charles_ I don't know persept ok so after i have whatever installed, then what charles_ I've tried to avoid cygwin, since it requires middleware and makes the app bigger/slower persept ok charles_ okay, so after mingw/msys/msysDTK... charles_ get an SVN transmission snapshot either by installing SVN, or by getting it on another machine and moving a tarball over persept um ok, so i need the MinGW Runtime, and where is the msys, i can't find it on the download site charles_ msys: charles_ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2435&package_id=82721&release_id=158803 charles_ msysDTK: charles_ http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mingw/msysDTK-1.0.1.exe?modtime=1041379200&big_mirror=1 persept ok cool charles_ the default choices are fine for all three installes persept and with mingw, i need the binutils, winapi, mingw runtime and gcc, but the only thing i can't find is the gcc package on the site charles_ ^ installers persept wait, there's a mingw installer? charles_ yeah, let me get the URL persept no wonder i was having problems.... charles_ mingw: charles_ http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=2435&use_mirror=superb-west&filename=MinGW-5.1.3.exe&62989964 charles_ anyway, you install the three mingw tools in this order: mingw, msys, msysDTK charles_ once you've installed those three, you'll have a thin Unix-like shell to work in. You start it by clicking on the ugly blue "M" msys icon on the desktop :) persept ok cool >>then unzip the latest transmission binary http://download.m0k.org/transmission/files/transmission-0.82.tar.gz to :\msys\1.0\home\$username, whatever your username is >>then cd into your directory (Transmission) and then do ./autogen.sh >>once that is done you can do ./configure >>then if all is good do make >>i forget what make install does on windows though >>it should make a working transmission-cli.exe that can be run in the command prompt and the M shell