[20:40] I booted this brand new server with CentOS5, it got to Gnome. The package manager poped up saying there were important updates, I let it run. [20:40] Reboot, I get those messages and it won't boot. [20:40] ouch [20:40] any thoughts other than ouch? [20:41] have you tried installing without the updates? [20:41] If it's brand new and you haven't done anything other than the updates.. just go back and start over [20:41] so i should never update it? [20:41] this time take a look and see what updates it's trying to do [20:42] bad updates do make it into repos sometimes [20:42] why would it allow bad updates [20:42] I lost X due to an update once... the bad package was only in the repo for about 6 hours but I happened to update at just the wrong time [20:43] the problem is, i dont even have a copy of centos, i'm gonna have to downlaod the ISO [20:43] fucking piece of crap [20:44] i tried installing fedc 5 with all the languages once, one of the languages was faulty and fucked it up [20:44] how did you do the 1st install? [20:44] had to reinstall without it [20:44] it came with it [20:44] and fix the language after [20:44] reinfuckingstall it and then find out what the problem is [20:44] heh [20:44] im wondering if i should put centos back on [20:44] i mean this is a golden first experience [20:44] maybe you should just use windows [20:45] is there's a lot of community using centos? [20:45] JesusResearch, maybe you should stfu [20:45] blow me [20:46] I came here for help, if I wanted to talk to a pubescent teenager, I would go downstairs to the junior devs department. [20:46] try the reinstall to find out what packages want updating [20:46] then come back with more information [20:46] i am not a cyberpsychic, i cannot read your computer from the other side of the globe [20:47] * r0s (~r0s@85.94.4.112) has joined #linux [20:47] how did you expect any more help without providing more information? [20:48] i can now commiserate with the first people who tried to help me [20:48] Hi mens! [20:49] Åñòü êòî â PHP øàðèò? [20:49] Hi RuneB [20:49] * SaiDawi (SaiDawi@hc-helper.sakaba.org) Quit (Quit: null.) [20:49] because I don't know much about linux, it's not my job, and it's definitely not what I want to be doing, but I took a contract on the side and it came with a fresh server rather than one that's already setup as usual [20:49] r0s [20:49] anou eoi a PHP oaoeo? [20:49] but if you want help, you need to provide more information [20:50] try a reinstall... centos doesnt take long [20:50] Yanki go home! [20:50] I don't have the ISO [20:50] that's the annoying ass part [20:50] Russian vodka! [20:50] i need to download it [20:50] but this time get all the information about the packages [20:50] dont you have it on dvd? [20:50] no [20:50] it came pre-installed on the server [20:50] what version cent0s? [20:50] 5.0 - quantum_ is ~q@modemcable080.42-203-24.mc.videotron.ca * Quantum quantum_ on #prolog @#sql #linux @#Java quantum_ using punch.va.us.dal.net Experience comes from bad judgement. quantum_ has identified for this nick quantum_ End of /WHOIS list. - [20:51] what country? [20:51] downloading 4 gigs is gonna take a while [20:51] Canad [20:51] Canada* [20:51] do you get linuxmagazine or linuxformat (magazines) in canada? [20:51] tcnm ,kznm [20:51] * r0s (~r0s@85.94.4.112) has left #linux [20:52] System specs are: Intel CPU Pentium-D 935 3.2 GHZ FSB800mhz 2mbx2 lga775 dual [20:52] if that make sa difference [20:52] yeah, because you might be able to get it all from a livedvd [20:52] no i dont get those magazines [20:52] no, the problem was in the packages yes? [20:52] right [20:52] maybe in the download? [20:52] since it comes pre-install and it's still brand new, i think u may call the vendor to have assistance on it [20:52] but it was centos 5.0 x64 installed [20:52] rather than i386, is that correct? [20:53] x64 is for 64-bit pc [20:53] it doesn't say anywhere on the specs if that system is 64 bit [20:53] but im assuming since they put it on, it must have been [20:53] uname -a [20:53] the system is dead [20:53] cant get