ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ 300.2007.720p.BluRay.x264.PROPER-hV ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ Format : x265 Source : GrainRay Genre : Action / Drama / History / War Resolution : 1280x528 Video Bitrate: 9115 kbit/s Audio : AC3 640 kbit/s English Subtitles : English Release : 07.23.07 Rars : 86x100mb imdb : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/ ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ Based on Frank Miller's graphic novel about the Battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ Notes: We're sure you will all wonder why after Shooter we are propering a smaller size with a larger one. Ok, here goes: 1. Visual quality is highly subjective: but the bitrate on the SEPTiC release is too low. Again, we have produced our quants from our encoding. The QP figure is not trivial. A figure in the range between 20 and 30 should give satisfactory results in most cases but is dependant on the movie itself - scene changes/textures/dark areas/grain high action/ etc etc. Using a QP lower than 15 is overkill. Using a quantizer higher than 40 will result in unwatchable video, so we need an acceptable level in between but also considering the demands made on the encode as referenced above. Most encoders agree that no difference is seen once we end up <~20 but that >~25 is generally undesireable in most instances. We can surmise the following before encoding: a) The movie is rather long b) It contains many actions scenes c) The source is *intentionally* very grainy. Choosing the proper average bitrate setting for a "Two Pass" encode is also not trivial! That's because the bitrate required for satisfactory results highly depends on the "compressibility" of the video as well as on personal preferences. So in achieving a good QP and proper bitrate there are lots of factors to consider and some movies even long ones (eg shooter) come from a superb source and lend themselves to little challenge on compressibility and produce good QP figure at low bitrate. Hence the proper with a smaller movie. On the other hand, 300 for the reasons given above does not encourage a DVD5 encode if it is encoded with a proper bitrate to ensure good compressibility and hence good QP figure. Albeit it will encode faster. We therefore ran two encodes (which explains our delay in releasing this PROPER!) to see what each produced and decide the best way forward - DVD5 x1.5: x264 [info]: slice I:1638 Avg QP:20.06 size:104069 x264 [info]: slice P:73275 Avg QP:22.67 size: 54593 x264 [info]: slice B:92738 Avg QP:24.00 size: 24858 DVD9: x264 [info]: slice I:1633 Avg QP:18.56 size:115393 x264 [info]: slice P:72163 Avg QP:20.99 size: 64946 x264 [info]: slice B:93855 Avg QP:22.44 size: 32916 So what is the difference between ours and SEPTiC? Unsurprisingly, the compression is not particularly great at DVD5 x 1.5 but the DVD9 produces an ideal encode. The SEPTiC figures can only be worse than those produced on the DVD5 x1.5 and would not be regarded as acceptable notwithstanding you probably think their video video looks okay. However, if you dont believe/understand all the techno mumbo-jumbo then we have included a folder called "comparison" which contains an almost same frame screenshot from SEPTiC vs ours. The difference is obvious (whilst you can view them with the .jpg extension plz rename them to .png before viewing. They were intentionally renamed to .jpg to avoid script issues). The difference on Shooter was we could achieve the same on a much lower bitrate mkay. Also, check out the samples of both releases, we have made sure ours is from the same section. 2. SEPTiC audio is transcoded 640 kbit/s DD+ to 640 kbit/s AC3 - which does not not sound as glorious as it should. This is because the HDDVD was used as source. Dynamic compression is not SEPTiCs fault but we did a direct demux of the audio from the BluRay so its crisp as it should be. Not itself a reason to proper but a point worth raising in addition to the video issue. Ultimately, the rules say you should not proper when a movie "could" have had a higher bitrate. This movie "should" have had a higher bitrate not "could" have, the figures speak for themselves as do the samples and the screenshot comparison. Enjoy the better PQ and audio. ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ Greetz fly out to FoV, CTU, DNA, PROGRESS and SATAN, our unholy master ! ÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛÛