>> Progress Face/Off (1997) Subtitles.......: English, Swedish. Audio Bitrate...: 640kbit/s Audio Codec.....: AC3 Audio Language..: English Audio untouched?: Yes Video Bitrate...: 3685kbit/s Video Codec.....: x264 Resolution......: 1280x544 Framerate.......: 23.976 Video source....: Blu-Ray H.264 Audio source....: Blu-Ray AC3 IMDb............: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119094/ Notes...........: We have been doing quite a few proper, its sad, we dont like doing it, but it has to be done to improve quality. We are aware that we are contradicting the rules we signed with this but read and you will know why. (low bitrate but you CANT judge quality soley on bitrate anyone with a little encode experince will tell you this). To CDDHD: ---------------------------------------------------- We have been enduring your settings quite too long, cddhd. First of all 8x8dct=0 WHY? Dont give us the crap about standalone compabiliy. The players arent out yet. We dont know what they will support. If you are so worried about compablity, go for WMWHD, and rape quality. And your keyframe settings are insane. Min=1 and Max = 150? Are you high? keyint min = 1, do you need a I-frame for every frame? WHEN? Do you think it will help jumping in the movie? Ever noticed problems with jumping in another rip? Its max 250 (~10sec) and min 25 by default. Those settings are fine. I-frames take alot more space and you cant work the algorithm magic on them. So there is a reason to try and keep them as few as possible. (But kudos you guys have used way worse on other rips). Motion Estimation Method: DIAMOND. To quote http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/x264_options_page6.html "Only use when maximum encoding speed is required." This should NEVER ever be used. Rate Distortion Optimization brdo=0, wtf? you are using b-frames right? yeah you are (had to check). Another rape on quality for no reason except faster encode. mixed_ref=0, anyone supprised? When using 8x8dct=0 + me=dia + brdo=. You have broken the rules you signed yourselves, good work. All these have been changed from better default values, to these faster values. So its done on purpose to win races and rape our quality. Comparision screenshots are avabile in /screens if you dont trust us. And as an extra bonus CDDHD rip is slightly overcropped. The only reason their encode looks as good as ours is that they have DOUBLE bitrate and still not better than ours! To Scene: ----------------------------------------------------- But its a sad thing limiting yourself to dvd5 and dvd9 usually ends you up with either too low or too high bitrate. What people need to understand is that there is a bitrate were you wont achive higher quality. So if a 6GB rip looks as good as a full dvd9 in every way. Why waste credits, hdd, space etc etc on nothing? This rip is made with constant quant set to 20. Of course you cant just blindly trust that, so take a look in compare dir. And see if the oversized dvd9 looks any better? The rules need to be changed. All movies are unique and you can easily tell how people choose between dvd5 and dvd9 that all of the sudden a rip dosnt need 3gb more bitrate. We to allow rips to be 3, 6, 7gb or whatever if that the pivot where no quality is achieved. Everything else is just a waste. The method can of course be discussed but the situation as it is now is unbearable. And septic, turn on 8x8 transform too! Encoder commandline we used for this: --qp 20 --ref 5 --mixed-refs --no-fast-pskip --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --b-rdo --bime --weightb --filter -2,-2 --subme 7 --analyse all --8x8dct --threads 2 --thread-input --progress --output "faceoff.mkv" "faceoff.avs" --me umh Trellis is useless on constant quant. Encode log......: avis [info]: 1280x544 @ 23.98 fps (199863 frames) x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 The NCBENUM return code is: 0x0 The NCBENUM return code is: 0x0 x264 [info]: slice I:3873 Avg QP:17.00 size: 69008 PSNR Mean Y:46.38 U:50.87 V:51.83 Avg:47.46 Global:47.29 x264 [info]: slice P:121234 Avg QP:20.00 size: 23989 PSNR Mean Y:44.16 U:48.83 V:49.86 Avg:45.28 Global:45.00 x264 [info]: slice B:74756 Avg QP:21.81 size: 8858 PSNR Mean Y:43.35 U:48.37 V:49.44 Avg:44.51 Global:44.18 x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 41.6% 46.2% 12.2% x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 9.3% 14.9% 2.2% P16..4: 39.2% 10.6% 4.2% 0.2% 0.1% skip:19.4% x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.6% 0.9% 0.2% B16..8: 34.4% 1.4% 3.6% direct: 5.1% skip:53.8% x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:55.3% inter:46.4% x264 [info]: ref P 66.1% 18.0% 9.1% 3.8% 3.0% x264 [info]: ref B 78.3% 14.3% 3.9% 2.1% 1.4% x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9705157 x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:43.899 U:48.701 V:49.744 Avg:45.035 Global:44.706 kb/s:3683.06 This is a CQ job so theres no desired bitrate. Obtained video bitrate: 3685 kbit/s