed the install guide?
(12:12:45 AM) MALlRlS: there wasn't one
(12:12:51 AM) MALlRlS: it was basically my friend
(12:13:14 AM) BJ: explains how you don't know taht
(12:14:17 AM) MALlRlS: it was off a live CD if that helps at all?
(12:14:34 AM) BJ: it seems fuse is in your kernel
(12:14:43 AM) MALlRlS: what's that mean?
(12:14:57 AM) BJ: kernel version is outdated
(12:15:05 AM) MALlRlS: can I get an updated one?
(12:15:14 AM) BJ: not sure you are up to removing it from the kernel
(12:15:21 AM) MALlRlS: risky?
(12:15:33 AM) BJ: for me? no. for you? could be
(12:15:42 AM) MALlRlS: I see
(12:16:03 AM) BJ: humm
(12:16:08 AM) MALlRlS: so...there's no way of accessing my files through this kernel version?
(12:16:19 AM) BJ: cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep fuse
(12:16:24 AM) BJ: ^^ lets see
(12:16:42 AM) MALlRlS: not getting anything
(12:17:45 AM) BJ: cd /usr/src/linux
(12:17:49 AM) BJ: make menuconfig
(12:18:08 AM) BJ: go to file systems
(12:18:20 AM) BJ: star next to Filesystem in Userspace support?
(12:19:13 AM) MALlRlS: looking
(12:19:44 AM) MALlRlS: no
(12:19:45 AM) MALlRlS: M
(12:20:09 AM) BJ: ooh good
(12:20:12 AM) BJ: make it blank
(12:20:32 AM) MALlRlS: how?
(12:20:36 AM) BJ: space
(12:20:39 AM) MALlRlS: yeah
(12:20:41 AM) MALlRlS: just saw that, haha
(12:20:47 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:20:55 AM) BJ: esc out
(12:20:56 AM) BJ: save
(12:21:10 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:21:21 AM) BJ: make && make modules_install
(12:21:34 AM) MALlRlS: do I do this with linux on the end?
(12:21:46 AM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl linux # make menuconfig
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/mconf
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/inputbox.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/lxdialog.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/menubox.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/msgbox.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/textbox.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/util.o
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/yesno.o
HOSTLD scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/lxdialog
scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/i386/Kconfig
#
# configuration written to .config
#


*** End of Linux kernel configuration.
*** Execute 'make' to build the kernel or try 'make help'.

aiglxgl linux #
aiglxgl linux #

(12:21:49 AM) BJ: yes
(12:21:49 AM) MALlRlS: that's what I mean
(12:21:50 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:22:15 AM) MALlRlS: it's doing that
(12:22:18 AM) MALlRlS: by the way
(12:22:22 AM) MALlRlS: thank you very much for all this help
(12:22:30 AM) BJ: no problem
(12:23:33 AM) MALlRlS: there's two other things that I need that you may know the answer to right off the bat
(12:23:43 AM) MALlRlS: and that's 1) flash for this OS
(12:23:51 AM) MALlRlS: and 2) a good image viewer for this OS
(12:24:02 AM) MALlRlS: like the terminal commands
(12:24:09 AM) BJ: 1) netscape-flash
(12:24:16 AM) BJ: gnome or kde?
(12:24:19 AM) MALlRlS: gnome
(12:24:28 AM) BJ: then you want to use flash player 9
(12:24:48 AM) BJ: ooh
(12:24:52 AM) BJ: it got marked stable!
(12:25:00 AM) MALlRlS: 9 did?
