meral capacity to 'see' sound is about as close as I've gotten to a synesthetic experience. C:\>echo 980 1000 The band is also very interested in what is called three-dimen sional sound. For some time, Maynard and I talked about Synesthesia-the perceptu al sensation produced when a stimulus experienced by one sense is experienced in another, as when the hearing of a certain sound induces the visualization of a certain colour or geometric shape. I recalled listening to 'Schism' and noting h ow the metre of Maynard's lyrical cadence was offset from the bass and drums in certain parts as to invoke a type of sharp-sidedness. I do not actually 'see' a geometric shape before me. But I do get a sense of what he meant. This ephemeral capacity to 'see' sound is about as close as I've gotten to a synesthetic exper ience. 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=980 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1010 MK: "When we compose songs, we start with the rhythms and melodies first. Each of us contributes instrumentally to a single song. And the n I go away and work on the lyrics". C:\>echo 990 1010 MK: "When we compose songs, we start with the rhythms and melo dies first. Each of us contributes instrumentally to a single song. And then I g o away and work on the lyrics". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=990 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1020 I have mentioned in class that the members of Tool displa y a good deal of discipline in their creative capacity. Their songs are not simp ly coincidental accidents but carefully developed arrangements based on themes a nd influences from a variety of sources. The layers of many of their songs are n ot unlike recognizable movements that you would hear in classical musical compos itions. C:\>echo 1000 1020 I have mentioned in class that the members of Tool display a good deal of discipline in their creative capacity. Their songs are not simply c oincidental accidents but carefully developed arrangements based on themes and i nfluences from a variety of sources. The layers of many of their songs are not u nlike recognizable movements that you would hear in classical musical compositio ns. 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1000 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1030 10. In "Reflection" you talk a good deal about losing or getting rid of the ego in order to attain some further end. An end of enlightenm ent perhaps? What is it about the ego that prevents or in some way, blocks one f rom attaining some greater end? Or does it even make sense to speak in terms of lesser and greater ends? C:\>echo 1010 1030 10. In "Reflection" you talk a good deal about losing or gett ing rid of the ego in order to attain some further end. An end of enlightenment perhaps? What is it about the ego that prevents or in some way, blocks one from attaining some greater end? Or does it even make sense to speak in terms of less er and greater ends? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1010 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1040 MK: "If you look at the cycles of the moon, it starts as a thin crescent and then gradually waxes until it becomes full; then it graduall y wanes back into another crescent and then it is gone. The moon reflects sunlig ht like humans reflect information. We wax and wane and when we become full moon s, our egos are full. We think we have this knowledge when in fact, the informat ion we have is pure. And how it reflects or shines off of us, is something we ta ke credit for as though the moon could take credit for its brightness when, in f act, it is only reflecting light from the sun. We have to understand that we are ego-less just as the moon is without light. It and we are simply reflectors. Th e ego is not responsible for the information. It can reflect the information in creative ways, but the information itself is pure". C:\>echo 1020 1040 MK: "If you look at the cycles of the moon, it starts as a th in crescent and then gradually waxes until it becomes full; then it gradually wa nes back into another crescent and then it is gone. The moon reflects sunlight l ike humans reflect information. We wax and wane and when we become full moons, o ur egos are full. We think we have this knowledge when in fact, the information we have is pure. And how it reflects or shines off of us, is something we take c redit for as though the moon could take credit for its brightness when, in fact, it is only reflecting light from the sun. We have to understand that we are ego -less just as the moon is without light. It and we are simply reflectors. The eg o is not responsible for the information. It can reflect the information in crea tive ways, but the information itself is pure". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1020 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1050 11. When my students heard we were going to talk, they wa nted to say hello. Would you like a question from a student? C:\>echo 1030 1050 11. When my students heard we were going to talk, they wanted to say hello. Would you like a question from a student? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1030 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1060 MK: "Sure". C:\>echo 1040 1060 MK: "Sure". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1040 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1070 We have studied Socrates, Plato and the ancient Skeptics a fair bit, so this next question has to do with the concept of justice/injustic e. Tim Fitzjohn wanted me to ask you: "What do you think is/are the greatest inj ustice(s) occurring in the world right now?" C:\>echo 1050 1070 We have studied Socrates, Plato and the ancient Skeptics a fa ir bit, so this next question has to do with the concept of justice/injustice. T im Fitzjohn wanted me to ask you: "What do you think is/are the greatest injusti ce(s) occurring in the world right now?" 