`alex: You could also just define a constant in the including file: and check for it in mysql.php: if (!defined(TOP_LEVEL)) .... <`alex> well, im trying to prevent some things like some retard will find the mysql.php and put like 400 bots to that and start opening and closing connections :P <`alex> and argonic, ill try it, good idea `alex: Name it .inc and use Apache to reject access to .inc files <`alex> oh clever