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\n Sep 21 09:56:27 Maxdamantus   Hmm.. Is it possible to make a GRUB boot CD, and make that check a menu.lst on a different device (HD)?
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\n Sep 21 10:33:49 wibbit        Good morning all
\n Sep 21 10:33:51 wibbit        Any one up?
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\n Sep 21 12:29:54 enouf Maxdamantus: if you boot into the grub
shell, and issue
 a "find /boot/grub/menu.lst" it should kick back all available, if they
exist
 there and grub is installed properly
\n Sep 21 12:30:12 Maxdamantus   "Installed properly"?
\n Sep 21 12:30:43 enouf Maxdamantus: grub doesn't know anything
about File
 Systems so if located in an obscure place, it wont find it
\n Sep 21 12:30:54 Maxdamantus   I just want it to load the
menu.lst from a
 specific HD.
\n Sep 21 12:31:02 Maxdamantus   I can't get the BIOS to boot from
the HD.
\n Sep 21 12:31:14 Maxdamantus   This machine will boot that HD..
\n Sep 21 12:31:21 Maxdamantus   And that machine will boot this
machine's HD.
\n Sep 21 12:31:26 enouf Maxdamantus: you could make teh Boot CD
with your
 menu.lst files (IINM)
\n Sep 21 12:31:29 Maxdamantus   But that machine won't boot that
machine's HD.
\n Sep 21 12:31:45 Maxdamantus   I was using a fd for a few months,
but that's
 buggered now.
\n Sep 21 12:31:56 Maxdamantus   enouf, but then I can't edit them.
\n Sep 21 12:32:12 Maxdamantus   Since it needs to be a finalised
CD-R to boot.
\n Sep 21 12:32:14 enouf
 <a href="http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html#SEC11"
target=_blank
>http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html#SEC11</a>
\n Sep 21 12:34:11 Maxdamantus   enouf, that doesn't say how to
make it
 automatically load menu.lst from a different device.
\n Sep 21 12:34:30 enouf ofcourse it doesn't
\n Sep 21 12:36:10 enouf Maxdamantus: i have no idea what that
whole "this
 machine, that machine" is about, and would rather not know - yuo should
reinstall
 grun to each "machine's" MBR on it's HDD that has Linux
\n Sep 21 12:36:35 enouf s/grun/grub
\n Sep 21 12:36:44 Maxdamantus   I have two machines.. One is old,
and I use it
 as a server for multiple things.
\n Sep 21 12:36:54 Maxdamantus   And that won't boot from it's own
HD.
\n Sep 21 12:37:02 enouf that doesn't make sense
\n Sep 21 12:37:14 Maxdamantus   I've tried installing GRUB and
LILO.
\n Sep 21 12:37:19 Maxdamantus   And it just won't boot from the
HD.
\n Sep 21 12:37:30 Maxdamantus   If I put that HD into this
machine, it'll boot
 fine.
\n Sep 21 12:37:34 Maxdamantus   But it won't work on that.
\n Sep 21 12:37:43 enouf that mean you only installed grub onto the
non-server
 CompB's MBR and never into the server's compA MBR
\n Sep 21 12:37:51 Maxdamantus   And if I take the HD from this
machine, and put
 it in that machine, it'll boot Ubuntu too.
\n Sep 21 12:38:07 Maxdamantus   Well, until it finds out that the
devices
 specified in fstab don't exist.
\n Sep 21 12:38:11 *       enouf smacks forehead violent;y
\n Sep 21 12:38:30 enouf against the desk
\n Sep 21 12:38:44 Maxdamantus   Non-server CompB's MBR?
\n Sep 21 12:38:51 Maxdamantus   It's installed in the MBR, believe
me.
\n Sep 21 12:39:00 enouf two == a + b
\n Sep 21 12:39:15 Maxdamantus   If I take out all HDs out of this
computer, and
 put in the HD from the other computer, it'll boot the Gentoo install..
\n Sep 21 12:39:29 Maxdamantus   Well, it'll boot GRUB.
\n Sep 21 12:39:33 Maxdamantus   Which will then boot Gentoo.
\n Sep 21 12:39:55 enouf Maxdamantus: you goofed somewhere bit
time, but believe
 me, it'll boot if done correctly
\n Sep 21 12:40:38 Maxdamantus   Well.. I'm fairly certain I've
done it
 correctly.
\n Sep 21 12:40:55 enouf Maxdamantus: your device.map files and
#groot= entry
 needs examination, as well as /etc/fstab and menu.lst for each
\n Sep 21 12:41:11 enouf Maxdamantus: you haven't
\n Sep 21 12:41:30 Maxdamantus   enouf, if it was the device.map,
wouldn't it
 give something more than a GRUB read error?
\n Sep 21 12:41:38 enouf Maxdamantus: you realize all those lines
with only 1 #
 are actually read?
\n Sep 21 12:41:48 Maxdamantus   The BIOS won't even recognise that
there is
 anything to boot.
\n Sep 21 12:41:57 enouf Maxdamantus: you realize all those lines
with 2 # are
 the ones that are not
\n Sep 21 12:42:18 enouf in between the AUTOMAGIC stuff only
\n Sep 21 12:42:29 enouf BEGIN and END
\n Sep 21 12:42:55 *       Maxdamantus boots the Gentoo LiveCD..
