(08:00:00 PM) #evillaughter: The topic for #evillaughter is: Congratz Clint, Crystal, Cold_Fire, and Brain and Mrs Brain || http://www.roflcat.com AND http://www.icanhascheezburger.com || Ubuntu Release Party! Release the Feisty Fawns! | Be genuine in everything you say, think and do. Have a Nice Day. :)
(08:00:00 PM) Gauss: ScreaminIke: don't hate me cuz i'm n00biful.
(08:00:00 PM) #evillaughter: mode (+o ScreaminIke) by ChanServ
(08:06:40 PM) Elec: hey Ike, be careful not to ross yourself!
(08:10:11 PM) owler: ross: check engrish
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(08:14:57 PM) owler: OWLER: you have the kettle on!
(08:14:59 PM) Incit[Sully]us: Engrish
(08:15:10 PM) Incit[Sully]us: I thought they banned that book years ago?
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(08:18:00 PM) Snoop [Snooper@chat-solu-3F68461A.detir.qld.gov.au] entered the room.
(08:18:05 PM) Snoop: Hey Runge.
(08:18:14 PM) RungeKutta: hey snoop~
(08:18:20 PM) RungeKutta: long time no see dude
(08:18:26 PM) Snoop: Can you invite SnoopTafe so that I can join when I get home.
(08:18:27 PM) Snoop: Yeah I know.
(08:18:36 PM) Snoop: But i'm into a new arg - The Human Pet.
(08:18:39 PM) RungeKutta: sure
(08:18:41 PM) Snoop: It's going a bit slow though.
(08:18:45 PM) Snoop: Cheers.
(08:18:50 PM) RungeKutta: heh
(08:18:56 PM) RungeKutta: I've heard of it
(08:19:01 PM) ***Elec invites everyone to go ross themselves
(08:19:02 PM) RungeKutta: but I dont know anything about it
(08:19:11 PM) RungeKutta: hah I'll never live that down
(08:19:13 PM) Hojo: since when did this channel become invite only? :)
(08:19:14 PM) Snoop: It's pretty cool actually
(08:19:17 PM) owler: slow can be good
(08:19:20 PM) RungeKutta: its not
(08:19:25 PM) Snoop: It works through video's posted on YouTube and stuff.
(08:19:33 PM) Snoop: No, this is like two weeks and no word.
(08:19:35 PM) RungeKutta: I just invited snoop here because he forgot about us ;_;
(08:19:36 PM) Hojo: heh, i just keep hearing little dings of invitation 
(08:19:38 PM) Snoop: That kind of slow - not fun.
(08:19:43 PM) Snoop: I didn't forget about you.
(08:19:45 PM) Snoop: I'm at Tafe silly.
(08:19:49 PM) Snoop: IE Uni.
(08:20:00 PM) RungeKutta: oh yea you graduated
(08:20:01 PM) RungeKutta: I forgets
(08:20:08 PM) Snoop: Heh.
(08:20:12 PM) Snoop: Graduated at 16 baby. ^^
(08:20:23 PM) RungeKutta: I graduated when I was 17
(08:20:34 PM) RungeKutta: but then us and australia have different school systems
(08:20:42 PM) Elec: I graduated when I was 46
(08:20:50 PM) Snoop: Well I turned 17 after I graduated.
(08:20:55 PM) Hojo: I'm still in school, and I'm 73
(08:21:00 PM) RungeKutta: base -12x9keygnome12orange?
(08:21:20 PM) RungeKutta: I gotta go eat, bbiaf
(08:21:20 PM) Snoop: What really sucks is that this is just an intro course to get me into a six years master course in Music Composition
(08:21:25 PM) Snoop: At the Brisbane Conservatorium.
(08:21:29 PM) Snoop: Alrighty Runge.
(08:21:42 PM) RungeKutta: just wanted to invite you in here before I did
(08:21:43 PM) RungeKutta: heh
(08:21:50 PM) Hojo: dine and dash eh?
(08:22:45 PM) Snoop: Heh.
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(08:34:01 PM) Gauss: Addlepated: Get off my lawn!
(08:58:26 PM) ***Snoop le yawns.
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(09:26:12 PM) Gauss: Addlepated: Get off my lawn!
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(09:27:14 PM) AnthraX101 [asdf@chat-solu-2469C2B4.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] entered the room.
(09:31:32 PM) AnthraX101: RungeKutta: Shut up.
(09:38:52 PM) Me: dammit
(09:43:35 PM) ***Snoop pokes Runge.
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(10:03:40 PM) #evillaughter: mode (+o Addlepated) by ChanServ
(10:03:41 PM) Gauss: Addlepated: Get off my lawn!
