--- Log opened Tue Jul 31 22:33:55 2007
22:34 @OldMonk> test
22:34 @OldMonk> wokeh, it works
22:34 @BigBeard> test works
22:34 @BigBeard> what was the test?
22:35 @OldMonk> make sure log file contains lines from this channel and no other
22:35 @BigBeard> kewl
22:37 @OldMonk> devdas wants his company to sponsor
22:37 @OldMonk> needs formal letter
22:37 @BigBeard> what is his company?
22:37 @OldMonk> idirect?  something like that
22:37 @BigBeard> well if we can ever finalise the letter, we'll send him one
22:37 @BigBeard> directi
22:37 @BigBeard> kewl
22:37 @OldMonk> i'm hoping we can finalise it tonight, in this meeting
22:38 @BigBeard> if anyone ever shows up
22:38 @BigBeard> we need andrew sir to decide a few things
22:38 @BigBeard> I suggested that instead of sponsor banners
22:38 + gora_ [n=gora@122.163.101.67] joined #freed.in
22:38 @BigBeard> we go for backdrops
22:38  gora_> Sorry. Power glitches.
22:38 @BigBeard> left, right and back
22:38 @OldMonk> yeah, saw that, that makes sense.  andrew has to give ok on that too though
22:38 @BigBeard> in each hall
22:39  gora_> OldMonk: Yeah, was trying to get hold of Andrew this morning/afternoon.
22:39  gora_> Will try again tomorrow
22:39  gora_> Maybe he can improve his batting average,
22:39 @BigBeard> it does the least damage
22:40  gora_> By the way, what shall we do with all the money, if all the sponsors come through?
22:40 @BigBeard> heh
22:40 @OldMonk> can we finalise the sponsor letter now?
22:40 @BigBeard> freed.in fellowship program
22:40 @OldMonk> geez, who's going to administer that?
22:40  gora_> I believe that he had said that banners inside the halls could be arranged.
22:40 @BigBeard> more money for next event
22:40  gora_> OldMonk: Sure.
22:41  gora_> OldMonk: Make the freed.in fellowship program run in parallel to the Sarai one, a la RGF. Then, I'll administer it.
22:41  gora_> One sec. Let me dig up the sponsor letter
22:41 @BigBeard> we can work something out
22:41 @BigBeard> or we can blow it all in manali
22:42 @OldMonk> shall we remove the invite-only from the channel?
22:42 @BigBeard> I thought you did
22:42 @OldMonk> if valsa or someone wants to come they won't know how to enter
22:42 @BigBeard> but why has someone else tried to join
22:42 ~ OldMonk set -i on #freed.in
22:42 @OldMonk> done
22:43 @OldMonk> IIRC the line we'd chosen was ``pre-eminent foo bar...''.  is that correct?
22:44 @BigBeard> well that is what Rajesh wanted to use
22:44  gora_> BigBeard: Link to the sponsorship document? I seem to have lost it.
22:44 @BigBeard> we shot it down
22:44 @BigBeard> http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Freed/SponsorLetter
22:44 @BigBeard> so we changed it to "leading"
22:45 @BigBeard> we can change it back
22:45 @OldMonk> er, i mean, ``premier''
22:45 @OldMonk> which would be better, premier or leading?
22:46  gora_> "Leading", I think.
22:46  gora_> Or, "one of the premier".
22:46 @BigBeard> then lets leave it as leading
22:46  gora_> Essentially, weasel words to avoid comparisons to foss.in
22:46 = gora [n=gora@122.163.101.191] quit (Success)
22:47 @BigBeard> gora bounces again
22:47 @OldMonk> nah, that was old 1997 model gora
22:47  gora_> BigBeard: No. I have a tail now.
22:47  gora_> Actually, let me log out, and log back in to get "gora"
22:47 @BigBeard> ah so one leaves and one hangs around
22:47 = gora_ [n=gora@122.163.101.67] quit ("Ex-Chat")
22:48 @OldMonk> for one thing we aren't really the pre-eminent or leading event, we are premier though, at least in the minds of the community
22:48 @BigBeard> and the tail goes too
22:48 + gora [n=gora@122.163.101.67] joined #freed.in
22:48  gora> Much better
22:48 ~ OldMonk set +o gora on #freed.in
22:48 @BigBeard> we are the leading event in north india ;-)
22:49 @OldMonk> do we say north india?
22:49 @OldMonk> and if it's north india, we should just say ``only'' event ;)
22:49 @BigBeard> heh
22:49 @gora> BigBeard: "Our state fair is the best state fair!/The best state fair.../In our state!"
22:49 @BigBeard> yeah pretty much
22:50 @OldMonk> everyone ok with leading?
22:50 @BigBeard> between the 3 of us
22:50 @gora> Yeah, let us just go with it.
22:51 @OldMonk> er, no -- the whole present committee unanimously agreed on leading event
22:51 @gora> My god, the whole email exchange was starting to remind me of Sarai.
22:51 @OldMonk> next, how about LL's suggested changed?
