Jun 01 15:35:07 <eisen_>	with ivman everything seems fine now.
Jun 01 15:35:15 <richiefrich>	ivman?
Jun 01 15:35:23 <richiefrich>	do i need that ?
Jun 01 15:36:05 <eisen_>	some other mount daemon. I kinda lost track of the specifics. It's a bit like setting up mail.
Jun 01 15:36:24 <richiefrich>	ooh no not like mail
Jun 01 15:36:28 <eisen_>	there is hald, dbus, pmount, ivman.
Jun 01 15:36:37 <richiefrich>	i know pmount
Jun 01 15:36:50 <eisen_>	pmount is just a script afaik.
Jun 01 15:37:10 <richiefrich>	yes i think so too
Jun 01 15:37:43 <richiefrich>	well i have pmount
Jun 01 15:37:44 <eisen_>	ivman mounts when a hal event is caught by hald.
Jun 01 15:37:54 <richiefrich>	not ivman
Jun 01 15:37:58 <eisen_>	what dbus is for I don't know.
Jun 01 15:38:13 <eisen_>	ivman uses pmount to mount.
Jun 01 15:38:14 <richiefrich>	i think dbus blows, no one knows
Jun 01 15:39:01 <richiefrich>	so i need ivman ?
Jun 01 15:39:21 <eisen_>	In any case, I just did emerge ivman, rc-update add ivman default
Jun 01 15:39:30 *	richiefrich is thinking --> another app
Jun 01 15:39:33 <eisen_>	and removed all cdrom entries from fstab.
Jun 01 15:39:42 <richiefrich>	and remove them really
Jun 01 15:39:51 <richiefrich>	ill try it 
Jun 01 15:39:56 <eisen_>	yeah, well commented them out.
Jun 01 15:40:30 <eisen_>	it was bitching when I left them in there.
Jun 01 15:40:55 <richiefrich>	well it emerged quik enough
Jun 01 15:41:17 <richiefrich>	 * Adding user 'ivman' to your system ...
Jun 01 15:41:26 <richiefrich>	did u do that ^^
Jun 01 15:41:40 <eisen_>	ah, and you have to add yourself to the plugdev group.
Jun 01 15:41:45 <eisen_>	I forgot that one.
Jun 01 15:41:49 <richiefrich>	lol
Jun 01 15:42:14 <richiefrich>	added 
Jun 01 15:42:23 <richiefrich>	now i must logout and crap
Jun 01 15:43:10 <eisen_>	richiefrich: the ivman user is added by the ebuild
Jun 01 15:43:10 <NeddySeagoon>	richiefrich, Being unemplyed is hard work ... its a full time job
Jun 01 15:43:10 <Rescue9|FireDept>	LOL
Jun 01 15:43:10 <Rescue9|FireDept>	whatever
Jun 01 15:43:12 <Rescue9|FireDept>	richiefrich is a slacker!
Jun 01 15:43:25 <Rescue9|FireDept>	See
Jun 01 15:43:39 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon i know it's hard here
Jun 01 15:43:39 <eisen_>	just start the daemons.
Jun 01 15:43:45 <richiefrich>	Rescue9|FireDept whats that mean
Jun 01 15:43:55 <eisen_>	I did not reboot.
Jun 01 15:43:57 <richiefrich>	Rescue9|FireDept im a slacker?
Jun 01 15:44:01 <Rescue9|FireDept>	yup
Jun 01 15:44:04 <Rescue9|FireDept>	:-P
Jun 01 15:44:06 <Rescue9|FireDept>	:-D
Jun 01 15:44:09 <NeddySeagoon>	richiefrich, My wife has a list of Jobs ... and I've not started yet
Jun 01 15:44:11 <Rescue9|FireDept>	>:) Nothin but love mate.
Jun 01 15:44:20 <Rescue9|FireDept>	see... NeddySeagoon is a slacker too
Jun 01 15:44:22 <richiefrich>	eisen_ no but i must logout and login to get the groups to take affect
Jun 01 15:44:32 <richiefrich>	Rescue9|FireDept i know im a slacker
Jun 01 15:44:43 <richiefrich>	Rescue9|FireDept i enjoy it way to much
Jun 01 15:44:50 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon lol
Jun 01 15:46:01 <richiefrich>	eisen_  it didnt mount shit
Jun 01 15:46:21 <richiefrich>	eisen_ maybe i cant in e
Jun 01 15:46:27 <Rescue9|FireDept>	It's not supposed to mount shit. Its supposed to mount drives
Jun 01 15:46:42 <richiefrich>	didnt do thta either
Jun 01 15:46:46 <eisen_>	it works perfectly here.
Jun 01 15:46:56 <richiefrich>	eisen_ well idk
Jun 01 15:47:08 <richiefrich>	eisen_ do this  /exec -o groups
Jun 01 15:47:15 <NeddySeagoon>	Rescue9|FireDept, Its my first day unemployed
Jun 01 15:47:39 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon how old are u sir ?
Jun 01 15:47:41 <eisen_>	ttty lp wheel audio cdrom video games users cdrecording vmware
Jun 01 15:47:51 <NeddySeagoon>	richiefrich, I'm 52
Jun 01 15:47:57 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon really
Jun 01 15:48:12 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon i thought u were like me in your 30's
Jun 01 15:48:24 <richiefrich>	wheel cron audio cdrom video games cdrw usb users portage vmware
Jun 01 15:48:36 <NeddySeagoon>	richiefrich, yes I've been playing with computers since 1963.  My son is in his 30s
Jun 01 15:48:44 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon ahh
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Jun 01 15:49:26 <eisen_>	oh, wrong shell: tty lp wheel audio cdrom video games users cdrecording vmware plugdev
Jun 01 15:49:37 <richiefrich>	eisen_ thats why 
Jun 01 15:49:47 <richiefrich>	im not in the plugdev
Jun 01 15:49:47 <eisen_>	that was an old one.