(10:32:51 PM) WiSH [nicole@chat-solu-8005F34E.c3-0.tlg-ubr5.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] entered the room.
(10:32:51 PM) #evillaughter: mode (+o WiSH) by ChanServ
(10:42:55 PM) JustLurking: yawn
(10:44:02 PM) WiSH: totally
(10:44:32 PM) Sin_Vraal: hello wishy
(10:45:00 PM) Me: hey all
(10:45:12 PM) WiSH: helly sinny!
(10:45:12 PM) WiSH: hello even
(10:45:25 PM) Me: ... kind of an ironic typo
(10:45:45 PM) WiSH: hah
(10:46:04 PM) WiSH: who is KSG?
(10:47:45 PM) AnthraX101: Some guy.
(10:47:48 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: HI
(10:47:58 PM) WiSH: some guy
(10:48:00 PM) WiSH: hm.
(10:48:02 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: I got into arg's about the exact same time ksg did
(10:48:07 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: we learned args together
(10:48:10 PM) WiSH: oic
(10:48:20 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: if we were in the matrix, he would be called my brother
(10:48:24 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: or maybe it's a girl, I don't know
(10:48:27 PM) WiSH: i think he just told me it's wrong of me to tell my kids they have to go to college. :-|
(10:48:59 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: well
(10:49:05 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: it depends on the kid
(10:49:12 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: some kids shouldn't go to college
(10:49:23 PM) AnthraX101: Yeah, some kids are really stupid.
(10:49:34 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: hello
(10:49:35 PM) ***WiSH frowns slightly.
(10:49:47 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: some would be far more suited to follow vocational or technical education, and that doesn't mean they're dumb
(10:49:57 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: Wish, I think it is great to encourage your children to go to college
(10:50:09 PM) AnthraX101: Sure, DukeOfEmbassy. But some are really, really dumb.
(10:50:18 PM) WiSH: but when you're talking about aspirations for a 7 year old, or my younger kids.. i mean.. that's a good thing.
(10:50:21 PM) AnthraX101: Ever seen YouTube?
(10:50:21 PM) Sin_Vraal: her kids are a bit young for that
(10:50:25 PM) Me: ce... i need some meaningless sex for the next few months
(10:50:27 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: but I know there are alot of assholes in my school who dont care and their parents pay there way
(10:50:29 PM) WiSH: some kids are dumb, yeah, but geez.
(10:50:30 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: encouraging is great, but I think with the prices of college now, you have to go WITH a future job planned.
(10:50:43 PM) WiSH: hell, i haven't even finished college yet. 
(10:50:53 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: so they just screw around and piss the rest of us off because we actually work to be there and get good grades
(10:51:10 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: ike: I'll work on it. :-p
(10:51:40 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: crystal and I discussed some more girls that she knew that you might like, but I dunno about the meaningless sex part
(10:51:40 PM) ***WiSH loves the Dish Network pirate channel.
(10:51:49 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: and sometimes, if they dont have the urge to go to college and actually work, sometimes they need to get a min. wage paying job to realize that they need to go back and work
(10:51:50 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: just go to bars and single out the most drunk women there
(10:51:59 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: what
(10:52:02 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: i dont think so
(10:52:10 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: (clink and swarm)
(10:52:12 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: hun, I'm talking to ike
(10:52:19 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: i'm not going
(10:52:24 PM) WiSH: ike, where do you live? i could always use meaningless sex during the day.. lol
(10:52:30 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: you need to give them a roofie first if they arent drunk enough
(10:52:46 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: what's a roofie?
(10:52:51 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: (just kidding swarm)
(10:52:51 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: pill?
(10:52:58 PM) AnthraX101: DukeOfEmbassy: Hey, wanna drink?
(10:53:00 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: yes
(10:53:30 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: what the fuck clint
(10:53:33 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: thanks for lieing to me
(10:54:14 PM) WiSH: ??
(10:54:56 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: she's great, ain't she?
(10:55:06 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: i love her so much
(10:55:10 PM) Hojo: aww :)
(10:55:22 PM) WiSH: lol
(10:55:47 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: lol
(10:55:54 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: anyways... Wish
(10:56:04 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: you know your children more than anyone else
(10:56:30 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: so if  you think they can handle college, there is no reason to stress the importance of college
(10:57:06 PM) WiSH: well, like i said, they're young. and as a parent i hope for the best possible futures for my kids, so i stress that education is important.
(10:57:07 PM) WiSH: that's all.
