lsproc, you gotta admit that that is cool :p (LinuxBIOS) AlexExtreme, yeah, but since its one of the FSFs braindead moronic fucked up ideas im not having it :P * AlexExtreme points out that the FSF didn't invent LinuxBIOS AlexExtreme, they endorse it LinuxBIOS was made by the OpenBIOS developers lsproc, they also endorse linux and gnu... and they say "oh yeah, you should use this as it makes you free" NO IT DAMN WELL DOESNT mmiikkee12, i dont use GNU and i'm assuming you know openbios i use Linux TYVM yes lsproc, linux coreutils and several other things are gnu mmiikkee12, and? mmiikkee12, i dont use GNU << so you don't use coreutils? mmiikkee12, i do not use the gnu operating system i use the linux operating system GNU failed, look at the Hurd lsproc, linux is the kernel, gnu is the system nobody calls it the GNU OS they call it linux lsproc, except debian (gnu/linux...) (which is insane imo, but they have a point) the end user doesnt care about gnu they dont even know what it is they know Linux though lsproc, well don't say you don't use gnu when you're using gnu :) mmiikkee12, actually, the disto I am using identifies itself as Ubuntu Linux it doesn't matter what people call it... if everyone called a computer a bag of meow mix, would you be using a bag of meow mix? not Ubuntu GNU/Linux lsproc, well it still has gnu software in it and i can rewrite it if i want until you do that, it's still gnu oh well GNU is still retarded they force themselves down your neck AlexExtreme, maybe so :) the end user doesnt give a s*** in Free as in Freedom they care about Free as in Beer hmm, cool lsproc, *most* end users... some of us don't drink :P mmiikkee12, its a figure of speech the nVidia chipset i have on my mobo is the only supported nvidia chipset for linuxbios :p and i do like being able to patch source whenever i want mmiikkee12, we are referring to end user as a general computer user who doesnt program, just surfs the web, browses emails and writes a letter lsproc, end user is a user of the computer... what you're referring to is what's called a "normal user" :) mmiikkee12, no, you are a programmer therefore not an end user lsproc, i use the computer, i'm an end user (of linux)