(16:14:45) (ViciousPotato) Hi. (16:15:46) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) mm hellow (16:15:59) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) mind if i ask you a couple questions? (16:16:07) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) [rather innocuous i promise] (16:16:13) (ViciousPotato) Uh.. sure (16:16:25) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) right (16:16:39) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 1. is talleh having like a really shitty day/week/month or something? (16:16:51) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) that i could understand to a point..... (16:17:03) (ViciousPotato) No. Drop the attitude with her or I will ban you from daIRC. Understood? (16:17:13) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 2. am i being confused with someone? (16:17:22) (ViciousPotato) No. (16:17:32) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) hmm... (16:17:45) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 3. did delta drop control over this net? (16:17:50) (ViciousPotato) No. (16:18:01) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 4. do opers no longer have a code of conduct? (16:18:16) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) [i am one somewhere else so this is something i do understand quite well] (16:18:35) (ViciousPotato) I'm sure opers do, but you'll find Talleh and I aren't 'Opers'. (16:18:46) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) yes yes (16:18:52) (ViciousPotato) And yes; 'we' do have a CoC. (16:18:53) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i'm quite aware of what you consider an oper to be. (16:19:14) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i understand [and was here] when delta split up the levels of oper (16:19:24) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) let me show you something lol (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) Hi. (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] (potato@viciouspotato.support.dairc): ViciousPotato (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] is a registered nick (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] irc.kasumi.dairc.us :There are no living things without feelings (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] is available for help. (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] is using a Secure Connection (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] is an AdminServ Operator (16:19:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] idle 00:00:25, signon: Thu Jun 7 14:17:14 (16:19:30) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * [ViciousPotato] End of WHOIS list. (16:19:31) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) see that? (16:19:39) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) where it says adminserv operator ? (16:19:41) (ViciousPotato) Yes. (16:19:48) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) that is indeed an oper (16:20:01) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) sure not rootservices oper (16:20:04) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but oper none the less (16:20:09) (ViciousPotato) In a way, yes. (16:20:16) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) no no (16:20:19) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) no in a ways (16:20:30) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) abilities of an oper include seeing past vhosts (16:20:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) kill/gline/qaline etc (16:20:44) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) flood exemptions (16:20:49) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) yaddayadda (16:20:53) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) according to level etc (16:20:56) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now. (16:21:15) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) when a user sees that ********* operator attached to your whois (16:21:20) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) assume its someone thats not me (16:21:23) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) right (16:21:40) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so some random person on the net whois's you or goes for support or whatnot and sees that (16:21:54) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) _YOU_ are the representative of the network to them (16:21:59) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i.e. the general public (16:22:03) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) and sure that includes me atm (16:22:25) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) ive never had nor would i accept oper here lol// too much work for me (16:22:35) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) anyway. (16:22:48) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so let me ask you another question. (16:23:07) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) did you only mssg to 'scare' me or are you actually trying to handle something for the network (16:23:22) (ViciousPotato) I messaged you to tell you to drop the attitude with Talleh or you'll be removed from the network. (16:23:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) b/c if your mssging me as he/she/it's friend then this is pointless (16:23:47) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) if your mssging me as a network rep then your acting as an oper and we might have something to disguss (16:23:55) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but i suppose the real question is: (16:24:14) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) are you here to heckle or to solve a problem? (16:24:46) (ViciousPotato) As I said before, I'm 'here' to tell you to drop the attitude with Talleh. (16:24:59) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so your just here to 'scare' me (16:25:00) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) see. (16:25:04) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) that doesnt work very well (16:25:14) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i'm not trying to challenge your 'powers' or anything (16:25:18) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) dont get me wrong (16:25:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) see question one. (16:25:30) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i really do give a fuck if someone's having a bad day. (16:25:46) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) have you seen any logs?? (16:25:50) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) have