(12:25:02 AM) BJ: yep
(12:25:07 AM) MALlRlS: cool
(12:25:09 AM) BJ: emerge -av netscape-flash
(12:25:13 AM) MALlRlS: okay
(12:25:29 AM) BJ: for 2 I don't really know
(12:25:33 AM) BJ: I use KDE :)
(12:25:49 AM) MALlRlS: I liked gnome, hah
(12:26:06 AM) MALlRlS: I got to be honest with you
(12:26:07 AM) BJ: I just can't wait for KDE 4
(12:26:17 AM) MALlRlS: this may sound weird but I'm having a lot more fun using Linux
(12:26:23 AM) MALlRlS: than like any other OS I've used
(12:26:39 AM) BJ: that's gentoo
(12:26:48 AM) BJ: Ubuntu is windows v2 with GCC
(12:27:01 AM) BJ: don't get me started on red hat
(12:27:02 AM) MALlRlS: hows that?
(12:27:10 AM) MALlRlS: how's Ubuntu?
(12:27:19 AM) BJ: totally noobist
(12:27:20 AM) BJ: ish
(12:27:34 AM) BJ: my mom uses it
(12:27:47 AM) MALlRlS: oh, I see
(12:28:49 AM) MALlRlS: my graphics hard had a hard time running this in 3D
(12:28:53 AM) MALlRlS: card*
(12:28:59 AM) BJ: compix?
(12:29:00 AM) BJ: z
(12:29:01 AM) MALlRlS: I would have to update all the drivers
(12:29:07 AM) MALlRlS: compix?
(12:29:14 AM) BJ: compiz
(12:29:21 AM) MALlRlS: what's that?
(12:29:30 AM) BJ: 3d desktop
(12:29:41 AM) MALlRlS: oh
(12:29:42 AM) MALlRlS: yeah
(12:30:07 AM) BJ: I always use the ~x86 drivers for nvidia
(12:30:09 AM) MALlRlS: I was getting awful mouse trails and slow down
(12:30:32 AM) MALlRlS: I have a radeon
(12:30:47 AM) BJ: rofl
(12:30:54 AM) MALlRlS: =/
(12:31:00 AM) MALlRlS: at the time I made my comp
(12:31:02 AM) BJ: ATI + linux = teh suck
(12:31:07 AM) MALlRlS: yeah, I can tell
(12:31:15 AM) MALlRlS: but... I'm happy with just 2d
(12:31:32 AM) MALlRlS: hopefully this will run just fine?
(12:31:43 AM) BJ: hummm?
(12:31:50 AM) MALlRlS: uhh, what I'm using?
(12:31:56 AM) MALlRlS: kororaa gnome in 2d?
(12:32:00 AM) MALlRlS: I haven't had any problems so far
(12:32:03 AM) BJ: yeah
(12:33:11 AM) MALlRlS: reason why I switched from Windows is because I'd been having some major problems
(12:33:15 AM) MALlRlS: registry was fucking up for no reason
(12:33:37 AM) MALlRlS: and also, major slow down when opening even the smallest files or browser
(12:33:46 AM) BJ: always fun
(12:33:55 AM) MALlRlS: yeah
(12:34:12 AM) MALlRlS: still going to use it a little and test with Linux and get used to it so I can learn the ropes
(12:42:53 AM) BJ: kernel ever finish compiling?
(12:43:01 AM) MALlRlS: still
(12:43:06 AM) BJ: wow...
(12:46:05 AM) MALlRlS: okay
(12:46:09 AM) MALlRlS: it finished
(12:46:24 AM) BJ: umount fuse
(12:46:25 AM) MALlRlS: sorry for going on/off
(12:46:30 AM) MALlRlS: just type that?
(12:46:34 AM) BJ: yep
(12:46:53 AM) BJ: er
(12:46:55 AM) BJ: no
(12:47:03 AM) BJ: I'm an idiot
(12:47:09 AM) MALlRlS: heh
(12:47:13 AM) BJ: rmmod fuse
(12:47:37 AM) MALlRlS: says module fuse is in use
(12:47:43 AM) MALlRlS: error
(12:47:51 AM) BJ: hummm
(12:47:53 AM) BJ: odd
(12:50:38 AM) MALlRlS: hmm
(12:50:39 AM) MALlRlS: what now?
(12:50:57 AM) BJ: I can't think of anything that could be using it
(12:51:01 AM) BJ: lsmod
(12:51:12 AM) BJ: what does that say?