(10:57:36 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: Ike: If the girl is pregnant you might want to not slip her something, and you might want to make sure that she doesnt have a husband/boyfriend
(10:57:53 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: there is nothing wrong with that
(10:58:15 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: I will do the same thing with london
(10:58:39 PM) Me: WiSH: central pa, but summer vaca. is comin up...
(10:58:47 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: but when she gets older, I wont act dissapointed with her if she decides not to
(10:58:53 PM) WiSH: lol.. i'm in allentown ;)
(10:59:05 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: I will just give her incentives
(10:59:06 PM) Me: j00 r t3h kidding me. how's the hubby feel about this?
(10:59:21 PM) WiSH: right -- just the way you don't want your 16 year old to come home pregnant, but if they do, you deal with it. i mean, obviously not the same as not going to college - but you have to be able to adapt.
(10:59:45 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: yeah you got it ;)
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(11:02:22 PM) AnthraX101: College is like pregnancy?
(11:02:32 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: haha
(11:02:53 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: yeah both lead you to debt
(11:03:02 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: :)
(11:03:24 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: and you feel like shit during the process
(11:03:44 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: and then you are relieved when its over until you realize that its more work after your done
(11:04:08 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: yeah it is a little like pregnancy
(11:04:53 PM) WiSH: lol i guess you could say that.. 
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(11:05:45 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: anyways... I have to go work on the college thing
(11:05:59 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: Ike: gl trying to get laid
(11:06:17 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: CREATIVEEmbassy: Behave yourself
(11:06:46 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: and Good Night everyone else
(11:06:48 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: oh and
(11:06:55 PM) WiSH: night! :)
(11:07:11 PM) DestructiveEmbassy: Wish: dont let anyone tell you what to do with your kids... your a good mom!
(11:07:22 PM) WiSH: aww, thanks hon! 
(11:09:59 PM) ***AnthraX101 is looking forward to beating his kids
(11:11:51 PM) JustLurking: hehe
(11:11:54 PM) SomeoneE2se:  education is nothing
(11:12:41 PM) SomeoneE2se: all that matters is the name on the dploma
(11:12:59 PM) WiSH: i never said the college experience was important, but you need that stupid piece of paper
(11:13:29 PM) SomeoneE2se: you did say education was inportant
(11:13:51 PM) SomeoneE2se: education is nothing
(11:14:38 PM) WiSH: well, you also don't get far in life being a moron. well, unless you're the president.
(11:14:45 PM) SomeoneE2se: case in point
(11:15:12 PM) SomeoneE2se: i wonder of the secret service could be bribed
(11:15:20 PM) WiSH: to what?
(11:15:41 PM) SomeoneE2se: 'to open the bubble'
(11:15:50 PM) AnthraX101: ...
(11:16:07 PM) ***AnthraX101 would rather not get the SS on him, please.
(11:16:29 PM) SomeoneE2se: if i got the chance i'd put a bullet in the president's head
(11:17:07 PM) WiSH: nice
(11:17:11 PM) SomeoneE2se: yea
(11:17:33 PM) WiSH: murder is murder, and murder is stupid
(11:17:36 PM) SomeoneE2se: but I'm just inn a bad mood right now so that may have something to sdo with it
(11:17:59 PM) WiSH: why are you in a bad mood?
(11:18:03 PM) SomeoneE2se: are you a vegitarian?
(11:18:11 PM) WiSH: no
(11:18:18 PM) WiSH: i love meat. rawr.
(11:18:27 PM) SomeoneE2se: so you kill other anamals for your food
(11:18:34 PM) SomeoneE2se: why is that not murder
(11:18:36 PM) WiSH: not personally, no.
(11:19:19 PM) WiSH: because man was given domain over all the animals, and murdering is wrong.
(11:19:57 PM) Sin_Vraal: I don't kill animals for food
(11:20:01 PM) SomeoneE2se: for what reason
(11:20:02 PM) Sin_Vraal: i kill them for pleasure only
(11:20:08 PM) Sin_Vraal: i let others kill my food
(11:20:21 PM) SomeoneE2se: you can't just say it's wrong
(11:20:34 PM) SomeoneE2se: there's needs to be reasoning behind it
(11:20:44 PM) SomeoneE2se: else I can say it's right
(11:20:48 PM) WiSH: there is, it's one of the commandments. thou shalt not kill. good enough for me.
(11:21:02 PM) SomeoneE2se: thou shalt not kill
(11:21:11 PM) SomeoneE2se: not thou shall not kill anything
(11:21:16 PM) Sin_Vraal: ah but in dutch 'kill' is a body of water.  They didn't want you to pee in the pool when they said that
(11:21:19 PM) SomeoneE2se: not thou shall not kill or humans
(11:21:30 PM) SomeoneE2se: why is it then ok to KILL anamals
(11:21:33 PM) Sin_Vraal: there was plenty of animal sacrifice in th ebible
(11:21:40 PM) Sin_Vraal: it was what you did
(11:21:42 PM) Sin_Vraal: that's why.