to shel [20:53] since it comes pre-install and it's still brand new, i think u may call the vendor to have assistance on it ...? [20:54] yah [20:54] fuck the warranty, try a fresh install [20:54] or maybe u can try to download the iso and try fresh install [20:54] ;) [20:55] if im gonna do that, i probably wont go with centos [20:55] choose the one which has a lot of community & great support [20:56] so if u get into trouble, u are able to engage them [20:56] ubuntu, fedora, pclinux [20:56] os [20:56] distro [20:57] most of the servers i've worked on were FC2-FC6 [20:57] great [20:59] oh fuck yes, someone say something, i want to find out if my *@*!*.* ignore is working [20:59] start downloading fedora-7 iso now [20:59] crap - JesusResearch is ~jsk@202.61.215.14 * shas JesusResearch on #linux +#altern8 JesusResearch using swiftco.wa.us.dal.net www.swiftco.net - Swift Communications JesusResearch has been idle 20secs, signed on Thu Aug 30 19:27:45 JesusResearch End of /WHOIS list. - [20:59] http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/x86_64/iso/ [20:59] the file is 90 megs? lol [21:00] download the dvd iso [21:00] maybe im in the wrong place [21:00] * xterm (xterm@212.28.240.110) has joined #linux [21:01] there's someone on the net selling the dvds [21:01] i sell the dvd's [21:01] all of the mirrors noly go up to FC6 [21:01] i guess thats what im gonna get [21:02] 15USD a dvd, 20USD postage [21:03] i'll sell you Fedora [21:03] <@iddqd> quantum_: try booting without 'quiet' in your kernel command line, maybe this will give you more details [21:03] Fedora 7 [21:03] quantum_, because there is no core on fedora 7 [21:03] quantum_, you're in the wrong spot [21:04] http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7/i386/ [21:04] tons of 7 mirrors [21:04] ftp://fedora.mirror.iweb.ca/releases/7/Fedora/x86_64/iso/F-7-x86_64-DVD.iso [21:04] found it [21:04] why all the same mirrors as for 6 [21:04] you guys are ruining my retirement package [21:04] quantum_, you can also just d/l the small cd and network install if you are brave [21:04] http://ftp.univie.ac.at/systems/linux/fedora/releases/7/Fedora/i386/iso/ [21:04] is that the rescued-iso? [21:06] rescued iso? i think the purpose is just to get your system booted [21:06] Cancel, how do you do the network install? [21:06] * Albatorsk (~per@h182n5-m-hy-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Quit: Goldman) [21:07] Actually what I should ask is where do I find the ISO for the network install cd. [21:07] u need to specify the installer path on the network [21:07] * Sunny[zZz] is now known as Sunny [21:07] * Melbogia (~kash@moltencore.cas.okstate.edu) has joined #linux [21:07] quantum_, you follow the instructions on the fedora site ;) [21:07] quantum_, you pick network during the install then give it the location of the network mirror [21:07] done [21:07] at 1st place you need to ensure your netw. card is alive [21:08] the network install takes care of that [21:08] yah but I need the software to do the network install [21:08] it turns up the card for ya, how nice of it [21:08] right now all i can download is a 2.7 gig iso [21:08] quantum_, you're in the wrong place again [21:08] so just finish your iso [21:08] it's not someone is going to install for you from the network [21:09] www.fedora.com is a blind link for spyware crap lol [21:09] Cancel, it says recommended for advanced users only, I don't fall in that category. [21:10] Cancel, are u saying that he get the wrong iso? [21:11] switch, if meant to say that I would have [21:11] I don't mince words [21:11] * Cancel slaps switch with an iso [21:12] ;) [21:12] quantum_, yes it is not for the timid anyone who can/should do it doesn't need to ask [21:13] * KeyLimePirate (~rob@69.16.222.93) has joined #linux [21:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +o KeyLimePirate - Cancel is ~cancel@162.134.