Aug 12 13:37:07 <gurumeditationer>      I agree that we arn't gonna have a dialogue with any deity
Aug 12 13:37:33 <gurumeditationer>      But we can learn about what created this universe by studying it's architecture
ug 12 17:37:37 <man_in_shack>  gurumeditationer, no we can't
Aug 12 17:37:55 <man_in_shack>  only way to know what created the universe is to observe it
Aug 12 17:38:03 <man_in_shack>  in doing so, we cause it to exist