niklas: and hope the rest of the world follows so you still get applications.. [03:46am] johnnowak: but i don't have the time or inclination to built my own universe over the next 40 years [03:48am] johnnowak: there is a middle ground between persistence and nothing.. some form of object serialization [03:48am] johnnowak: so you can write code incrementally and then write the objects to disk in a human-readable form [03:50am] johnnowak: i could create a new class (or whatever), add methods, test them, fix bugs, and all that in the interpreter... and when done, just serialize that object and get human-readable source code, properly formatted and all that.. perhaps just a bit of tidying up and comments to be added by the programmer afterwards