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net * Cancel Cancel on +#christiandebate #asp.net #Java #linux #python #C# @#windows-network-admin Cancel using punch.va.us.dal.net Experience comes from bad judgement. Cancel has identified for this nick Cancel End of /WHOIS list. - [21:14] quick look busy its KeyLimePirate [21:15] <@simmy> KeyLimePirate: PING! [21:15] well its only 8 megs, im gonna try it while the dvd ISO downloads [21:15] i got nothing to lose anyways, the server wont boot right now [21:16] <@simmy> Man... I HATE this... [21:17] <@simmy> I've got this wireless card that has no indications of what rev, etc it is. SOME versions are known to work with *nix. Some aren't. Depends on the chipset. [21:17] <@simmy> But this company took like 6 different chipsets (only some work) and bundled them all up under the same brandname. [21:18] Do you guys know of a site where I could find contract linux sysadmins? [21:18] (ie by geographical location) [21:18] <@simmy> monster, geekfinder, dice... um.... [21:19] i looked on monster [21:19] * zelda (~sanezelda@60.54.35.52) has joined #linux [21:20] <@simmy> KeyLimePirate: DOUBLE-PING, MUTHA FSCKA! [21:24] * ep|phany (~amit@124.125.226.161) has joined #linux [21:25] Cancel, for FTP site name and Fedora directory, is there one you recommend that's faster? [21:25] quantum_, look at the page I posted you it list all the speeds [21:25] generallyi speaking the faster the better [21:26] I don't see a url [21:26] just torrent it [21:26] * Q-1 (~robingazi@202.22.193.23) has joined #linux [21:26] the torrent wasn't any quicker for me [21:26] im tlaking about the network install [21:26] its asking me for ftp site name and fedora directory, is that the /os directory? [21:26] quantum_, again I gave you the url that has speeds posted [21:27] quantum_, and remember what I said anyone who should be networking installing doesn't have to ask [21:27] so if you need someone to be helping you with network install ya probably shouldn't be network installing [21:27] Or they could have made a simple documentation page [21:28] the fedora site is so bad [21:28] * switch o.O [21:28] quantum, is your problem solved yet? [21:28] you type network install in the search box on their site and you get no relevant results /golfclap [21:29] * GuAliChO (~ElGualo@virtual-mortification.de) Quit (Client closed connection) [21:30] is your system unrecoverable? [21:30] Cancel, I've looked at everything you said, you never gave me a url [21:30] it has been 53 minutes since you posed your problem, in this time you could have reinstalled it without the updates, taking care to find out every piece of information offered about them, and told us. your problem might be solved by now [21:31] JesusResearch, I don't have the fucking dvd, if I did, it would be installing right now. [21:31] download the ISO and leave ur system, once downloaded, burn it & install [21:31] is that so hard [21:32] well i did give him a handy piece of advice that he might need [21:32] [22:14:50] maybe you should just use windows [21:32] switch I am, but Cancel suggested network install, so I'm trying that while the ISO downloads [21:32] JesusResearch, yah and I'm gonna pass on a $55,000 contract. [21:33] I'm just going to hire someone to setup this server, then I'm going to deploy the webapps on it and that's it that's all. [21:33] <@KeyLimePirate> Me! Me! I'll do it! NOT [21:33] i think u should have one live cd spared for your linux system [21:33] any live cd wil do [21:33] quantum_, I guess this is not a url http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/7/i386/ [21:33] for troubleshooting [21:34] Cancel, and I asked you, when it says fedora directory, is that the /os? [21:34] I googled it and found no relevant information, so I asked. [21:34] switch, i don't want to be dealing with this though, the servers normally come to me all setup [21:34] this is a first [21:35] so there goes my suggestion [21:35] I appreciate it [21:35] JesusResearch, btw, that mentality is great. Keep people away from Linux, way to support your community. [21:35] for network install, you have to get your netw. card alive [21:36] I can't say I've ever googled for a fedora repo [21:36] switch, already done that [21:36] I just use the fedora site [21:36] I'm at the point where its asking me for the fedora directory [21:36] some people should stay away from linux [21:36] I have no problem keeping some people away [21:36] but that's all it says [21:36] * Tushar (error629@nerd.of.ircjunkie.info) has joined #linux [21:36] * thrasher194 (~thrasher1@cpe-065-191-083-145.nc.