(11:21:45 PM) SomeoneE2se: oh the bible is su fucked up
(11:21:54 PM) Sin_Vraal: hey, you brought up the commandment reference
(11:22:05 PM) SomeoneE2se: no i didn't
(11:22:09 PM) WiSH: no, i did.. lol
(11:22:14 PM) SomeoneE2se: that was WiSH 
(11:22:18 PM) SomeoneE2se: yeah see
(11:22:23 PM) WiSH: man was given domain over all the animals, which is why you could kill them.
(11:22:33 PM) SomeoneE2se: and over his wife
(11:22:40 PM) SomeoneE2se: so does you husband get to kill you if he wants?
(11:22:40 PM) AnthraX101: Yeah, the bible is pretty clear that you can kill and eat animals :)
(11:22:41 PM) WiSH: i'm not going to sit and debate this with you. you can think whatever you want.
(11:22:49 PM) SomeoneE2se: aww
(11:22:51 PM) SomeoneE2se: and i was winning
(11:22:52 PM) AnthraX101: Hence all the shellfish and pork restrictions, and all that
(11:22:54 PM) SomeoneE2se: quitter
(11:23:00 PM) Me: wish, i think i'm on your side
(11:23:08 PM) WiSH: i'm not a quitter, but you can't win against somebody who has their head up their ass.
(11:23:12 PM) Sin_Vraal: i'm on her side, but that's cuz she smells like vanilla
(11:23:16 PM) WiSH: and i have better things to do with my time. 
(11:23:17 PM) SomeoneE2se: my head is not up my ass
(11:23:22 PM) ***WiSH grins at Sin
(11:23:32 PM) SomeoneE2se: you just clams that becasue you can't make your point other then I say soii
(11:23:36 PM) SomeoneE2se: so*
(11:23:40 PM) WiSH: clams?
(11:23:54 PM) WiSH: i like clams
(11:23:55 PM) SomeoneE2se: claim*
(11:24:10 PM) WiSH: i don't need to make my point, that's the supreme power of faith. 
(11:24:22 PM) SomeoneE2se: blind faith is still blind
(11:24:31 PM) WiSH: okay
(11:24:34 PM) SomeoneE2se: i get to luagh when you walk into a tree
(11:24:38 PM) SomeoneE2se: laugh*
(11:24:46 PM) Me: no. christianity is logically consistent. but atheists tend to not be willing to actually discuss it reasonably.
(11:25:12 PM) SomeoneE2se: stupid theists
(11:25:22 PM) WiSH: i don't want to sound like a bible thumper or something, because i'm not. but i will stand up for what i believe in.
(11:25:29 PM) SomeoneE2se: and you should
(11:25:50 PM) SomeoneE2se: but you should also be able to provide proof to back up your beliefes
(11:26:02 PM) ***AnthraX101 likes being a bible humper.
(11:26:10 PM) AnthraX101: Need plenty of lube for it, though.
(11:26:15 PM) SomeoneE2se: and quoting fiction is not proof
(11:26:39 PM) Me: greg. that is uncalled for
(11:26:46 PM) WiSH: so, then, what's your proof to believe in nothing?
(11:26:49 PM) Sin_Vraal: If I were to believe the bible, man is on earth in an I Dream of Jeannie series of events
(11:26:50 PM) SomeoneE2se: what?
(11:27:08 PM) SomeoneE2se: huh?
(11:27:16 PM) SomeoneE2se: wait what
(11:27:21 PM) WiSH: what's your proof that what i'm saying is wrong?
(11:27:22 PM) SomeoneE2se: you want me to prove nothing
(11:27:26 PM) AnthraX101: Bahah, I love that argument...Prove your point in my limited system of logic!
(11:27:44 PM) SomeoneE2se: I never said you were wrong
(11:27:48 PM) AnthraX101: Given that God doesn't exist, prove that God exists.
(11:27:50 PM) SomeoneE2se: and i did was ask for you resoning
(11:27:58 PM) WiSH: you asked for proof
(11:28:03 PM) SomeoneE2se: yea
(11:28:17 PM) SomeoneE2se: i asked for what made you think it was ok to kill anamals and not humans
(11:28:43 PM) SomeoneE2se: and then i said fiction doesn't count
(11:29:17 PM) AnthraX101: Humans have senscience, animals do not.
