jakeslc555: wonder what its like jakeslc555: to have blizzard come to house liquidchaos367: it's unchill. liquidchaos367: very unchill. jakeslc555: :E jakeslc555: they got jakeslc555: black suits and every thing like "the matrix"? liquidchaos367: not quite that intimidating liquidchaos367: but close liquidchaos367: 6 of 'em for me jakeslc555: oh wow, 6? liquidchaos367: well liquidchaos367: two were net ops liquidchaos367: two were lawyers liquidchaos367: one was a forensics guy liquidchaos367: o w8, no, 3 lawyers jakeslc555: wow whats the forensics guy for? liquidchaos367: forensics jakeslc555: for jakeslc555: a hacker? liquidchaos367: my HD's jakeslc555: did they take your HD? liquidchaos367: no liquidchaos367: they copied it and made me wipe mine liquidchaos367: let me keep the hardware though jakeslc555: I would instantly wipe mine if i seen them coming :E liquidchaos367: I didn't see them coming liquidchaos367: I was chilling in my kitchen liquidchaos367: eating jakeslc555: :E jakeslc555: did they just walk right in? liquidchaos367: they weren't exactly wearing "blizzard" hats or anything liquidchaos367: no liquidchaos367: knocked on my door jakeslc555: LOL jakeslc555: yeah, i didn't imagine jakeslc555: but man.. liquidchaos367: was a very very long day jakeslc555: they made you wipe it, i didn't think they would do that liquidchaos367: they were all pretty nice though liquidchaos367: well liquidchaos367: they made me do it because I did something different than other people - that I can't talk about liquidchaos367: as part of my agreement with them jakeslc555: ahh, i see jakeslc555: think jakeslc555: they made netter etc did it as well? liquidchaos367: nah liquidchaos367: he kept his info I think liquidchaos367: they made him delete his hax I think liquidchaos367: but other than that, he kept his HDs afaik jakeslc555: wow jakeslc555: man... blizzard does not kid around jakeslc555: I was thinking jakeslc555: one lawyer game and said "stop hacking" jakeslc555: lo jakeslc555: l liquidchaos367: na jakeslc555: was not expecting a whole gang liquidchaos367: they're making like 60 million/month from wow liquidchaos367: they can afford 6 ppl rolling to ppl's houses jakeslc555: lol liquidchaos367: to be more intimidating liquidchaos367: and it works jakeslc555: how do they get, address? liquidchaos367: in my case, my wow account liquidchaos367: billing info, credit card jakeslc555: ahh jakeslc555: apperantly jakeslc555: they got netters through is website liquidchaos367: yea liquidchaos367: domain was reg'd in his name/address jakeslc555: who knows, how they got pauls... probably the same way liquidchaos367: pauls info is public liquidchaos367: he's posted it b4 iirc jakeslc555: ahh :E liquidchaos367: on his personal page liquidchaos367: mousepad and zoid were the hardest for them to find liquidchaos367: they asked me for help with that jakeslc555: wow jakeslc555: they contacted zoid as well? liquidchaos367: they came to me long before anyone else liquidchaos367: 2 years ago now I think liquidchaos367: yea liquidchaos367: 2 years jakeslc555: well, you are the brains behind this all in the time and age, if i remember right jakeslc555: wow jakeslc555: so they basicly jakeslc555: contacted any d2 hacker that was fairly large.. jakeslc555: : jakeslc555: :E liquidchaos367: it was funny - they released warden the day after they signed the agreement with me ^^ jakeslc555: rofl liquidchaos367: part of my agreement being I can't hack their games anymore jakeslc555: :( liquidchaos367: which is why my anti-detection articles were all about "generic" anti-detection not "anti-warden detection" ;) jakeslc555: lol jakeslc555: well, if you ask me jakeslc555: theres no way to get past it other then the "middle man" like redvex, on a different machine with proper plugins, at least as far as a full blown public hack liquidchaos367: there are ways liquidchaos367: i've already described them, everyone just sux to much to implement them jakeslc555: lol liquidchaos367: netter got the closest liquidchaos367: in his last version of EP jakeslc555: ehh, netter never had a standing chance imo.. liquidchaos367: he had it almost perfect jakeslc555: his hacks, got detected two times in a row with the same method by the warden.. liquidchaos367: they detected him by reading the chat log liquidchaos367: and looking at the EP msg liquidchaos367: shady trick jakeslc555: oh wow jakeslc555: they cheap shotted jakeslc555: mouse pad as well.. jakeslc555: with the gay line jakeslc555: :E liquidchaos367: netter was always intent on doing the bare minimum anti-detection