you taken the time to research whats going on? (16:25:52) (ViciousPotato) I have, (16:25:57) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) o good. (16:26:03) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) then let me show you something: (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Now talking on #boxtorrents (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Topic for #boxtorrents is: | WWW: Up : Forums: Up : Tracker: Up | No !list/@find/xdcc list Don't Abuse BxT | For Boxtorrent related questions join #box-support, otherwise enjoy the chatter! :) | (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Topic for #boxtorrents set by BxT at Wed Jun 6 01:50:59 2007 (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i dont bm for ibm (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) well (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) the traditional one is too long (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i'd take a bm for an IMB (16:26:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) seems like a damn good trade (16:26:23) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * You are now known as IscreamUscreamWeAllscream4Iscr (16:26:23) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) see? (16:26:25) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * You are now known as ibmubmweallbmforibm (16:26:26) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * services.deltaanime.net sets mode +r ibmubmweallbmforibm (16:26:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) >hostserv< on (16:26:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) -HostServ- Your vhost of i.scream.you.scream.weallscream.for.icecream is now activated. (16:26:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but if oyu look at the vhost (16:26:31) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) :D (16:27:19) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now at that point i went to one of my other myriad networks and went back around and about my day. (16:27:19) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but have you ever considered why delta allows so many characters in a nick? (16:27:19) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) its for freedom of choice. (16:27:26) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) and as i recall it as long as the nick itself isnt abusive then its nbd. (16:27:52) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now there's no way to call this particular nick offensive say racially / sexually / etc (16:27:58) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) sure its not the shortest in the book (16:28:18) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but its on the other hand certainly not the longest nick i have across my various groups on various networks. (16:28:49) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) and i can tell you from experience that its not acceptable to ask someone to change their nick just because it pushes your identd in a bit. (16:29:13) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) shoot im using xchat and my nick covers half of one of the seconds on my screen lol (16:29:21) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now. (16:29:25) (ViciousPotato) Nor is it acceptable to talk to channel ops; or network staff with an attitude. (16:29:40) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) actually its quite acceptable to be a normal person (16:29:50) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but let me get you the unabridged logs in question (16:30:17) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Now talking on #deltaanime (16:30:17) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Topic for #deltaanime is: Welcome to #deltaanime! Have a channel/network issue? #support | webchat - http://chat.deltaanime.net | ? commands for a list of commands in here | We need a new database server! - ? mysql | Happy day of the Tool! (16:30:17) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Topic for #deltaanime set by Talleh at Thu May 24 19:13:18 2007 (16:30:17) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) -Navi- [#deltaanime] Welcome to #deltaanime , the official chat channel of the Deltaanime IRC Network! Please enjoy your stay and abide by the rules by typing ? rules . This is not a support channel! For support requests, please see #support . Please also note that this is not :a Lineage 2/ Ragnarok based channel, simply a general chat channel (16:30:17) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Navi sets channel limit to 149 (16:30:19) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * seravitae (~seb@daIRC-82D8C69F.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #deltaanime (16:30:20) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Navi sets channel limit to 150 (16:30:21) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * nicemguy (~tinkerbel@62CA1990.5E512A50.516E3C72.IP) has joined #deltaanime (16:30:23) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) hi all (16:30:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * Navi sets channel limit to 151 (16:30:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) hello (16:30:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) hi (16:30:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) asl (16:30:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) um (16:30:30) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) no (16:30:31) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) thats weird (16:30:31) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 19/m/nj (16:30:32) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * You are now known as IscreamUscreamWeAllscream4Iscr (16:30:34) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * You are now known as ibmubmweallbmforibm (16:30:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) ibmubmweallbmforibm: feel like making the nick smaller please? (16:30:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) this is as good as it gets (16:30:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) smaller please. (16:30:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) thats why i have this one its smaller (16:30:40) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) the other one doesnt work (16:30:41) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) ^^ (16:30:48) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) * ibmubmweallbmforibm goes back off (16:30:56) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) again here