\n Sep 21 12:43:30 Maxdamantus   I think these BIOS might be
specifically
 designed for Windows actually.
\n Sep 21 12:43:52 enouf Maxdamantus: Maxdamantus The BIOS
won't even
 recognise that there is anything to boot.     and      
Maxdamantus This machine will
 boot that HD..         and       Maxdamantus And t
hat machine will boot this machine's HD.          ==== Totally
inconsistent
 statements
\n Sep 21 12:43:59 Maxdamantus   Boot sequence has options such as
"A", "C",
 "D", "A only", "C only", "D only"
\n Sep 21 12:46:24 enouf i gotta get some sleep now for a few (even
if i don't
 achieve it, i have to try) .. good luck, and remember to let know, .. i
stay
 logged, will revisit
\n Sep 21 12:50:39 Maxdamantus   Fuck.. Perhaps this is why..
\n Sep 21 12:50:57 Maxdamantus   device.map has "(hd0) /dev/hdc"
\n Sep 21 12:51:06 *       Maxdamantus thinks that should be /dev/hda
\n Sep 21 12:52:17 Maxdamantus   Damn it.. Rebooted before setting
up grub.
\n Sep 21 13:02:46 Maxdamantus   No difference.
\n Sep 21 13:05:46 enouf Maxdamantus: #groot=
\n Sep 21 13:05:58 Maxdamantus    * Now talking on #groot=
\n Sep 21 13:06:08 Maxdamantus   Wait. You didn't mean a channel
did you?
\n Sep 21 13:06:25 enouf in menu.lst
\n Sep 21 13:06:35 Maxdamantus   Oh.
\n Sep 21 13:06:53 Maxdamantus   Unfortunately, I accidentally left
it to auto
 load.. Which boots the GUI by default.
\n Sep 21 13:06:57 Maxdamantus   Lemme reboot it again.
\n Sep 21 13:07:18 enouf you really should learn the grub shell
\n Sep 21 13:07:39 enouf (not that i'm an expert, but i can get
around)
\n Sep 21 13:07:41 Maxdamantus   I know the basics of the grub
shell.. Well,
 enough to make a simple installation.
\n Sep 21 13:07:46 enouf no
\n Sep 21 13:07:56 enouf well enough to fix things from there
\n Sep 21 13:08:03 enouf and test from there
\n Sep 21 13:08:14 Maxdamantus   I can't get to a fucking grub
shell.
\n Sep 21 13:08:26 Maxdamantus   I need to use the one on the
Gentoo LiveCD.
\n Sep 21 13:08:30 enouf ROFL == how did it boot to the Desktop, if
it doesnt
 Boot?
\n Sep 21 13:08:38 Maxdamantus   enouf, it's the LiveCD.
\n Sep 21 13:08:39 enouf what?
\n Sep 21 13:08:43 enouf no no no no on
\n Sep 21 13:08:44 Maxdamantus   And it doesn't use GRUB there.
\n Sep 21 13:08:46 enouf OMG
\n Sep 21 13:09:05 *       enouf shoots Maxdamantus 
\n Sep 21 13:09:24 Maxdamantus   Zomg, why'd you do that?
\n Sep 21 13:09:50 enouf Maxdamantus I can't get to a
fucking grub shell. --
 WHAT THE FUCK is THAT!
\n Sep 21 13:10:08 Maxdamantus   Well. Not natively.
\n Sep 21 13:10:16 Maxdamantus   Only under Gentoo.. The "grub"
command.
\n Sep 21 13:10:27 enouf if you can boot the HDD, you certainly can
get to the
 shell ..lol
\n Sep 21 13:10:35 Maxdamantus   I can't boot the HDD.
\n Sep 21 13:10:39 Maxdamantus   ...
\n Sep 21 13:10:40 enouf OMG
\n Sep 21 13:10:49 Maxdamantus   That's what this whole thing is
about.
\n Sep 21 13:10:50 *       enouf shoots Maxdamantus again
\n Sep 21 13:10:57 enouf no it isn;t
\n Sep 21 13:10:58 Maxdamantus   The BIOS won't boot anything from
this specific
 HD.
\n Sep 21 13:11:06 enouf Bullshit
\n Sep 21 13:11:39 Maxdamantus   Well. The only thing I've known
for it to boot
 directly off the HD, as instructed by the MBR is the NTLDR.
\n Sep 21 13:11:48 Maxdamantus   Because it had XP on it before.
\n Sep 21 13:12:05 Maxdamantus   But I used a floppy disk with GRUB
on it to
 boot for a few months.
\n Sep 21 13:12:15 Maxdamantus   But now the FD drive is broken.
\n Sep 21 13:14:52 Maxdamantus   So.. I'm in a grub shell now..
What do you
 suggest I do?
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\n Sep 21 13:20:27 MelkorD       Hell[o]
\n Sep 21 13:20:30 MelkorD       nyu: Ping ?
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\n Sep 21 16:37:36 tgnb  hey all i am multibooting a machine with
windows XP,
 windows vista and gentoo linux and i am having trouble whenever i
reboot vista
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