[quote="imnotpc"]OK, how about this eveyone: - We agree to merge the Compiz-Extra and Beryl communities and code as an unnamed "composite community" - The Compiz core and the Beryl core are merged into a common package called compiz which is hosted on the fdo site. - We host the merged Compiz-Extra and non-core Beryl code on a neutral server. - We maintain separate forums and sites until we prune and merge the forums. - Once we have a united forum (which is really our communities) we discuss the development of new user focused site and a name for that site. - We consolidate the combined communities and code on the new site leaving the current compiz site to focus on the needs of the Compiz-Core developers. Jeff[/quote] this is a great plan. just to make sure everyone is talking about the same thing (because i saw some confusion about it in some posts): - Compiz-Core: a core of a WM. it isn't really a WM by it's own, because it isn't very usable without some plugins / decorators / etc. different WMs can be built around compiz-core, which means different sets of plugins. Compiz-Core doesn't provide any plugin by itself. - Compiz-Extras: a WM based around Compiz-Core. just set of plugins, decorators, and some other apps that are built around Compiz-Core, that togethere make a complete feature-full WM. - Merge: beryl sends patches of their changes to compiz-core. this is already WIP and is working quite well. no rename on this part, compiz stays compiz. On the extras part, beryl has made lots of changes, a lot more than it made in the core. on this part, beryl contributes a lot of code to the merged project (a lot more than compiz-extras), and it's not exactly the same "several patches" as it was with core. communities: the way i see it, after the separation of compiz and compiz-extras is complete, there will be no compiz community but compiz-extra community, because of the same reason why x.org doesn't have community, compiz will only be the core. of course, on this compiz-extras community people will talk about compiz, but most of the people people will talk about is extras (because extras is the WM, compiz is only the core). after compiz-extras and beryl merge, the communities will be merged together into the new name that is chosen for compiz-extra.