Jun 01 15:49:56 <richiefrich>	brb i must restart X
Jun 01 15:50:01 <eisen_>	is something in dmesg?
Jun 01 15:50:14 <richiefrich>	let me look 
Jun 01 15:50:38 <eisen_>	it mounts to /media/foo
Jun 01 15:50:52 <Rescue9|FireDept>	NeddySeagoon: I'm sorry to hear that man!
Jun 01 15:51:07 <Rescue9|FireDept>	NeddySeagoon: you retire, or get laid off?
Jun 01 15:51:30 <richiefrich>	eisen_  UDF-fs INFO UDF 0.9.8.1 (2004/29/09) Mounting volume 'New', timestamp 2005/04/16 00:10 (1f10)
Jun 01 15:51:53 <eisen_>	richiefrich: so it's mounted then.
Jun 01 15:52:01 <richiefrich>	to where ?
Jun 01 15:52:30 <richiefrich>	it is i cant see it with the user
Jun 01 15:52:39 <richiefrich>	dethwish@ gentoo ~ $ l /media/cdrecorder/
Jun 01 15:52:39 <richiefrich>	ls: /media/cdrecorder/: Permission denied
Jun 01 15:52:47 <richiefrich>	root@ gentoo ~ # l /media/cdrecorder/
Jun 01 15:52:47 <richiefrich>	total 4.0K
Jun 01 15:52:47 <richiefrich>	dr-xr-x--- 2   40 Apr 15  2005 AUDIO_TS/
Jun 01 15:52:47 <richiefrich>	dr-xr-x--- 2 1.5K Apr 15  2005 VIDEO_TS/
Jun 01 15:52:48 <richiefrich>	^^^
Jun 01 15:52:54 <richiefrich>	why??
Jun 01 15:52:54 <eisen_>	there it is.
Jun 01 15:53:03 <richiefrich>	but why not with the user ?
Jun 01 15:53:13 <eisen_>	did you restart e?
Jun 01 15:53:20 <richiefrich>	no 
Jun 01 15:53:23 <richiefrich>	i must i think 
Jun 01 15:54:03 <eisen_>	I don't know how to change the permissions of the mount point.
Jun 01 15:54:30 <richiefrich>	it mounts fine
Jun 01 15:54:43 <richiefrich>	but i need to be in that group i think 
Jun 01 15:54:48 <richiefrich>	plugdev
Jun 01 15:54:49 <eisen_>	you should also be able to just eject, and it unmounts.
Jun 01 15:54:56 <Rescue9|FireDept>	bbl
Jun 01 15:54:59 <richiefrich>	it does yes
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Jun 01 15:55:02 <richiefrich>	Rescue9|FireDept l8r
Jun 01 15:55:16 <NeddySeagoon>	Rescue9|FireDept, I got laid off ... I can't afford to retire yet
Jun 01 15:55:20 <richiefrich>	ok let me restart X
Jun 01 15:55:30 <richiefrich>	NeddySeagoon your a little late on that 
Jun 01 15:55:36 <richiefrich>	brb
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Jun 01 15:57:03 <richiefrich>	ok back 
Jun 01 15:57:27 <richiefrich>	wheel cron audio cdrom video games cdrw usb users portage plugdev vmware
Jun 01 15:57:31 <richiefrich>	better 
Jun 01 15:57:50 <richiefrich>	now i can see it 
Jun 01 15:58:25 <richiefrich>	eisen_ sweet
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Jun 01 15:59:36 <eisen_>	the one feature I actually liked about windows ;-)
Jun 01 15:59:57 <richiefrich>	is what 
Jun 01 16:00:02 <richiefrich>	automount ?
Jun 01 16:00:08 <eisen_>	yeah.
Jun 01 16:00:17 <richiefrich>	well now we have it 
Jun 01 16:00:29 <richiefrich>	i must look on changing the dir
Jun 01 16:01:27 <eisen_>	You should be able to keep your fstab entries. But it would bitch with those here. I think then it should be mounted where it is in fstab.
Jun 01 16:01:56 <richiefrich>	/etc/pmount.allow
Jun 01 16:02:00 <richiefrich>	whats that aboujt 
Jun 01 16:02:01 <eisen_>	maybe you have to change ownership of the mount points to ivman:plugdev. I haven't tried that.
Jun 01 16:02:28 <eisen_>	I haven't seen it before.
Jun 01 16:02:36 <eisen_>	it's empty.
Jun 01 16:02:50 <richiefrich>	i know but if i put mount points in there
Jun 01 16:02:55 <richiefrich>	i wounder 
Jun 01 16:03:09 <eisen_>	I will try with fstab again...
Jun 01 16:03:10 <richiefrich>	there's no configs for anything else
Jun 01 16:05:44 <eisen_>	there is /etc/ivman
Jun 01 16:05:50 <eisen_>	some files there.
Jun 01 16:08:12 <richiefrich>	i didnt think they were much cause the xml format 
Jun 01 16:08:21 <richiefrich>	when did they start that ?
Jun 01 16:08:46 <eisen_>	it works with the fstab entry, after chown ivman:plugdev /mnt/dvd
Jun 01 16:09:03 <richiefrich>	so chmod to what 
Jun 01 16:09:04 <eisen_>	now it mounts where it did before - automatically
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Jun 01 16:09:12 <richiefrich>	777 ? 755 
Jun 01 16:09:15 <eisen_>	chown
Jun 01 16:09:20 <richiefrich>	chmod a+x ?
Jun 01 16:09:23 <richiefrich>	chown
Jun 01 16:09:34 <eisen_>	chown ivman:plugdev