[quote="iznogood"][quote] there will be no compiz community but compiz-extra community [/quote] I can not see any reason for this to happen, this is still about compiz. [/quote] because for users, there will be nothing to talk about compiz, as it isn't usable without extras. [quote="iznogood"] The only reason that compiz-extra was created was because people did not want to touch the core, but leave it on David [/quote] i disagree. compiz-extras was made for separating the core and the WM. as i said, different WMs can be built on top of that core, and extras will jsut be the first one to do that (and we all hope not the last one :wink: ). [quote="iznogood"] A package with 30+ plugins is an overkill i believe, after all very few are actually making a difference (i personally use ony 2, animation and trailfocus) Ubuntu for example has gandalfn who is packaging for them and i believe that for their users sake they will at the least filter the plugins before they include them in their repos. Imagine after say 2 years to have 100 plugins, it will not look very pretty I would like to hear what people think, and i hope that there hasn't been any final decission before we clear everything here[/quote] i agree that a package with 30 plugins will be ugly, but that doesn't mean those 30 plugins can't be part of one project. the new project can do packages like plugins-base and plugins-extras or something like that, but again, all the plugins are maintained under the same merged project.