Session Start: Sun Apr 15 21:03:19 2007 Session Ident: #Peace 21.03.19 · Join: alexis [alexis@gb:alexis:204.8.220.XXX] 21.03.19 · Mode: irc.glowingbridge.org +nt 21.03.19 ·324· Channel mode is +nt 21.03.19 ·329· Created at 4/15/07 09:02:27 21.03.20 ·341· Fiz #Peace 21.03.20 12-0irc.glowingbridge.org:4@#Peace12- 0,02alexis invited Fiz into the channel. 21.03.22 ·341· Qjimbo #Peace 21.03.22 12-0irc.glowingbridge.org:4@#Peace12- 0,02alexis invited Qjimbo into the channel. 21.03.23 · Mode: alexis +s 21.03.27 ·401· quickman No such nick/channel 21.03.29 · Join: Fiz [Fiz@gb-492466A5.dial1.stlouis1.level3.net] 21.03.32 <04@alexis> sec. 21.03.34 · Mode: alexis +o Fiz 21.03.37 · Join: Qjimbo [~Qjimbo@gb:qjimbo:xxxxx.corenetworks.net] 21.03.40 Hey 21.03.43 · Mode: alexis +o Qjimbo 21.05.04 <04@alexis> Alright. 21.05.36 <04@alexis> fiz, list your arguments against me having access. 21.05.39 <04@alexis> Please number them. 21.05.49 <04@Fiz> okay 21.05.52 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client connecting on port 6667: Quickman (~Thomas_@cpc1-oxfd8-0-0-cust331.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) [clients] 21.05.53 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Failed OPER attempt by Quickman (~Thomas_@cpc1-oxfd8-0-0-cust331.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) using UID Quickman [FAILEDAUTH] 21.05.56 <04@alexis> wait 21.05.58 ·341· Quickman #Peace 21.05.58 12-0irc.glowingbridge.org:4@#Peace12- 0,02alexis invited Quickman into the channel. 21.06.02 · Join: Quickman [~Thomas_@gb-9921EA7B.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] 21.06.03 · Mode: alexis +o Quickman 21.06.04 · Mode: alexis +i 21.06.11 <04@alexis> Quickman: We're just starting. 21.06.23 <04@alexis> Fiz is about to list her arguments against my presence. 21.06.26 <04@alexis> Continue. 21.06.42 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** OperOverride -- Quickman (~Thomas_@cpc1-oxfd8-0-0-cust331.oxfd.cable.ntl.com) MODE #glowingbridge +oaq Quickman Quickman Quickman 21.08.05 * @alexis starts knitting 21.09.23 <04@alexis> fiz..? - 21.09.26 ·311· Fiz is Fiz@gb-492466A5.dial1.stlouis1.level3.net * Fiz 21.09.26 ·379· Fiz is using modes +iowghsxWvp +kcfFjveGnNqSs 21.09.26 ·378· Fiz is connecting from *@dialup-4.245.1.113.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net 4.245.1.113 21.09.26 ·319· Fiz on @#Peace #glowingbridge 21.09.26 ·312· Fiz on irc.glowingbridge.org (GlowingBridge.org IRC Server) 21.09.26 ·313· Fiz is an IRC Operator 21.09.26 ·310· Fiz is available for help. 21.09.26 ·317· Fiz 3mins 36secs, Sun Apr 15 21:02:18 2007 seconds idle, signon time 21.09.26 ·318· fiz End of /WHOIS list. - 21.09.55 <04@Fiz> im typing hold on 21.14.13 * @alexis finishes her pillowcase 21.14.18 * @alexis tries it on 21.14.42 <04@Fiz> my top 10 reasons: 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 1. jim never mentioned the notion to me 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 2. giving yourself admin power on GB without permission yesterday 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 3. hijacking glownet yesterday 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 4. abusing your power on cultnet/s2bserv as mentioned by many members 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 5. being generally annoying on cultnet/s2bserv as mentioned by many members 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 6. not really being able to rehash the server well as mentioned by many members 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 7. having to switch ircds constantly on cultnet/s2bserv due to many bugs (scarlet and unreal) as mentioned by many members 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 8. being manipulative 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 9. being pushy 21.14.43 <04@Fiz> 10. and now motioning to remove my admin privs, thanks to shade for letting me know this 21.15.07 <04@alexis> please wait while i type my responses. 