(12:51:29 AM) MALlRlS: uhh
(12:51:47 AM) MALlRlS: Module Size Used by
fuse 41108 2
snd_pcm_oss 37152 0
snd_mixer_oss 14976 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4228 0
snd_seq_oss 29952 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6144 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 41808 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 7052 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
fan 5892 0
button 7696 0
battery 10756 0
ac 6276 0
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(12:53:12 AM) BJ: I don't see crap
(12:53:24 AM) MALlRlS: restarting do anything?
(12:53:42 AM) BJ: yep, the kernel version shouldn't get loaded
(12:53:47 AM) MALlRlS: okay then
(12:53:49 AM) MALlRlS: brb
(12:53:52 AM) BJ: ok
(12:56:27 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:56:29 AM) MALlRlS: so...
(12:56:37 AM) MALlRlS: what was it again?
(12:56:46 AM) BJ: grep fuse /var/log/messages
(12:56:52 AM) BJ: lets see what that says
(12:57:05 AM) MALlRlS: Mar 12 02:50:48 aiglxgl fuse init (API version 7.7)
Mar 12 03:09:02 aiglxgl fuse init (API version 7.7)

(12:57:16 AM) BJ: godd
(12:57:18 AM) BJ: good
(12:57:23 AM) BJ: 09 was long ago
(12:57:24 AM) MALlRlS: okay, shew
(12:57:25 AM) BJ: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
(12:57:48 AM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
FATAL: Module fuse not found.
fusermount: fuse device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
FUSE mount point creation error: No such file or directory
Unmounting /dev/sda1 ()
(12:57:51 AM) MALlRlS: =/
(12:58:00 AM) BJ: modprobe fuse
(12:58:07 AM) BJ: I know it going to fail
(12:58:09 AM) BJ: but try
(12:58:12 AM) MALlRlS: yeah
(12:58:33 AM) BJ: I know how to solve this, so don't worry... ;)
(12:58:40 AM) MALlRlS: shew :)
(12:59:04 AM) BJ: emerge --one-shot fuse
(12:59:08 AM) BJ: er
(12:59:08 AM) BJ: no
(12:59:14 AM) BJ: emerge -av fuse
(12:59:16 AM) BJ: should do it
(12:59:40 AM) MALlRlS: k
(12:59:52 AM) MALlRlS: done
(1:00:02 AM) BJ: modprobe fuse
(1:00:19 AM) MALlRlS: should I do this app-emulation/fuse or sys-fs/fuse?
(1:00:41 AM) BJ: sys-fs
(1:00:44 AM) MALlRlS: aiglxgl ~ # emerge -av fuse

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies /

!!! The short ebuild name "fuse" is ambiguous. Please specify
!!! one of the following fully-qualified ebuild names instead:

app-emulation/fuse
sys-fs/fuse

(1:00:48 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:01:03 AM) MALlRlS: so next thing should be:
(1:01:04 AM) MALlRlS: sys-fs/fuse
(1:01:16 AM) BJ: emerge -av sys-fs/fuse
(1:01:29 AM) MALlRlS: okay
(1:01:45 AM) MALlRlS: compiling
(1:02:27 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:02:27 AM) MALlRlS: done
(1:02:35 AM) BJ: modprobe fuse
(1:02:52 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:02:57 AM) MALlRlS: didn't respond with anything
(1:03:12 AM) BJ: w00t
(1:03:17 AM) MALlRlS: yay!
(1:03:21 AM) BJ: now mount
(1:03:29 AM) MALlRlS: okay, lead me through that again, haha
(1:03:39 AM) BJ: arrow up key
(1:03:42 AM) BJ: few times
(1:04:12 AM) MALlRlS: ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
?
(1:04:21 AM) BJ: hummm
(1:04:25 AM) MALlRlS: (just making sure, don't want to screw anything up at all)
(1:04:33 AM) BJ: yes
(1:04:45 AM) MALlRlS: oh my lord
(1:04:59 AM) BJ: that is bad?