22:51 @BigBeard> almost as bad
22:51 @OldMonk> changes
22:52 @gora> OldMonk: Haven't read them yet.
22:52 @gora> Can we do one thing.
22:52 @gora> I will read it tonight, and we finalise online tomorrow night. I will talk to Andrew also.
22:52 @OldMonk> nononono!
22:52 @gora> Or, I will be at Nehru Place, and can stop by Munirka.
22:53 @BigBeard> hey! sponsor letter needs to go
22:53 @gora> OldMonk: Want to do it now?
22:53 @OldMonk> this is a weird situation, where sponsors are begging us for a letter, and WE are delaying the whole thing!
22:53 @OldMonk> c'mon, the man wants to give you money, help him out!
22:53 @gora> OldMonk: OK. Give me some time to read it.
22:53 @BigBeard> i know
22:53 @gora> OldMonk: Where is LL's version? In email?
22:53 @OldMonk> gora: y
22:57 @BigBeard> rajesh having trouble
22:59 @gora> OldMonk: In your redacted version, we do not do a good enough job of telling the sponsor what benefit *they* will get.
23:00 @BigBeard> gora, want the full doc
23:00 @BigBeard> 7 pages
23:00 @gora> Something like visibility to so many people, goodwill in the free software community, chance to be involved at the start of a remake of ILUG-D events.
23:00 @gora> BigBeard: Oh? The one on the Wiki has 4 pages.
23:00 @OldMonk> i'm going with the wiki one too
23:00 @BigBeard> yeah I know thats the cut down version
23:01 @BigBeard> thats the cleaned out edition
23:01 @BigBeard> 7 pager was overkill
23:01 @gora> BigBeard: Well, at least a paragraph, or half page on what benefit the sponsor gets.
23:01 @OldMonk> BigBeard: i feel we need to move those 2 conditions out of the sponsorship benefits section :)
23:02 @OldMonk> move all conditions to the end in fine print or something
23:02 @BigBeard> please move stuff as needed
23:02 @gora> Right now it reads like we are doing this great event, and you should support it just because we feel that it is great.
23:02 @BigBeard> there is a whole sponsor benefit section
23:02 @BigBeard> banners, press, websites...
23:03 @OldMonk> umm, my typing is all shot to pieces, i'm not editing it right now, until i'be had at least 8 hours of sleep
23:03 @gora> BigBeard: How about making the Sponsorship Benefits section only about benefits, and then a separate section about sponsorship levels.
23:03 @BigBeard> sure
23:03 @BigBeard> my probem is I have stared too long and too hard at this document
23:03 @gora> BigBeard: Besides what they get in terms of X number of banners, etc., we need to tell them more about intangible benefits.
23:03 @gora> BigBeard: Heh.
23:04 @BigBeard> and need somebody else to make the changes
23:04 @gora> Is Niyam's version very different?
23:04 @OldMonk> gora: there are 2 attachments, look at the one with the later timestamp
23:04 @OldMonk> that has both mine and niyam's changes
23:05 @gora> OldMonk: Oh, OK. That is the one that I was looking at.
23:05 @gora> Should I make some changes, and upload a third version tonight?
23:05 @BigBeard> current one has all changes
23:06 @gora> Besides, we need Andrew's go-ahead to finalise X number of banners, etc.
23:06 @gora> BigBeard: No, I meant the ones we are talking about now: Separate section for Sponsorship Benefits, etc.
23:06 @BigBeard> make those too
23:08 @gora> BigBeard: Should I do it now, or after we are done here.
23:08 @BigBeard> well, if we can list all the changes, then best you do them later
23:08 @gora> We cannot finalise it tonight anyway, without Andrew Tendulkar.
23:08 @BigBeard> check with andrew on the missing items
23:08 @BigBeard> and freeze
23:09 @OldMonk> let's just leave blanks for the numbers of banners and finalise the rest
23:09 @gora> OldMonk: OK. Hang on. Let me spend 15-20 min. on the changes till now.
23:11 @BigBeard> will you upload the changed file
23:14 @BigBeard> in the meantime, our OCS has only 6 talks registered so far
23:14 @BigBeard> we need to kick butts for those whom we know are coming for sure and get them to fill out talks
23:15 @OldMonk> nope, 2 from DVB today
23:15 @OldMonk> i prodded him a bit IIRC
23:16 @BigBeard> prod others too
23:16 @BigBeard> cray3
23:16 @BigBeard> penginhead
23:16 @BigBeard> gopalv
23:16 @OldMonk> cray3 is ready
23:16 @BigBeard> but not yet registered
23:17 @OldMonk> she has to make a proposal out and she's not been well
23:17 @BigBeard> spoke to krishnan V trying to get Nokia to send someone with an N800
23:17 @OldMonk> tried to catch ramasubramanian, but no response from him yet
23:17 + beersingh [n=tirveni@220.224.115.120] joined #freed.in
23:17 ~ OldMonk set +o beersingh on #freed.in
23:18 @BigBeard> pastebin log for beersingh to read