21.16.22 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client connecting on port 6667: Saz|Laptop (~Sazpaimon@pool-71-107-80-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) [clients] 21.16.25 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Saz|Laptop (~Sazpaimon@pool-71-107-80-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) did a /whois on you. - 21.16.57 *** Saz|Laptop!~Sazpaimon@gb-727990AElsancadsl-wverizonnet killed by Quickman (any way the wind blows~) - 21.16.57 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client exiting: Saz|Laptop (~Sazpaimon@pool-71-107-80-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) [[irc.glowingbridge.org] Local kill by Quickman (any way the wind blows~)] 21.17.13 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client connecting on port 6667: Saz|Laptop (~Sazpaimon@pool-71-107-80-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) [clients] 21.18.24 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client exiting: paul (~no@134.220.190.154) [Ping timeout] 21.19.09 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client exiting: Saz|Laptop (~Sazpaimon@pool-71-107-80-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) [Quit: Leaving] 21.21.09 04-00irc.glowingbridge.org4- 00,05*** Notice -- Client connecting on port 6667: paul (~no@134.220.190.154) [clients] 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 1. I had nothing to do with Jim mentioning anything to anyone. Whether or not you need to be notified about what Jim does on his own personal server is another issue, especially since you're a forum admin, and I intend on making close to 0 posts on the forum. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 2. I didn't give myself "admin power". I made myself an "Evil girl" (e.g. mgroup 9). I changed one value, which would have already been set if the SQL database had been forked several hours after it was. This again has already been discussed between Qjimbo and I. I already apologized to all involved parties for any "scare" i may have created, and pretty much everyone involved has quote-unquote "forgiven me". 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 3. Define hijacking. I joined the channel, opered up, talked for about an hour, and went to sleep. I updated unrealircd.conf using access which i had previously had from when I was an IRC admin on the same server just weeks prior. Nothing changed between me adminning then and me adminning now, except the name of the community. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 4. I have no clue as to what you're talking about on this one. I'm sure if I was abusing power, my access to s2beta would have been removed. On the contrary, I fought several cases of oper abuse by drx, and my quick actions prevented him from using /sajoin floods on users. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 5. Being generally annoying? I really can't comment on this since this is the matter of an opinion. One which definately isn't yours, considering I've never seen you before. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 6. Again, I have no idea what this means. "Not being able to rehash the server?". I can rehash a server quite easily. Type "/rehash" and hit enter. Or i can also do it from the console "./unreal rehash". Or if i want to be really l33t, i can rehash the server by issuing a SIGHUP to ircd. And even if i didn't know how to rehash the server (which makes no sense), what does that have to do with this debate? 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 7. What does this have to do with Glowing Bridge? Switching ircd's was something that went on for 2 days and was the result of Sazpaimon willingly attempting to use software that was in beta and had never been used on a network before. Again, I don't see what this has to do with glowingbridge, or even s2beta/cultnet other than the week we used scarlet. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 8. Of? Who? Clearly you're the only whose business it would be as to my manner of speaking with, and i'm pretty sure i haven't attempted to manipulate you recently. