21:48 < abaddon> any idea why could established packets inside a openvz VPS running shorewall on debian etch wont match the established rule but will match INVALID 21:48 < abaddon> established as in outgoing tcp via netcat or ping, im seeing them in counters going to the INVALID definition, and not matching the established rule 21:49 < abaddon> also shorewall doesnt say any error on start, the host system runs same config so all iptables modules are available