(11:29:32 PM) SomeoneE2se: you cna't prove that
(11:29:34 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: oh yay
(11:29:42 PM) AnthraX101: SomeoneE2se: Bahaha
(11:29:45 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: I'm missing a religious debate?
(11:29:48 PM) SomeoneE2se: but by the same token i cant prove they do
(11:29:50 PM) ***DukeOfEmbassy jumps up and down
(11:29:50 PM) WiSH: not exactly
(11:29:51 PM) AnthraX101: Did you skip science class, little boy?
(11:29:52 PM) Me: :)
(11:29:57 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: ike
(11:29:58 PM) SomeoneE2se: DukeOfEmbassy: linda
(11:30:01 PM) Me: (11:27:48 PM) AnthraX101: Given that God doesn't exist, prove that God exists.
(11:30:04 PM) Me: perfect
(11:30:04 PM) Sin_Vraal: there is something deliciously wrong about Anthrax calling people little bos
(11:30:05 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: you watching this too? or you getting involved
(11:30:11 PM) Sin_Vraal: boys
(11:30:13 PM) ***WiSH sighs.
(11:30:19 PM) SomeoneE2se: kinda*
(11:30:28 PM) ***JustLurking stops paying attention
(11:30:37 PM) Me: anthrax nailed it
(11:30:38 PM) Sin_Vraal: dont' waste your time with him, Wish.  He doesn't want to open his mind.
(11:30:43 PM) SomeoneE2se: my mind it open
(11:30:50 PM) Sin_Vraal: open like a steel baptist
(11:30:50 PM) WiSH: hey, no skin off my ass. :)
(11:30:51 PM) SomeoneE2se: you have yet to provid a reason
(11:30:53 PM) SomeoneE2se: !!!!!
(11:30:57 PM) SomeoneE2se: tell me why it's ok
(11:31:01 PM) AnthraX101: SomeoneE2se: Are you realy acting under the guise of "science", and asking someone to prove a negative?
(11:31:02 PM) SomeoneE2se: or not ok
(11:31:20 PM) SomeoneE2se: WiSH already asked me to prove my beliefe in nothing
(11:31:33 PM) ***WiSH worded that wrong.
(11:31:36 PM) Me: do you believe that there is an objective reality?
(11:31:52 PM) SomeoneE2se: ScreaminIke: ?
(11:32:07 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: objective
(11:32:12 PM) Me: do you believe that we all interact with an identical, mind-independent reality
(11:32:12 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: as opposed to subjective
(11:32:23 PM) SomeoneE2se: no
(11:32:30 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: or do each of us create our own realities?
(11:32:33 PM) Me: you think that our minds actually changes reality?
(11:32:48 PM) SomeoneE2se: I have a hard time believing anythign thats non falseafible
(11:33:01 PM) SomeoneE2se: the former
(11:33:23 PM) SomeoneE2se: that akin to asking
(11:33:27 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: psst... someone here watches "The Secret"
(11:33:28 PM) SomeoneE2se: is this all just a dream
(11:33:36 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: what?
(11:33:41 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: well, if it's all a dream
(11:33:58 PM) WiSH: it's all just an episode of st. elsewhere
(11:34:04 PM) SomeoneE2se: heh
(11:34:05 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: are we all in the same dream and our minds don't directly affect that dream? do we perceive on reality, still?
(11:34:25 PM) SomeoneE2se: there is no such thing as reality
(11:34:31 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: or do we all not just see things differently, but the way we see them is the way things are?
(11:34:44 PM) SomeoneE2se: only what we perseave
(11:35:10 PM) ***WiSH sees a lot of money showing up in her checking account.
(11:35:18 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: i think we're getting sidetracked
(11:35:40 PM) Me: no
(11:35:43 PM) Me: we're not
(11:36:11 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: i thought you had a point, ike?
(11:36:16 PM) SomeoneE2se: so did I
(11:36:19 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: then I can continue this train of thought
(11:36:21 PM) Me: look. if there is no such thing as an objective reality, then for wish and i, there might be a god, and for you there might not be.
(11:36:31 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: good point
(11:36:40 PM) SomeoneE2se: veyr good point
(11:36:41 PM) ***WiSH nods.
(11:36:48 PM) SomeoneE2se: however 
(11:36:51 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: but if none of us perceives a God, can he still exist?
(11:36:58 PM) Me: but if there is no such thing as objective reality, how do you explain that we all seem to represent and interact with our realities in a uniform manner?
(11:37:01 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: in a subjective reality
(11:37:07 PM) SomeoneE2se: all I'm aksing for a a little bit of proof
(11:37:32 PM) Me: (i'll get to god. follow me for a minute)
(11:37:36 PM) SomeoneE2se: ScreaminIke I had you pegged for a athiest
(11:37:47 PM) ***SomeoneE2se follows ScreaminIke
(11:38:29 PM) Me: , how do you explain that we all seem to represent and interact with our realities in a uniform manner?