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1050 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1080 MK: "Religion, TV, and media. These have powerful effects on the way people see the world. When we're on the tour bus travelling from cit y to city, we have a Play Station 2. When I play [a game called] Quake 3 for a f ew days, I find it impedes with my ability to relate to people. So media in its various forms does, to some degree, affect the way in which we interact with one another. I have to deliberately separate myself from this game and the real wor ld. Lately, the media has turned us into suspicious Americans. The media has gen erated enough fear to allow congress to give the cops permission to check our co lons whenever they want to". C:\>echo 1060 1080 MK: "Religion, TV, and media. These have powerful effects on the way people see the world. When we're on the tour bus travelling from city to city, we have a Play Station 2. When I play [a game called] Quake 3 for a few d ays, I find it impedes with my ability to relate to people. So media in its vari ous forms does, to some degree, affect the way in which we interact with one ano ther. I have to deliberately separate myself from this game and the real world. Lately, the media has turned us into suspicious Americans. The media has generat ed enough fear to allow congress to give the cops permission to check our colons whenever they want to". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1060 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1090 This is going to be an interesting world in the next five or ten years. C:\>echo 1070 1090 This is going to be an interesting world in the next five or ten years. 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1070 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1100 MK: "Yes, we just have to make sure everything comes true by 2010". C:\>echo 1080 1100 MK: "Yes, we just have to make sure everything comes true by 2010". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1080 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1110 12. Another student has done considerable work with some biographical material (Martin German)-most of which I haven't yet had time to po ur over. But the information relating to the books the band reads I found intere sting. It says here that you are reading "The Egyptian Book of the Dead". Is thi s true. And is it a first edition copy from the British Museum? I was just at th e British Museum in June and saw the Egyptian exhibit. Why the interest in this particular culture? C:\>echo 1090 1110 12. Another student has done considerable work with some biog raphical material (Martin German)-most of which I haven't yet had time to pour o ver. But the information relating to the books the band reads I found interestin g. It says here that you are reading "The Egyptian Book of the Dead". Is this tr ue. And is it a first edition copy from the British Museum? I was just at the Br itish Museum in June and saw the Egyptian exhibit. Why the interest in this part icular culture? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1090 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1120 MK: "I find a lot of this type of stuff interesting. I'm into a lot of different things, including sci-fi events". C:\>echo 1100 1120 MK: "I find a lot of this type of stuff interesting. I'm into a lot of different things, including sci-fi events". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1100 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1130 Like Area 51, Roswell, New Mexico, or more 2001? C:\>echo 1110 1130 Like Area 51, Roswell, New Mexico, or more 2001? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1110 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1140 MK: "Yea, I love all that stuff; they're very entertainin g". C:\>echo 1120 1140 MK: "Yea, I love all that stuff; they're very entertaining". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1120 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1150 But L. Ron Hubbard too? C:\>echo 1130 1150 But L. Ron Hubbard too? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1130 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1160 MK: "Well not literally, but in itself I find it interest ing". C:\>echo 1140 1160 MK: "Well not literally, but in itself I find it interesting" . 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1140 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1170 So you don't take this stuff too seriously? C:\>echo 1150 1170 So you don't take this stuff too seriously? 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1150 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1180 MK: "No. But it sure is fun to think about". C:\>echo 1160 1180 MK: "No. But it sure is fun to think about". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1160 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1190 The members of Tool, I was told, rarely take themselves s eriously in terms of beliefs. They acknowledge a complex world and are having fu n looking at the various ways in which we can understand it. C:\>echo 1170 1190 The members of Tool, I was told, rarely take themselves serio usly in terms of beliefs. They acknowledge a complex world and are having fun lo oking at the various ways in which we can understand it. 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1170 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1200 MK: "I have very much enjoyed the last ten years of my li fe and how much people enjoy what Tool is doing. If people can take something po sitive from Tool's music and use this for self-reflection and discovery, great. But I'm not going to preach to people about what they ought to do". C:\>echo 1180 1200 MK: "I have very much enjoyed the last ten years of my life a nd how much people enjoy what Tool is doing. If people can take something positi ve from Tool's music and use this for self-reflection and discovery, great. But I'm not going to preach to people about what they ought to do". 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1180 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>call :ADDNUMS 1210 At this point, I thanked him very much and wished him wel l. He did the same. C:\>echo 1190 1210 At this point, I thanked him very much and wished him well. H e did the same. 1>>tempfile C:\>set /a counter=1190 + 10 C:\>goto :eof C:\>ren tool.txt tool.txt.orig A duplicate file name exists, or the file cannot be found. C:\>ren tempfile tool.txt A duplicate file name exists, or the file cannot be found. C:\>endlocal C:\>goto :eof C:\>