(1:05:05 AM) MALlRlS: OH MY LORD YAY!!!
(1:05:07 AM) MALlRlS: it worked :D
(1:05:11 AM) BJ: w00t!!!
(1:05:23 AM) MALlRlS: *HUG KISS, MAKE LOVE*
(1:05:40 AM) BJ: the kernel thing made it harder, not sure if genkernel was used or not...
(1:05:48 AM) MALlRlS: I see
(1:06:04 AM) MALlRlS: so
(1:06:07 AM) MALlRlS: will it be like this forever?
(1:07:15 AM) BJ: when you restart it goes away
(1:07:18 AM) BJ: fstab time
(1:07:26 AM) BJ: reading the wiki part on fstab
(1:07:34 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:07:45 AM) BJ: I assume you want it automounted?
(1:07:51 AM) MALlRlS: yes
(1:08:06 AM) MALlRlS: so I can access it anytime I restart or anytime I want
(1:08:44 AM) BJ: meh, recompiling
(1:08:46 AM) BJ: echo sys-fs/ntfs3g suid>> /etc/portage/package.use
(1:08:55 AM) BJ: emerge -av ntfs3g
(1:09:01 AM) MALlRlS: input all this?
(1:09:07 AM) BJ: one line at a time, ye
(1:09:08 AM) BJ: s
(1:09:25 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:09:36 AM) MALlRlS: compiling
(1:10:11 AM) BJ: echo "/dev/sda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g users 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
(1:10:16 AM) BJ: after it finshes
(1:10:26 AM) MALlRlS: k
(1:10:37 AM) MALlRlS: and done
(1:10:42 AM) MALlRlS: and done
(1:10:50 AM) MALlRlS: all caught up to you
(1:14:33 AM) MALlRlS: you looking?
(1:18:57 AM) MALlRlS: there's also something else I wanted to ask
(1:25:04 AM) BJ: back
(1:25:05 AM) BJ: sorry
(1:25:11 AM) BJ: had to do something
(1:25:20 AM) MALlRlS: no prob
(1:25:39 AM) MALlRlS: what's the flash emerge?
(1:25:59 AM) BJ: emerge -av netscape-flash
(1:26:24 AM) MALlRlS: thank you :)
(1:27:08 AM) MALlRlS: one more...
(1:27:13 AM) MALlRlS: do you know an emerge for winamp?
(1:27:52 AM) BJ: uh
(1:27:55 AM) BJ: you can't?
(1:28:00 AM) BJ: note the win in winamp
(1:28:14 AM) MALlRlS: oh yeah hmm
(1:28:25 AM) BJ: lots of good media players for linux
(1:28:39 AM) MALlRlS: any recs?
(1:28:52 AM) BJ: total media player or just music?
(1:28:54 AM) MALlRlS: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Windows_equivalent_programs
(1:29:00 AM) MALlRlS: this is useful
(1:29:07 AM) BJ: quite
(1:29:38 AM) BJ: I'm not a music whore so I never use the library programs
(1:29:44 AM) BJ: amarok is good for that but is kde
(1:30:08 AM) BJ: for both I would use totem or vlc
(1:30:47 AM) MALlRlS: I do need VLC anyway
(1:30:57 AM) MALlRlS: I'd like ot use audacious
(1:31:02 AM) MALlRlS: I wouldn't know how to install anything from a site
(1:31:42 AM) BJ: http://gentoo-portage.com/Search?search=audacious
(1:31:48 AM) BJ: that site is your best friend
(1:34:05 AM) MALlRlS: emerge for VLC?
(1:34:12 AM) BJ: emerge -av vlc
(1:35:57 AM) MALlRlS: thank you
(1:38:13 AM) MALlRlS: Amarok looks like it'll do fine for me
(1:38:29 AM) BJ: gah, KDE libs
(1:38:41 AM) BJ: you shouldn't worry but I'm stupid like that
(1:38:55 AM) MALlRlS: KDE libs?