(11:38:53 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: so there's either an objective reality, or a subjective reality that one person/idea is holding together
(11:38:57 PM) SomeoneE2se: huh?
(11:39:22 PM) Me: when i type, it seems that the words i send (and are echoed back by the server) are the same ones YOU see
(11:39:27 PM) Me: because your responses make sense
(11:39:38 PM) Me: how does that WORK if there is no objective reality?
(11:39:39 PM) SomeoneE2se: yeah
(11:40:05 PM) SomeoneE2se: I never said there wasen't
(11:40:23 PM) Me: (11:32:12 PM) Me: do you believe that we all interact with an identical, mind-independent reality
(11:40:23 PM) Me: (11:32:12 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: as opposed to subjective
(11:40:23 PM) Me: (11:32:23 PM) SomeoneE2se: no
(11:40:36 PM) ***WiSH hearts Ike.
(11:40:49 PM) SomeoneE2se: no i agree with that
(11:40:57 PM) Me: WiSH: enough to swap oral sex a few times this summer?
(11:41:07 PM) WiSH: you never know! 
(11:41:18 PM) ***Me blushes, hopeful.
(11:41:27 PM) Me: oh. phone
(11:41:28 PM) Me: brb
(11:42:35 PM) AnthraX101: Some things are more important then oral sex.
(11:42:41 PM) AnthraX101: The phone is not one of them.
(11:42:42 PM) WiSH: not many, though.
(11:42:46 PM) WiSH: lol
(11:44:04 PM) SomeoneE2se: sigh
(11:44:10 PM) ***WiSH loves the 90's alternative Sirius channel. Mmmm.
(11:47:48 PM) Me: :)
(11:47:50 PM) Me: yea
(11:47:57 PM) Me: i just got over 20 new nerf darts
(11:48:10 PM) Me: and a new maverick (n-strike)
(11:48:16 PM) Me: and two wine glasses
(11:48:24 PM) Me: n e way
(11:48:39 PM) Me: look. if there IS  reality... and we don't create it... what did?
(11:48:48 PM) Me: how is it that gravity WORKS?
(11:48:54 PM) Me: where does color come from?
(11:49:02 PM) SomeoneE2se: there is no color
(11:49:07 PM) SomeoneE2se: hold on
(11:49:10 PM) Me: basically... what is teh ultimate nature of reality?
(11:49:25 PM) SomeoneE2se: I'm willing to say i don't know
(11:49:27 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: when you say stuff like, "there is no color", you believe in a subjective reality
(11:49:30 PM) Me: no color? how do you explain that we are able to talk about color if color doesn't work?
(11:49:37 PM) SomeoneE2se: and that no one might ever know
(11:49:40 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: well, there's no color to ike
(11:49:44 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: he can't tell
(11:49:49 PM) SomeoneE2se: it's waves of light
(11:50:00 PM) SomeoneE2se: that our brains intereprets as color
(11:50:05 PM) DukeOfEmbassy: but there's a perfect proof that we live in an objective reality
(11:50:11 PM) Me: even so... how does that work?
(11:50:29 PM) Me: how is it that i can say "green" and you KNOW what i mean?
(11:50:33 PM) Me: where does green come from?
(11:50:36 PM) SomeoneE2se: with genetic mutation we once get it
(11:50:43 PM) Me: look at this example: gold.
(11:50:46 PM) SomeoneE2se: that creature lived longer
(11:50:50 PM) SomeoneE2se: had more offspring
(11:51:07 PM) SomeoneE2se: and there for grew
(11:51:12 PM) Me: an atom of gold... it can't be gold-colored, right? it's just an atom. some electrons, some protons, some neutrons....
(11:51:22 PM) Me: if anything... it might be white
(11:51:30 PM) Me: so two gold atoms... they're white too.
(11:51:32 PM) Me: three...
(11:51:33 PM) Me: four
(11:51:43 PM) Me: but at some point... it seems to magically get color
(11:51:47 PM) Me: WHAT CAUSES THAT?
(11:51:51 PM) SomeoneE2se: not god
(11:52:04 PM) SomeoneE2se: I can say i don't know
(11:52:24 PM) AnthraX101: ...
