08:07 <@chris> by the time you spend enough time on linux to actually make it somewhat secure
08:07 <@chris> you might as well have just used a better os
08:07 <@sheppard> lol
08:08 <@sheppard> secure from remote attacks or local bullshit
08:08 <@chris> both
08:08 <@sheppard> lol
08:08 <@sheppard> sure if your installing RH5
08:08 <@chris> linux is a joke when it comes to security
08:08 <@chris> nah
08:08 <@chris> even the good distros
08:08 <@chris> have embarrasing vulnerabilities
08:09 <@chris> and people think that keeping packages up to date == security
08:09 <@sheppard> sure if you run all the software
08:09 <@chris> zomg i emerge and apt-get upgrade daily
08:09 <@chris> im secure
08:09 <@sheppard> i have a linux machine, it hosts my lvm and runs samba
08:09 <@sheppard> i feel that it is secure.
08:09 <@chris> lol
08:09 <@chris> k
08:10 <@sheppard> well
08:10 <@chris> thats the problem with open sores
08:10 <@sheppard> untill someone does init=/bin/bash
08:10 <@chris> theres so many misconceptions
08:10 <@chris> both from idiots
08:10 <@chris> and intelligent people
08:10 <@chris> that very few people actually know the truth
08:11 <@sheppard> that nothing is truly secure?
08:11 <@chris> nah
08:11 <@chris> dont start that shit
08:11 <@chris> if i wanted fairytale theory bullshit
08:11 <@chris> id go read slashdot
08:11 <@chris> and jack off to articles about ipod killers
08:11 <@chris> and net neutrality
08:11 <@chris> and diebold voting machines