every time liquidchaos367: I always told him jakeslc555: well liquidchaos367: to be more pre-emptive jakeslc555: i think he knew, that.. jakeslc555: blizzard takes several months to update warden jakeslc555: so he could get a mass-ban and "re-proof" jakeslc555: and hes good for 5 months.. liquidchaos367: yea liquidchaos367: mousepad sucked too liquidchaos367: ppl thought his AD wsa good liquidchaos367: his was the worst liquidchaos367: least advanced of all of them liquidchaos367: he was just lucky that blizzard is extremely stupid jakeslc555: rofl jakeslc555: well.. jakeslc555: all of the jakeslc555: "good d2 hackers?" have long since gone now liquidchaos367: and then he got r0xed so hard jakeslc555: LOL liquidchaos367: I lol'd hard that day liquidchaos367: for like 6 months before that liquidchaos367: I had been saying liquidchaos367: "your anti-detection isn't perfect" liquidchaos367: and he kept saying "NOBODYS EVER BEEN BANNED CUZ OF MY HAX!!!111" liquidchaos367: then liquidchaos367: PWNED jakeslc555: lol jakeslc555: well, there is just... jakeslc555: so much, you have to consider jakeslc555: to make a good ad jakeslc555: :E liquidchaos367: yep liquidchaos367: I fucking told everyone how to do it liquidchaos367: to make it perfect liquidchaos367: nobody wanted to spend the time jakeslc555: no one, can do it... jakeslc555: or at least liquidchaos367: I can jakeslc555: none of these hackers, that can hack d2.. jakeslc555: yes jakeslc555: but only if, you want to be sued by blizzard? lol liquidchaos367: lol liquidchaos367: right jakeslc555: ^^ liquidchaos367: http://www.rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=543 jakeslc555: what do you think of VAC2, a strong anti-cheat? liquidchaos367: I co-designed that system liquidchaos367: anonymously liquidchaos367: with greg jakeslc555: ahh nice ^^ liquidchaos367: i'm "even those who remain nameless" liquidchaos367: VAC2 is pretty good liquidchaos367: more advanced than warden liquidchaos367: in some ways anyway jakeslc555: yeah, seems hard to get buy jakeslc555: my friend kalvin, does a good job at it so far.. liquidchaos367: http://forum.game-deception.net is the place to go for that liquidchaos367: sry, no - liquidchaos367: http://forum.gamedeception.net jakeslc555: :P jakeslc555: yeah, i am good friends with XanTrax, kalvin, c0re... and etc, most of the main HL series hackers jakeslc555: but liquidchaos367: ah jakeslc555: no ones ever came up with a perfect one, still.. jakeslc555: you friends, with any of them? liquidchaos367: not really liquidchaos367: i'm friends with p47rick liquidchaos367: loopnz liquidchaos367: forget his forum name liquidchaos367: few others jakeslc555: wav is smart as well jakeslc555: by the way.. jakeslc555: Lord2800 and i were talking the other day, about a anti-cheat possibly detecting a hack through checking for reading memory in a page that doesn't belong to it, how could that be counterd, do ya think? liquidchaos367: what do you mean by that? liquidchaos367: oh jakeslc555: :E liquidchaos367: w8 I get it liquidchaos367: how would you detect that though? jakeslc555: ehem, well.. I was asking lord2800 on a few idea of mine for a anti-detection, and he said they could detect it by "reading memory in a page that doesn't belong to it" to be honest , i don't really understand it to much.. liquidchaos367: that would work - but there is no way to do that afaik jakeslc555: lol jakeslc555: well then, it's renderd pointless if it would not work :E jakeslc555: so did you like have coffe with blizzard or something lol? liquidchaos367: haha liquidchaos367: my dad did liquidchaos367: I don't like coffee jakeslc555: lmao jakeslc555: a nice sandwhich and some coffe and discuss the details with blizzard lol liquidchaos367: they brought food with them jakeslc555: LOL jakeslc555: really? liquidchaos367: rly jakeslc555: so they were ready for the long haul? liquidchaos367: they were here all day liquidchaos367: like 8-10 hours at least liquidchaos367: was a _LONG_ day jakeslc555: oh wow liquidchaos367: mostly cuz liquidchaos367: my dad is a lawyer liquidchaos367: and was negotiating my contract with them liquidchaos367: for like, forever jakeslc555: ahh i see jakeslc555: did your dad jakeslc555: know about all this hacking stuff? liquidchaos367: yes jakeslc555: my parents jakeslc555: would rage if blizzard came to door liquidchaos367: haha jakeslc555: i would have thought, blizzard would be all mean and stuff jakeslc555: not nice :E jakeslc555: i remember once, you told me about hacking a game called vanguard, or something... you ever end up doing it O_o?