(11:52:26 PM) Me: ok. if you don't know, then you can't rule out God. not if that''s ALL you can say
(11:52:27 PM) SomeoneE2se: and i don't have to make up an imagnary friend to tall someone i know where that comes from
(11:52:45 PM) SomeoneE2se: you can't say god makes it like that
(11:53:05 PM) SomeoneE2se: or i can say I made it do thayt
(11:53:10 PM) SomeoneE2se: prove me wrong
(11:53:12 PM) Me: no. i think there's some mechanic to the way energy works that color is a processable part of the world around us
(11:53:28 PM) AnthraX101: ScreaminIke: bad example. It "looks" gold because the energy hitting the atom causes an electron to increase a few orbitals
(11:53:28 PM) SomeoneE2se: so do i
(11:53:32 PM) Me: but my question, i guess... is where does that mechanic come from?
(11:53:34 PM) SomeoneE2se: but i don't think god created it
(11:53:41 PM) SomeoneE2se: I don't know
(11:53:43 PM) AnthraX101: To shed that energy, it emits a photon, to get back into a stable state.
(11:53:48 PM) SomeoneE2se: but again
(11:53:55 PM) SomeoneE2se: i'm not going to make something up with out proof
(11:53:59 PM) SomeoneE2se: os some sort
(11:54:01 PM) SomeoneE2se: of8
(11:54:04 PM) SomeoneE2se: of**
(11:54:49 PM) Me: lets imagine that we have some sets of questions for which the most workable explanation is to generate a new entity (i know. ockham would be appalled. let it rest)...
(11:55:10 PM) SomeoneE2se: ....
(11:55:16 PM) Me: and the existence of such an entity actually explains more completely other parts of our universe....
(11:55:41 PM) Me: wouldn't we accept this EXTREMELY useful explanation?
(11:55:43 PM) SomeoneE2se: that is by no why good science
(11:55:43 PM) SomeoneE2se: you can make somethingup
(11:55:44 PM) SomeoneE2se: you need input
(11:55:55 PM) Me: science? science is ONE way of knowing things
(11:56:01 PM) SomeoneE2se: that's an arugment of consence
(11:56:02 PM) Me: but even so... science has done just this
(11:56:31 PM) SomeoneE2se: just becsaue it's easyer to believe it dosen't make it right
(11:56:40 PM) SomeoneE2se: right = true
(11:56:58 PM) Me: science has done this
(11:57:09 PM) Me: they were doing some experiments on solar energy
(11:57:20 PM) Me: and all the data and theories they had were pretty good
(11:57:27 PM) Me: but the results they were doing were always offf
(11:57:44 PM) Me: so to explain it, they generated an extra variable, a subatomic particle...
(11:58:07 PM) Me: and the theory that these solar-generated sub-atomic particles exist and act in certain ways actually fixed all their data
(11:59:04 PM) Me: point is... sometimes the most workable solution... the best answer, is the generation of entities
(11:59:31 PM) Me: and to explain beauty... truth... ethics... god is a highly workable solution. the christian god
(12:00:16 AM) ***Me wanders away. will likely be back.
(12:00:54 AM) SomeoneE2se: what wait
(12:01:03 AM) SomeoneE2se: why are we tring to explain ethics
(12:01:26 AM) WiSH: so there!
(12:01:28 AM) ***WiSH grins.
(12:03:38 AM) SomeoneE2se: sigh stupid thiests
(12:03:45 AM) SomeoneE2se: be back later
(12:21:03 AM) Me: ...
(12:22:47 AM) WiSH: ....
(12:25:34 AM) Me: .....
(12:25:42 AM) Me: don't challenge me. i'll write a script.
(12:26:13 AM) WiSH: ew.
(12:26:16 AM) ***WiSH backs off.
(12:26:57 AM) DukeOfEmbassy: heh
(12:31:35 AM) Brain\Storm [booty@booty.cawm] entered the room.
(12:31:35 AM) #evillaughter: mode (+o Brain\Storm) by ChanServ
(12:31:35 AM) Gauss: Brain\Storm: Extremely brutal rape?! SIGN ME THE FUCK UP.
(12:31:44 AM) Brain\Storm: d0000d
(12:31:58 AM) Me: BRAIN
(12:32:00 AM) WiSH: brain!
(12:32:15 AM) Brain\Storm: i got sent a friend request from this chick i dont know, thought it was spam
(12:32:16 AM) ***WiSH gives Brain\Storm a big squishy hug.
(12:32:23 AM) Brain\Storm: i was lookin at her friends
(12:32:26 AM) Brain\Storm: turns out
(12:32:41 AM) JustLurking: she's hot?
(12:32:48 AM) Brain\Storm: there's a shit... SHITload of people on myspace with "Diaper Fetishes"
(12:32:51 AM) WiSH: you previously impregnanted her?