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout) [21:36] quantum_, and remember what I said anyone who should be networking installing doesn't have to ask [21:36] so if you need someone to be helping you with network install ya probably shouldn't be network installing [21:36] not kidding there [21:36] * GuAliChO (~ElGualo@u15253643.onlinehome-server.com) has joined #linux [21:37] how u get your system booted to network install? [21:37] followed the steps [21:37] <@p3nguin> Why not use the CD/DVD installation methods? [21:37] just get one Fedora URL [21:37] p3nguin, im donwloading the iso [21:37] Cancel, is it so hard to tell me if it is the /os directory? [21:38] <@p3nguin> CD/DVD installations go much quicker. [21:38] p3nguin, not when you're 1% done of downloading 2.7gigs [21:38] I was hoping to have this done today and getting my cheque, but now I have to wait for this POS server [21:39] <@p3nguin> Well, what I said still holds true. [21:39] * Strykar (wakka@59.95.5.213) Quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:39] <@p3nguin> The installation goes quicker than ftp installation. [21:39] <@p3nguin> always will [21:39] http://bash.org/?374746 [21:39] Cancel, I was right all along, it was /os [21:39] shit wrong window [21:39] a simple 'yes' would have saved me 15 minutes [21:40] <@p3nguin> quantum_: He didn't know. [21:40] p3nguin, according to him, he's done it plenty of times before [21:40] To install from a network, using NFS, FTP, or HTTP, proceed to Section 6.3, “Installation TCP/IP Configuration”. [21:40] quantum_, I'm not here to save you any amount of minutes [21:40] quantum_, and since it took you so long you will surely remember next time [21:40] Cancel, no, you would rather keep your egocentric elitist attitude. [21:40] Cancel, no, you would rather keep your egocentric elitist attitude. [21:41] thanks thats sweet flattery [21:41] you made me elite [21:41] <@p3nguin> quantum_: That's fine. I've installed FreeBSD more than a dozen times over ftp but I can't tell you each detail of the procedure upon request. [21:41] I'm just going to wait for the ISO to download. [21:41] quantum_, and remember what I said anyone who should be networking installing doesn't have to ask [21:41] so if you need someone to be helping you with network install ya probably shouldn't be network installing [21:41] Retrieving images/stage2.img... has been sitting on the screen for 5 minutes lol [21:41] funny [21:41] quantum_ section 6.3 tells everything [21:42] some folks can't read manuals [21:42] I guess the first time Cancel did a network install he just instinctively knew [21:42] klb, pretty much [21:42] i used to be RTFM [21:43] I had about 7 browser windows opened, looking at the fedora wiki, a few guides and the crappy fedora site [21:43] <@p3nguin> Dude, get some tabs for your browser. [21:43] did u choose full install? [21:43] switch, I'm gonna wait for the ISO to download [21:43] this network install is too slow [21:43] it's still sitting on retrieving images/stage2.img... [21:43] yeah u said, while u are going to try network install while downloading the iso [21:44] I also love pressing the power button and having nothing happen lol [21:45] The network install is too slow for the connection I have here. [21:45] u are sharing the connection between network install & downloading iso [21:46] i'm sharing the connection with the other 5,000 employees that work here lol [21:46] great for them, also [21:46] fuck if i care [21:47] im bringing my contract work to my work because it pays more [21:48] * Read^o_o^Only (~~@125.160.63.127) has joined #linux [21:49] * Read^o_o^Only (~~@125.160.63.127) has left #linux (Leaving) [21:50] * JesusResearch (~jsk@202.61.215.14) Quit (Quit: )