**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 19 17:29:01 2007 Jul 19 17:29:01 <_JSR_> hey winter Jul 19 17:29:07 <_JSR_> the same happened to me with stonecypher Jul 19 17:29:14 <_JSR_> look at what happen with smileydude Jul 19 17:31:36 <_JSR_> hey man , just watch ! Jul 19 18:15:07 * _JSR_ has quit (Quit: Quitte) Jul 20 23:09:46 * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 21 07:31:29 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 23 18:51:25 2007 Jul 23 18:51:25 <_JSR_> back Jul 23 18:52:02 heh, so I see Jul 23 18:52:14 [18:48] the purpose of an op is to control the channel and enforce the rules Jul 23 18:52:14 [18:48] some people object to that control being exercised because it somehow interferes with their freedom Jul 23 18:52:14 [18:49] some of those people then keep coming back to channel and loudly proclaiming their rights to steal other people's work Jul 23 18:52:14 [18:50] we then exercise our right to remove them from channel and so it repeats Jul 23 18:53:43 <_JSR_> it's true, but you know that the theory Jul 23 18:53:55 <_JSR_> and practical is always different than theory Jul 23 18:54:15 <_JSR_> the arguments that sc participates in tend to lead to aggravated discussions Jul 23 18:54:56 well look at this discussion going on now Jul 23 18:55:44 there's a bit of a rampant refusal to actually make sense going on on the other side of that Jul 23 18:56:18 I've been involved in similar discussions before & had the argument get incredibly heated Jul 23 18:56:33 does that make *me* a bad person? Jul 23 18:56:45 does that make *me* unworthy to be a channel op? Jul 23 18:57:00 <_JSR_> let me say this, (it's hard for me to be understood as english is not at all my monther tongue) Jul 23 18:57:24 <_JSR_> when you are on channel, you read what everybody says (not all the time) Jul 23 18:57:39 <_JSR_> you agree silentely to some people Jul 23 18:57:42 <_JSR_> you react Jul 23 18:57:46 <_JSR_> you disagree Jul 23 18:57:47 <_JSR_> ... Jul 23 18:58:30 <_JSR_> there is somekind a base Jul 23 18:58:45 <_JSR_> when you talk with a person on channel because you have in mind Jul 23 18:58:50 <_JSR_> some of the discussion he had Jul 23 18:59:29 <_JSR_> if someone quickly heat a discussion Jul 23 18:59:49 <_JSR_> he could be because of his caracter, but if a lot go this way Jul 23 19:00:15 <_JSR_> it's because they do not already *apreciate* the person Jul 23 19:01:25 <_JSR_> SC answer to dev question but he also give his feelings about it Jul 23 19:01:27 <_JSR_> all the time Jul 23 19:01:52 <_JSR_> so you must have an idea about him Jul 23 19:02:23 I've known him for a long time Jul 23 19:02:57 I'm really not sure why we're having this discussion Jul 23 19:03:09 <_JSR_> and i'm sure it irritate most people the way that SC argue/answer Jul 23 19:03:20 would we still be having it if you hadn't been kicked and hanging around with people who hate SC? Jul 23 19:03:51 <_JSR_> it's a good point but no Jul 23 19:04:06 that's a big mistake - you're projecting your own emotions on other people Jul 23 19:04:07 <_JSR_> the 2nd time i talked with him Jul 23 19:04:27 <_JSR_> i told him i was going to eat a sandwhich Jul 23 19:04:38 <_JSR_> he asked me what type Jul 23 19:04:45 we have about 200 regulars in channel, usually about 70 or so at once Jul 23 19:04:48 <_JSR_> i said with meat and stuff Jul 23 19:05:08 <_JSR_> then during 5mn he told me the right way to make it myself Jul 23 19:05:16 lol Jul 23 19:05:23 he's a total food freak Jul 23 19:05:25 <_JSR_> i was like, wtf is this guy Jul 23 19:05:31 he does that all the time Jul 23 19:06:12 <_JSR_> i think this situation would apply but in a bad way in argueing Jul 23 19:06:18 don't take it personally - he just loves his food and telling other people how to make the "best" sandwiches Jul 23 19:07:15 <_JSR_> i think he is a smart guy, soemtimes he help a lot on hard question Jul 23 19:07:26 <_JSR_> but his way of answering is kinda rude to everybody Jul 23 19:07:55 it's not as rude as you think it is Jul 23 19:08:21 <_JSR_> in real life, we all know a guy who act a lot ruder than everybody but he is not whole bad, it's just himself Jul 23 19:08:38 <_JSR_> that's my point of view Jul 23 19:08:59 <_JSR_> we would put a guy like that this in top of an organisation Jul 23 19:09:03 <_JSR_> we would not Jul 23 19:09:16 <_JSR_> because he could make problems Jul 23 19:09:34 <_JSR_> that'sthe way i see it Jul 23 19:13:03 <_JSR_> have to eat, bon appetit Jul 23 20:06:04 * _JSR_ has quit (Quit: Quitte) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 24 20:11:24 2007