(1:39:30 AM) BJ: ooh never mind
(1:39:35 AM) BJ: it doesn't depend on kde
(1:39:41 AM) BJ: wait
(1:39:44 AM) BJ: yes, yes it does
(1:39:45 AM) MALlRlS: I think it was already on here
(1:39:52 AM) MALlRlS: haha
(1:39:59 AM) BJ: then it hurt much more
(1:40:09 AM) BJ: er
(1:40:12 AM) BJ: it's late
(1:40:19 AM) MALlRlS: oh, what about
(1:40:34 AM) MALlRlS: making this so where it's mounted everytime I log on?
(1:40:41 AM) BJ: /mnt/windows
(1:40:58 AM) MALlRlS: that it?
(1:41:42 AM) BJ: a folder :)
(1:41:49 AM) BJ: you should be able to go to it
(1:41:59 AM) BJ: in the file browser
(1:42:41 AM) MALlRlS: so just /mnt/windows and then...
(1:42:43 AM) MALlRlS: umm
(1:42:46 AM) MALlRlS: where it's at?
(1:43:10 AM) BJ: it's not in there?
(1:43:14 AM) MALlRlS: oh, it is
(1:43:48 AM) MALlRlS: I'm just saying to get the other partition each time I get on all I have to do is type /mnt/windows in terminal?
(1:44:10 AM) BJ: cd /mnt/window
(1:44:15 AM) BJ: or use the file browser
(1:44:54 AM) MALlRlS: k
(2:16:34 AM) MALlRlS: you still there?
(2:16:40 AM) BJ: yep
(2:16:46 AM) MALlRlS: umm
(2:16:52 AM) MALlRlS: I need an image viewer, heh
(2:16:58 AM) MALlRlS: and...I guess that'll be it
(2:17:06 AM) MALlRlS: Amarok is great, btw
(2:17:33 AM) MALlRlS: oh, there's one other thing
(2:17:34 AM) BJ: http://www.gnome.org/projects/eog/
(2:18:20 AM) BJ: emerge -av eog
(2:19:20 AM) MALlRlS: this may sound weird
(2:19:34 AM) MALlRlS: when I try and install VLC I keep getting this over and over after a certain point:
(2:19:36 AM) MALlRlS: ./bk-deps i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -c -o coredll_listbox.o -I.pch/wxprec_coredll -D__WXGTK__ -DWXUSINGDLL -DWXMAKINGDLL_CORE -DwxUSE_BASE=0 -fPIC -DPIC -DWX_PRECOMP -DNO_GCC_PRAGMA -DGTK_NO_CHECK_CASTS -Ilib/wx/include/gtk2-ansi-release-2.6 -I/var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3/work/wxPython-src-2.6.3.3/include -D_REENTRANT -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -march=i686 -pipe -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pthread -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/include/libgnomeprintui-2.2 -I/usr/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/directfb -I/usr/include/libpng12 -Wall -Wundef -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy /var/tmp/portage/x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3/work/wxPython-src-2.6.3.3/src/gtk/listbox.cpp

(2:19:48 AM) BJ: compiling...
(2:19:58 AM) BJ: expect that for up to an hour for vlc
(2:20:03 AM) MALlRlS: wow
(2:20:04 AM) MALlRlS: okay then
(2:20:08 AM) BJ: what cpu?
(2:20:09 AM) MALlRlS: I thought it was an error
(2:20:10 AM) MALlRlS: umm
(2:20:15 AM) MALlRlS: AMD Athlon ...
(2:20:19 AM) MALlRlS: 2.0 ghz
(2:20:27 AM) MALlRlS: 3200 I believe...
