(9:34:43 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: it makes more sense, than just poof something comes from nothing
(9:35:06 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: science and life have shown a natural cause and effect system
(9:35:15 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: something comes before something else
(9:35:21 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ok so earth can't just appear and god can
(9:35:30 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: beats me
(9:35:49 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ok well you can't logically come to the god conclusiomn
(9:36:10 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: call it whatever you want
(9:36:16 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: god would have to be more complex than everything he created
(9:36:31 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: you're saying he just fucking appeared?
(9:36:33 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: but seriusly ask yourself, HOW did all of this that is the universe suddenly appear out of thin air?
(9:36:40 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: then ask, where did t he thin air come from before that?
(9:36:41 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: HOW did god suddenly appear
(9:36:52 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: you're just back stepping
(9:37:17 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: if your argument for belief is earth can't just come into existance, any counter argument will have to involve god coming to existance
(9:37:23 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: not earth
(9:37:34 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: everything
(9:37:43 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ok it really doesn't make a difference
(9:37:58 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: how was the space everything consumes made prior to the big bang is what gets me
(9:38:46 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: it just doesnt make any sense for something to be in exsistance without a purpose, or reason
(9:38:58 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: uhh dude the solar system is what
(9:39:02 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: 13 billion years old
(9:39:06 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: do you realize how much time that is
(9:39:10 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: for shit to happen
(9:39:17 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: yeah its a long time... no shit
(9:39:24 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: but im talking about the first .00000001 second of time
(9:39:29 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: not the 13billion years after
(9:39:33 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: correct 
(9:39:51 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: nobody knows 
(9:39:57 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: and nobody can really have a sound theory
(9:40:01 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: and we may never know
(9:40:08 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: all i know is making shit up isn't helping
(9:40:13 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: science has no explanation, not even a theory for HOW it came to be
(9:41:27 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: i just dont see something as big as what we know the universe to be, just appeared out of thin air
(9:41:50 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: nobody does, not just science.
(9:41:53 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: mabe its not a god at all, mabe we really are in marbles being played with by aliens like in MIB lol
(9:42:10 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: either way, i believe in something that created all of this around us from nothing
(9:42:13 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: aliens is honestly more plausable than god.
(9:42:36 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: aliens could be defined as god i guess
(9:42:36 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: i agree 
(9:42:36 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ;S
(9:42:49 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: i wasn't joking that is actually possible ;P
(9:42:50 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: by god i didnt mean all powerful, christian god lol
(9:42:53 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: but highly doubtful
(9:43:01 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: i meant something higher up, that controls or is capable of creating
(9:43:36 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: to me, it makes 1000x more sense than "Poof, particles are invented by a non exsistant entity"
(9:44:07 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: again...where did the higher power come from....SOMETHING eventually had to come from nothing
(9:44:13 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: your arguemtn is a fallacy =\
(9:44:18 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: lol
(9:44:22 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: lol you know it
(9:44:41 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: again, mabe god is an alien from different dimensions
(9:44:46 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: and created this one from scratch
(9:45:05 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: who the fuck knows, im just saying it makes more sense that something created it, then it just magicly appeared like jacks beanstock lol
(9:45:05 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: SOMETHING
(9:45:06 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: HAD
(9:45:07 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: TO
(9:45:08 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: COME
(9:45:08 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: FROM
(9:45:10 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: NOTHING
(9:45:13 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: no mattewr who created us
(9:45:16 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: don't you see that
(9:45:17 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ffs
(9:45:37 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: no i dont, not by our current methods of science
(9:45:38 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: I'll never understand theists
(9:45:42 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: its not possible for something to come from nothing
(9:45:43 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: shh for one second
(9:45:45 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: answer me this
(9:46:00 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: why is it MORE plausable to you that "god" came from nothing rather than earth
(9:46:01 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: why?
(9:46:41 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: cause god could be just a non materialized body
(9:46:47 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: the earth and universe are mattere
(9:46:51 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: matter that HAD to come from something
(9:47:10 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: thats why i just cant buy into the magic bean theory
(9:47:18 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: cause even the magic beans came from somewherez
(9:47:35 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: again i ask
(9:47:45 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ok you know
(9:47:50 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: non materialized body is invalid
(9:47:55 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: because how did he create the material
(9:48:24 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: something came from nothing...just admit it
(9:48:43 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: nobody knows how it happened
(9:48:47 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: but your argument is logically flawed
(9:48:59 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: as is yours though
(9:49:00 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: both are...
(9:49:12 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: No, mine is logical
(9:49:14 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: i'm admitting
(9:49:16 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: nobody knows
(9:49:17 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: including me
(9:49:19 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: how is that glawed
(9:49:21 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: flawed*
(9:49:23 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: it can't be
(9:49:28 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: just face it
(9:49:40 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: something came from nothing and it's not more plausable that god made it
(9:49:51 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: so both are just as likely then lol
(9:49:54 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: u just said it
(9:50:12 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: whats the argument then? you believe one equally believable scenario, i believe another
(9:50:21 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: ...i'm saying I don't know.  period.  you're saying god did it - a suggestion that's frankly absured
(9:50:31 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: i don't believe anything
(9:50:35 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: nobody has a clue!
(9:50:37 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: no, i just said thats my guess
(9:50:49 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: a guess based on nothing
(9:50:54 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: if i had to choose between the 2, to me thats the more likely of the 2 equally obsurd theories
(9:51:32 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: neither are theories
(9:51:35 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: let's get that sorted asap
(9:51:54 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: you're literally MAKING shit up 
(9:51:55 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: ill bb in a bit, i need food
(9:52:08 PM) aidenag@lolZorz.comz0r: as are you lol. tty in a bit
(9:52:10 PM) th3rub3x@lolZorz.comz0r/Gaim: you're solving one complex problem with an even more complex problem