(12:32:54 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(12:32:59 AM) JustLurking: 5
(12:33:45 AM) Me: lol
(12:34:02 AM) Brain\Storm: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=64548175
(12:34:05 AM) Brain\Storm: word.
(12:34:12 AM) Brain\Storm: and a wtf.
(12:34:29 AM) ***WiSH can't bring herself to look.
(12:34:33 AM) Brain\Storm: heh
(12:35:03 AM) Snooper [lol@chat-solu-3E396A88.fitzg1.qld.optusnet.com.au] entered the room.
(12:35:05 AM) Snooper: Yarr.
(12:35:14 AM) Brain\Storm: yarr har har
(12:35:19 AM) Snooper: ^^
(12:35:34 AM) JustLurking: I'm still unnerved over that lickable pic earlier
(12:35:47 AM) JustLurking: and runge's reaction
(12:36:43 AM) WiSH: lickable pic? is that like the tongue tattoos that come with airheads?
(12:37:03 AM) JustLurking: no
(12:37:26 AM) JustLurking: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/Lickable.jpg
(12:37:48 AM) Brain\Storm: HAHAHHA
(12:37:48 AM) WiSH: wow, that's pretty wrong.
(12:37:53 AM) Snooper: ...
(12:37:59 AM) Snooper: Can someone tell me what it says?
(12:38:06 AM) Brain\Storm: it says
(12:38:13 AM) Brain\Storm: L I C K A B L E
(12:38:14 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(12:38:22 AM) Snooper: ...
(12:38:27 AM) Snooper: I meant the text I -can't- read.
(12:38:35 AM) Brain\Storm: you should learn
(12:38:39 AM) Brain\Storm: it'll help in life
(12:38:40 AM) Brain\Storm: :P
(12:38:45 AM) ***WiSH snorts.
(12:38:52 AM) JustLurking: I knew brain would have that reaction to it
(12:39:04 AM) Brain\Storm: thats funny as hell
(12:39:25 AM) WiSH: is that for real?
(12:40:07 AM) Brain\Storm: i would think so
(12:40:29 AM) WiSH: poor kids
(12:41:21 AM) Brain\Storm: "i am a huge baby boi, 23 years old. diapers make me feel secure".... OMG WHAT A SICKO
(12:42:20 AM) Me: boi. that's lingo for gay.
(12:42:25 AM) Brain\Storm: yeah
(12:42:27 AM) Brain\Storm: heh
(12:42:31 AM) Me: a catcher, actually, methinks
(12:42:50 AM) Brain\Storm: poor snoop
(12:43:02 AM) WiSH: unless you're avril lavigne
(12:43:08 AM) ***Snooper yawns.
(12:43:26 AM) Brain\Storm: avril is a boi in the sense she has a penis.
(12:43:27 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(12:43:46 AM) WiSH: hehe
(12:45:31 AM) Brain\Storm: *sigh*
(12:45:38 AM) Brain\Storm: if i can only make it through the night
(12:45:50 AM) Brain\Storm: this is my last night, then i have 2 nights off
(12:46:14 AM) Brain\Storm: therefore it will last like a billion fucking hoursss.....
(12:48:10 AM) JustLurking: no mo ho-tel?
(12:48:16 AM) JustLurking: for a few days?
(12:48:52 AM) Brain\Storm: yep
(12:49:09 AM) Brain\Storm: i get to go home and sleep with a woman. yay.
(12:50:57 AM) JustLurking: as opposed to the sleeping with guys?
(12:51:03 AM) Brain\Storm: hah
(12:51:03 AM) JustLurking: that's fine
(12:51:30 AM) Brain\Storm: as opposed to um, bein at work while she's sleepin
(12:56:39 AM) Brain\Storm: i have such a weakness for tits.
(12:57:01 AM) JustLurking: 5
(12:57:07 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(12:57:11 AM) DukeOfEmbassy: 5
(12:57:29 AM) Brain\Storm: i bought like $13.00 of shit i don't need from a store today
(12:58:02 AM) Brain\Storm: just cos some hot chick was bein a slut. with her tits.
(12:58:05 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(12:58:09 AM) Snooper: Brain\Storm: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/39984131/
(12:58:25 AM) Brain\Storm: haw haw haw
(12:58:42 AM) WiSH left the room.
(12:58:56 AM) JustLurking: there you go, scarin away the chick
(12:58:59 AM) JustLurking: ;)
(12:59:07 AM) Brain\Storm: 5
(01:00:44 AM) Brain\Storm: "I LIEK 2 LOOK IN DA TRASHES FOR DA EVIDENCES"
(01:00:46 AM) Brain\Storm: hahahaha
(01:01:19 AM) Brain\Storm: hobo's rule