(2:20:29 AM) MALlRlS: I'm not sure
(2:20:42 AM) BJ: I have a core duo so it only takes me about 20 mins
(2:21:09 AM) MALlRlS: oh
(2:21:10 AM) MALlRlS: hmm
(2:21:15 AM) MALlRlS: I'm going to just put it on and go to bed
(2:21:21 AM) MALlRlS: I'm loving linux :D
(2:21:30 AM) BJ: it's fun
(2:21:33 AM) MALlRlS: one other thing
(2:21:38 AM) MALlRlS: if I want to use a file share program
(2:22:07 AM) MALlRlS: and I put a folder from that partition that I mounted, will the data go to that partition or will it be stored on here?
(2:22:39 AM) BJ: if you save there, there
(2:22:49 AM) MALlRlS: k
(2:23:12 AM) MALlRlS: I'm not exactly sure if I did the mounting right so it'll be there each time I get on
(2:24:00 AM) BJ: you will find out when you restart...
(2:24:23 AM) MALlRlS: I don't wanna have to go through all this again
(2:24:29 AM) MALlRlS: believe it or not, I'm not out to annoy you
(2:24:44 AM) MALlRlS: it's just my first day and it was the one where I had the most stuff to ask and figure out how to do
(2:25:26 AM) BJ: took me years to lean it all...
(2:25:42 AM) BJ: then again, I never just started using it...
(2:26:01 AM) MALlRlS: what'd you do?
(2:26:33 AM) BJ: just installed it on a old box
(2:26:44 AM) BJ: never stopped using windows
(2:26:49 AM) MALlRlS: ahh
(2:27:09 AM) BJ: I use it mostly as a server but I do have gentoo installed on this box
(2:27:54 AM) MALlRlS: but you mostly use Widows?
(2:27:58 AM) MALlRlS: Windows*
(2:28:48 AM) BJ: windows xp desktop, macbook laptop, few linux servers and one embedded linux thing
(2:29:14 AM) MALlRlS: what do you like best?
(2:29:29 AM) BJ: depends what I'm doing
(2:29:47 AM) BJ: if I'm running a server on windows I will find the nearest windows and jump out of it
(2:29:57 AM) BJ: window*
(2:30:16 AM) BJ: for servers, just give me gentoo and ssh
(2:30:33 AM) MALlRlS: yeah
(2:30:38 AM) MALlRlS: do you play any games on linux?
(2:30:49 AM) BJ: hah, not for more than two days
(2:30:55 AM) BJ: cube and tux racer get old
(2:31:23 AM) MALlRlS: XD
(2:31:35 AM) MALlRlS: I heard Counter-Strike isn't hard to get running for linux
(2:31:40 AM) BJ: 1.6?
(2:31:53 AM) MALlRlS: uhh, either
(2:31:57 AM) MALlRlS: Valve games in general
(2:32:09 AM) BJ: 1.6 should work fine, source still has some bugs
(2:32:27 AM) BJ: I'm waiting for steam to not suck first
(2:32:29 AM) BJ: almost there
(2:33:01 AM) MALlRlS: almost there for steam is another 5 years
(2:33:18 AM) BJ: I mean the wine support for it
(2:45:29 AM) MALlRlS: is archiving a file like creating a shortcut?
(2:45:38 AM) BJ: no...
(2:45:47 AM) BJ: like putting it in a zip
(2:46:01 AM) MALlRlS: oh, of course
(2:46:02 AM) MALlRlS: hmm
(2:46:14 AM) MALlRlS: I'm trying to find away to do shortcuts
(2:46:28 AM) BJ: not sure in the gui
(2:52:18 AM) MALlRlS: one more question then time for bed
(2:52:41 AM) MALlRlS: I'm trying to figure out how to set certain files to open automatically with programs
(2:53:06 AM) MALlRlS: like the pictures with gnome image viewer
(2:53:20 AM) BJ: gui stuff, no idea
(2:53:31 AM) MALlRlS: k
(2:53:38 AM) MALlRlS: thank you for all your help tonight :)
(2:53:55 AM) BJ: np
(2:54:04 AM) MALlRlS: catch ya later
(2:54:08 AM) BJ: night