i left for my other network again (16:31:00) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now notice. (16:31:05) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i wasnt rude about it at all (16:31:07) (ViciousPotato) I have logs of this. (16:31:10) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i merely refused a request. (16:31:14) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) and thats all it is sir (16:31:15) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) a request (16:31:25) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) if my nick was unacceptable delta would have told me (16:31:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) or perhaps barmonk (16:31:28) • ibmubmweallbmforibm shrugs (16:31:34) (ViciousPotato) Or perhaps Talleh. (16:31:35) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but neither have a problem with it (16:31:40) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) sir. (16:31:42) (ViciousPotato) She, afterall, is network staff. (16:31:46) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) ooo (16:31:50) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so she is an oper now. (16:31:56) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) mind pasting your CoC ? (16:32:00) (ViciousPotato) Yes. (16:32:05) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) haha (16:32:07) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) w/e (16:32:22) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) obviously all your gonna do is threaten and then either do or dont line me (16:32:37) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) ive pasted my convo to date to delta lol (16:32:56) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) not this particular one yet as i actually had hope that you were able to act properly. (16:32:58) • ibmubmweallbmforibm sighs (16:33:04) (ViciousPotato) Obviously I'd threaten you. It's not really... a threaten, though. More of a warning. (16:33:11) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so unless you have something else? (16:33:21) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) no ViciousPotato not obviously. (16:33:25) • ibmubmweallbmforibm sighs again (16:33:41) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) the correct way to respond is to tell the person not to heckle the staff (16:33:49) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) and then to immediately ask them wth is going on (16:34:05) (ViciousPotato) That's not what we've been 'taught'. (16:34:35) (ViciousPotato) I pm'd you because Talleh was complaining about your attitude. (16:34:47) (ViciousPotato) I had logs of the conversation between you two. (16:34:53) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) good (16:34:55) (ViciousPotato) I found you did have an attitude. (16:34:57) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) i pasted that to delta too (16:34:59) (ViciousPotato) So, I pm'd you. (16:35:00) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) oh i did (16:35:01) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) but remember (16:35:28) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) thats only after she wronged ME (16:35:28) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) not the other way around (16:35:32) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) which is why i started by asking a few questions so as to determine if talking to you was a waste of time. (16:35:36) (ViciousPotato) Wronged you? (16:35:42) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) absolutely (16:35:53) (ViciousPotato) What does that mean. (16:35:55) (ViciousPotato) It's not a word. (16:36:38) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) yes it is (16:37:04) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wronged (16:37:10) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) now then. (16:37:41) (ViciousPotato) In what way did she 'wrong' you (16:37:46) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) if your done with the epenis lesson, the reason i continued to talk to you even though it was obvious that youve no intention of helping (16:38:23) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) is because since you do reply back its possible to actually converse, which can lead to a changing opinion lol (16:38:26) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) so then (16:38:29) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) lets review (16:38:45) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) how many characters are allowed in a nick? (16:38:58) (ViciousPotato) I have no idea off the top of my head. (16:39:05) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) 30. (16:39:06) (ViciousPotato) This, however, has nothing to do with why I'm talking to you. (16:39:09) • ibmubmweallbmforibm points up (16:39:13) (ViciousPotato) The reason I'm talking to you (16:39:15) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) no this has everything to do with it. (16:39:18) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) yes (16:39:27) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) the reason your talking to me is directly related to that. (16:39:27) (ViciousPotato) Is drop the attitude with Talleh and stop trolling or you'll be removed from the network. (16:39:29) (ViciousPotato) Have a nice day. (16:39:34) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) you asked how i was wronged (16:39:36) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) o gawd (16:39:39) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) what ever (16:39:45) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) either your an oper or not (16:39:50) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) either way no reason to respect you (16:39:51) (ibmubmweallbmforibm) lol (16:39:56) -AdminServ- ibmubmweallbmforibm (~ibm@i.scream.you.scream.weallscream.for.icecream) (16:39:57) -AdminServ- ircname : ibm (16:39:57) -AdminServ- ibmubmweallbmforibm is using modes +iwx (16:39:57) -AdminServ- ibmubmweallbmforibm is connecting from *@75.80.8.88 75.80.8.88 (16:39:57) -AdminServ- channels : #boxtorrents #datorrents (16:39:57) -AdminServ- register : ibmubmweallbmforibm - is a registered nick (16:39:57) -AdminServ- server : irc.pacifica.dairc.us The lethal poison of the world, Pacifica (16:39:57) -AdminServ- signon : Jun 08 04:05:41 2007 EDT (16:39:57) -AdminServ- End of WHOIS command (16:41:34) (ViciousPotato) In that case. (16:41:39) (ViciousPotato) Please note, you are banned for 3 days. (16:41:42) -AdminServ- *@75.80.8.88 added to the AKILL list.