kk, orc so after all this, I decided to go back to sstar.com, my original isp before I made the nitemarish switch to AT&T. The switch should take place tomorrow at the latest. I am then going back to godaddy and make the changes after I am back online. Then I want to notify you to get rid of my zone files. I do want to do my own DNS for my own experience and learning thang. I am sorry for all this as I feel badly for causing you all this confusion etc of course, I am still looking forward to being able to do stuff for you as you have taken care of me so much thx John Rose