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 9. Again.. you cite no example to back up your claim. 21.25.53 <04@alexis> 10. I was merely suggesting that I have just as much reason to be against your access as you do against mine, if not more when we factor in competance and experience. 21.25.59 <04@alexis> thanks. 21.28.02 <04@Fiz> 8 and 9 example, you sayign that youre gonna make a split of glowing bridges and have me and jim sit by ourself and wallow in pity or whatever 21.28.57 <04@Fiz> and thats all im gonna say to you 21.29.04 <04@alexis> Actually i never said that. I proposed a solution of creating a parallel community, but also noted that since the majority of the users on the IRC server support my presence, my half would probably be where they would wind up, since the only people "against me" in recent polls is you and Shade. 21.29.13 <04@Fiz> i have logs you dumb cunt 21.29.17 <04@Fiz> dont fucking switch words around me 21.29.23 <04@Fiz> im tired of dealing with this 21.29.31 <04@Fiz> YOU SHOULD NOT 21.29.32 <04@Fiz> HAVE FUCKING 21.29.33 <04@Fiz> ACCESS 21.29.36 <04@alexis> Why? 21.29.43 <04@Fiz> i gave al lthe reasons there 21.29.50 <04@Fiz> and if youre gonna go "well that has little to do with anything" 21.29.52 <04@alexis> You seem to only be able to cite things "as mentioned by members". 21.29.53 <04@Fiz> then you can suck my asshole 21.30.03 <04@Fiz> this shouldnt be a discussion between you and me 21.30.07 <04@Fiz> this should between me and jim 21.30.10 <04@Qjimbo> well 21.30.12 <04@alexis> You can't seem to give a single concreate example of when I have screwed up on GB. 21.30.19 <04@Fiz> you uh 21.30.21 <04@alexis> You can't produce any evidence as to my incompetance. 21.30.21 <04@Qjimbo> more people seem against the idea now than at first 21.30.25 <04@alexis> Other than "you can't rehash a server" 21.30.36 <04@Fiz> i dont know, its just what people at #s2beta said 21.30.47 <04@alexis> Why are you getting your opinion of me from #s2beta? 21.30.55 <04@alexis> Is that how you form opinions of people? 21.30.58 <04@Fiz> NO OPINION 21.31.05 <04@Fiz> THEY AR REASONS 21.31.07 <04@Fiz> NOT OPINIONS 21.31.14 <04@Qjimbo> me, paul, jjftails, kles, and dhz are opposed as well 21.31.29 <04@alexis> Qjimbo: And i could find another 7 members that aren't opposed. 21.31.35 <04@alexis> What's the point? 21.31.39 <04@Fiz> this shouldnt be a fuckign vote 21.31.44 <04@alexis> She's right. 21.31.44 <04@Qjimbo> because there IS opposition 21.31.54 <04@Qjimbo> if a decision has any oppposition that suggests somethings wrong 21.32.01 <04@alexis> Ok. 21.32.07 <04@alexis> I oppose Fiz being an admin. 21.32.09 <04@alexis> Something's wrong. 21.32.10 <04@alexis> remove her. 21.32.11 <04@Qjimbo> especially with a large selection of members 21.32.15 <04@alexis> Is that how your logic goes? 21.32.17 <04@Qjimbo> thats one person =p 21.32.20 <04@Fiz> Blow me 21.32.23 <04@alexis> Thats how my opposition began. 21.32.28 <04@alexis> I'm sure i can also convince people. 21.32.33 <04@alexis> Through random screaming in the channel. 21.32.47 <04@alexis> The fact of the matter is that Shade will get people to hate me. 21.32.50 <04@alexis> And I can get people to hate Fiz. 21.32.54 <04@alexis> That doesn't solve anything. 21.32.59 <04@Fiz> i can get people to hate me myself, thank you 21.33.02 <04@alexis> What we're trying to do is find a way where can exist peacefully. 21.33.03 <04@Fiz> i dont need your help 21.33.10 <04@Fiz> and shade hardly has any say in anything 21.33.12 <04@Fiz> no one really listens to him 21.33.16 <04@Qjimbo> the only way this is going to end, is if I deny you access 21.33.29 <04@Qjimbo> because I'm not having like, a large percentage of the community unhappy 21.33.34 <04@Qjimbo> witha decision 21.33.43 <04@alexis> whatever. 21.33.54 <04@alexis> Thanks for breaking your promise. 21.33.55 <04@alexis> again. 21.33.58 12-0(ezbounce)12- 0,02Connection to server lost. Session Close: Sun Apr 15 21:37:30 2007